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Pochettino: The Beginning of the End

At the start of the summer I was filled with hope for Spurs. Hope we’d get some quality signings made early. Hope we’d agree new deals with key men such as Eriksen and Toby, rather than lose them. Hope we’d put last seasons struggles - masked by our crazy run to the CL final - behind us, and start 19/20 reenergised after preseason and revitalised by fresh faces. That hope has all but faded.

Paul Merson claimed this week that we were already out of the title race. On paper he’s wrong, of course. In reality, he’s 100% right. If the poor performances but decent results against Villa and City were gentle reminders that all was still not well, then the debacle against Newcastle was the kick in the bollox that hammered it home.

There are other protagonists, but there’s one man at the centre of where we’ve come from the last five years, and potentially where we are going. Poch. I’ve been a huge admirer of his for some time. I wanted him as coach when all were clamouring for LVG. I’ve studied his language, his mannerisms, his coaching, managerial and tactical techniques. After 3 fantastic seasons where he whittled dead wood and coached good players into excellent ones we finished 2nd in 16/17 and said goodbye to WHL undefeated. That day was the pinnacle of Poch’s reign in my opinion, not the CL semi. That’s because there was one united emotion for all of us under the rainbow that day as we waved farewell to the past and looked forward to our bright future: hope.

Since that day the optimism around the club has slowly but surely ebbed away. The stadium is sensational, but the delays were tiresome. Wembley was a drag. We’ve ranged from poor to inactive in the transfer market, while existing players have allowed contracts to run down. Our league form has inevitably tailed off as other clubs outspend us and key players get older. After briefly being legit title contenders, we are back to sitting as one of a cluster of clubs fighting over the scraps of 3rd and 4th.

This isn’t a criticism of Poch. I maintain he’s done an excellent job in the face of some very tough circumstances. Keeping us up there with no home, no investment, and the squad problems of last season is a credit to him. But last season was the problem. It was a dirge, am utterly joyless slog that sucked the lifeblood out of fans, players and managers alike - rescued only by the euphoria of the last few weeks CL action. And we’re still suffering the hangover. Poch for his part looks jaded to me. Negative in his interviews, looking for excuses. His team selections have erred on the bizarre. His behaviour with the press has grown increasingly ambiguous and churlish. It started when he made little effort to distance himself from the Utd job after Jose’s sacking, and continued with his talk of quitting in the lead up to the CL final. The Poch of 2017 would’ve handled things differently.

The huge mental, physical and emotional effort of pushing this club forward these last five years cannot be underestimated. You could see it in his outpouring of emotion after Mouras winner in Holland, and his immediate thought seemed to be ‘this could be my get-out’. I suspect he’s suffering from burn out on some level. Add to that the frustration that the workings of the club are within such tight parameters. It’s 3 windows since his ‘we have to be brave’ comments, and if we sell Eriksen we will still have not spent a penny, net, on players since.

My hope is that new players settle, others contracts get resolved one way or the other quickly, and we regain our zest and start performing well. My hope is that Poch can win a trophy at Spurs as he more than any manager in my lifetime deserves it, and I - like many of us - have an affection for him that I’ve never had for a manager of ours. My fear is, that - to quote John Lennon - the dream is over. When a once positive man starts appearing negative and talking in riddles, the writing is usually on the wall. When seemingly obvious tactics get bypassed, when key players want out, when form that was once so consistent falls apart. It pains me to say it, but I feel we are witnessing the beginning of the end of the Poch era at Spurs. His last season is underway almost certainly - a battering in the NLD and the end could arrive sooner than any of us anticipated. That match coming earlier than usual could be foreboding. The end of the Euro window and the inerrnational break will be a crucial time for us. We will know where we are when they are over.

Any Spurs fan rejoicing in the prospect of change should beware. Not only is Poch an excellent coach who’s done an excellent job, but Levy has a largely appalling record in manager recruitment. These are worrying times.

posted on 29/8/19

comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 35 minutes ago
This thread has become hilarious.

