Darmian

you don’t improve by getting rid, you improve by replacing/upgrading.

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Getting rid of Groot automatically improved us.

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Berba - I'd love to see Garner getting a chance as well. I'm just anxious about our lack of experience in some parts of the pitch though. Balancing the squad with quality is Ole's next job IMO.

Python - I'm just speculating on who could be available, and not expensive, in January. Of course I'd want a higher quality player long term but, in the short term, I think the players I listed could make an impact. Even if it is only to help us get over the line in getting a CL place. I doubt very much we'll get top quality in January.
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Yeah but Joe Allen...seriously
He is a 29 yr old currently playing for a team bottom of the Championship.
If our midfielders are no better than him then we may as well pack all their bags and start again.
We have missed the boat, we are likely to get feck all in January unless we manage to pick up some top bargain like Vidic or Evra but with the state of our scouts these days that’s unlikely. The whole club at the moment it is just a bit of a mess. Our next step as a club should be to get someone in who can look at the club and get the right transfers in and get the clown Ed off transfer dealings
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Whinge whinge moan

You support Manchester United, not Bury. Get a grip.
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Hi rdd

Darmian has played 13 times in 20 months.

It’s is a real worry that the club seem to be going into the season being reliant on a bunch of youth kids coming in and offering cover.

I’m all for giving youth a chance but in the right circumstances, and even then how many even make the step up?

Reading this board from some you’d think that Greenwood, Gomes, Garner, Chong and Tuanzebe are all gonna make the grade and be good enough for a team aiming to get top 4. In Ferguson’s entire time at United he only really managed to get around a dozen youth players make the grade, yet some seem to think Ole’s gonna get 3 or 4 of them to do so in one season while the club are in a mess.

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I was going to do a thread about this but will add it here.

Man City had a 5 (ish) year plan with the ultimate goal of bringing in Pep. Most of this was behind the scenes and involved the set up for the club in terms of staff/coaches/facilities etc. Not a lot of people "saw" this but I believe a lot of peps "people" from his barca youth manager days were recruited.

Finally, with all the pieces of the puzzle complete pep was signed and he can in with a "trial" season and then we have what we see now at City.

Now I could be wrong completely here, but I see Oles role as one of clearing the way for a similar idea at utd. Not necessarily as in depth as City's or even with a specific manager in mind but a long term plan to get us back on track.

Since SAFs retirement we have been trying to fix what Moyes undid. We have bought players for quick fixes in certain positions and it hasn't worked and a realisation that it's all broken. A complete overhaul is needed

I for one see positives and am happy to take the stick thrown at us knowing (maybe hoping) that it's a plan for the long term.

Of course there could be harm and it’s a big risk to promote so many youth players while also removing a lot of experience and also expecting to get top 4, there’s always huge pressure at a club like United. You’re incredibly naive if you think this club will happily ignore this season and not expect some sort of result.

For long term results, it’s usually more beneficial to ease in youth, not throw a bunch of them into the first team and expect them to take squad roles so quickly. The sink or swim attitude to youth is a very risky one.

comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
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I was going to do a thread about this but will add it here.

Man City had a 5 (ish) year plan with the ultimate goal of bringing in Pep. Most of this was behind the scenes and involved the set up for the club in terms of staff/coaches/facilities etc. Not a lot of people "saw" this but I believe a lot of peps "people" from his barca youth manager days were recruited.

Finally, with all the pieces of the puzzle complete pep was signed and he can in with a "trial" season and then we have what we see now at City.

Now I could be wrong completely here, but I see Oles role as one of clearing the way for a similar idea at utd. Not necessarily as in depth as City's or even with a specific manager in mind but a long term plan to get us back on track.

Since SAFs retirement we have been trying to fix what Moyes undid. We have bought players for quick fixes in certain positions and it hasn't worked and a realisation that it's all broken. A complete overhaul is needed

I for one see positives and am happy to take the stick thrown at us knowing (maybe hoping) that it's a plan for the long term.


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Problem is I don’t think the club has the faith and know how to follow through with these plans.

So rather than short term pain for long term gain you have short term pain and long term pain.

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