Garth facking Crooks over Poch?
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Yeah. I was reading that post and thinking "fair enough, I disagree but he's entitled to his opinion." Then I read "Garth Crooks" and it went from a fair (but wrong) opinion to plain old insanity.

Garth Crooks

Honestly

Garth facking Crooks

comment by Spurtle (U1608)

posted on 29/8/19

comment by Amanda Hugginkiss (U11574)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 35 minutes ago
This thread has become hilarious.

Garth facking Crooks over Poch?
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Yeah. I was reading that post and thinking "fair enough, I disagree but he's entitled to his opinion." Then I read "Garth Crooks" and it went from a fair (but wrong) opinion to plain old insanity.

Garth Crooks

Honestly

Garth facking Crooks
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I had to check that it wasn't one of Barry's aliases that said it.

posted on 29/8/19

Not only does he have precisely zero coaching or management experience but he also has less insight than my facking 15-month old, and he probably sheits his pants more than my boy does too.

posted on 29/8/19

"Over the years I have called most things before they happened."

Faaacking LOL <rolf>

Says we'll win the league (with a bit to spare). When the league is 100% out of reach, he then changes his mind then argues that he's allowed to change his opinion Then call him out on it and he filters you

He makes out he's the messiah, but in reality, he gets everything wrong and is utterly clueless!

posted on 29/8/19

comment by Doovdé™ (U2996)
posted 1 hour, 34 minutes ago

"Over the years I have called most things before they happened."

Faaacking LOL <rolf>

Says we'll win the league (with a bit to spare). When the league is 100% out of reach, he then changes his mind then argues that he's allowed to change his opinion Then call him out on it and he filters you

He makes out he's the messiah, but in reality, he gets everything wrong and is utterly clueless!

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leave Jonty from the Leeds board alone !!

posted on 29/8/19

Cheers Ace, enjoyed reading that. Well written and pretty much is exactly the crossroads we are at.

But in all honesty I think we have to get behind the team and manager as fans. This summer the apple cart appears to have rocked, which usually means we will lose a few bad apples or the manager walks.

Imo keeping Poch is a must. As long as Poch stays to oversee the next phase - as he always puts it, then I’m happy and I think long term we will be fine.

posted on 29/8/19

comment by Ace (U18814)
posted 4 hours, 24 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 21 minutes ago
"All supporters flip flop on a regular basis. Didn't Arsenal fans once praise Wenger, then they wanted him gone. Didn't Fans praise Mourinho, then they wanted him gone. Didn't Ranieri get praised at Leicester, then they wanted him gone. It is the nature of the beast. Not flip flopping, telling it has it is. Poch has taken himself and the club as far is it is ever going to be at Spurs, with no trophy to show for it, time for a change."

Huge difference with this list is they're all winners, or at least were....Poch isn't
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Shut up Sherriff you fat old mug. You know fack all about football and this conversation has nothing to do with you. On your way.
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....this made me chuckle....you are riled because I speak the truth...you and Sandy are two of the biggest mugs on here

comment by Ace (U18814)

posted on 29/8/19

comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Ace (U18814)
posted 4 hours, 24 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 21 minutes ago
"All supporters flip flop on a regular basis. Didn't Arsenal fans once praise Wenger, then they wanted him gone. Didn't Fans praise Mourinho, then they wanted him gone. Didn't Ranieri get praised at Leicester, then they wanted him gone. It is the nature of the beast. Not flip flopping, telling it has it is. Poch has taken himself and the club as far is it is ever going to be at Spurs, with no trophy to show for it, time for a change."

Huge difference with this list is they're all winners, or at least were....Poch isn't
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Shut up Sherriff you fat old mug. You know fack all about football and this conversation has nothing to do with you. On your way.
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....this made me chuckle....you are riled because I speak the truth...you and Sandy are two of the biggest mugs on here
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As if mate - you’re one of the biggest Berkshire Hunts on here, you never write anything insightful, interesting, funny or even vaguely worth reading, just slope around making barbed comments - now shut your dirty mouth and fack off out of it you plank.

posted on 29/8/19

"shut your dirty mouth"

brilliant...

posted on 29/8/19

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