It’s seems as though the fan base is starting to divide when it comes to Ole which I think is a massive shame.
I wont sugarcoat it, the current run of wins is not good enough.
Whilst we have in my opinion, started to address the problems in the defence, we are weaker in the midfield and attack this season.
Herrera has already said that his future was decided before Ole came in as the club/Jose hadnt started negotiating a new contract with him and he was offered big bucks by PSG. He probably would have stayed if we’d offered the money, but as good a player as he was for us, he’s not in that wage bracket of player.
Lukaku scores goals, no denying that. However he seemed to throw the toys out the pram as soon as he had competition for a starting place, he also fell out with players, mainly Pogba. Ole has stated he wanted to bring in a replacement but that it didn’t work out this summer. The notion he was 100% happy with starting the season a striker light is an odd one and I’m not sure even the likes of Robb truly believe it, bar for the wum.
Sanchez just didn’t work for us, getting him out was more about freeing up the space for younger places to seize an opportunity as well as beginning the restructure our wage bill abit. His loan will no doubt be the first step of him moving on.
When it comes to signings, youd have to say they are the right ones and finally seem to be following a plan for the future of the club. I fully expect the midfield and attack to be the next point of call.
I won’t be giving up on Ole until he’s had a fair crack of the whip. I’m also not saying I believe he is the one or he will be a success. Changing managers doesn’t guarantee anything if the same old problems are still at the club. Just look at Jose and LVG.
You are my Solskjaer
Solskjaer
posted on 24/9/19
What has Jose being better than Ole has to do with my point about putting into place a system? Jose didn't do that at all despite being a better manager.
posted on 24/9/19
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 27 seconds ago
What has Jose being better than Ole has to do with my point about putting into place a system? Jose didn't do that at all despite being a better manager.
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Not sure what vague system you are talking about.
Solskjaer is one dimensional so sticks to a "system" but isn't getting results. Jose is pragamatic and took a terrible United side to three trophies.
His biggest failure was taking the huff after his last window in which the board failed to back him enough but he is a top class manager, Ole belongs at Molde.
posted on 24/9/19
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
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comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
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comment by HB Fash (U21935)
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comment by peks..#free el chapo (U6618)
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comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 7 hours, 15 minutes ago
It's relevant because managerial skills are transferable. Like Fergie from the Scottish league to United,
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back in the 80s, top flight scottish football wasnt all that inferior to top flight english football tbh
you cant compare the norwegian league with the premier league in the modern era
the norwegian league is probably on a par with league 2 or the conference on terms of standard
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It had better calibre players than England whilst you thugs were banned from Europe.
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Pretty sure Fergie won a European competition (Cup winners Cup, beating Real Madrid) with Aberdeen. That's a big difference to OGS getting Cardiff relegated and managing in Norway. United's hiring of OGS is on the same level if City had hired Sean Goater to be there next manager... but instead they got a guy who knows what he's doing
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What has Sean Goater's manegrial career been since he retired?
Ole has done something that Jose and Moyes didn't and LVG failed to finish, put in a system. Its been stated its a long rebuild project and yet fans still want instant success.
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Man United don't do long rebuilds... you just spunk tons of money on players and hope they pay off.. sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't but nothing has changed. Ole is puppet manager, he has no track record, doubt anyone really has any respect for him as a manager or a coach... It just is what it is. He seems like a nice guy, was a great player and clearly loves the club.... Those are NOT credentials to manage arguably the biggest club in the world.. as so its proving. You wanna do a Long term rebuild.. Get someone like Poch who knows how you do it. All this nonsense about about club DNA blah, blah, blah it just washes over the fact he's out of his depth.... totally understandable..... Of course he couldn't turn the job down, but should never have been offered it in the first place
posted on 24/9/19
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 27 seconds ago
What has Jose being better than Ole has to do with my point about putting into place a system? Jose didn't do that at all despite being a better manager.
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Not sure what vague system you are talking about.
Solskjaer is one dimensional so sticks to a "system" but isn't getting results. Jose is pragamatic and took a terrible United side to three trophies.
His biggest failure was taking the huff after his last window in which the board failed to back him enough but he is a top class manager, Ole belongs at Molde.
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Jose was spent a lot and bar two signings, the rest failed under him. He also finished 6th in his first season, which was saved by winning the EL. He failed to improve the team despite getting in players he asked for. We already saw a decline in the side at the end of his second season.
So despite being better he left the team in a worse state despite spending more than most.
A system, not just formations or how we play etc. Needs to put into place to maintain improvements.
This is the first transfer window where each signing made looks to be a success (so far). But it has been a good one as we didn't get in any MF nor replaced out going players.
It's still early in the season to ask for a sacking. If it continues, yes, he will have to go, but any replacement has to build and improve on what foundations have been laid.
posted on 24/9/19
Poch has built a good side that won nothing and now is looking at a rebuild. Emery and Poch out were trending on twitter as well. The modern fan is very fickle.
posted on 24/9/19
I don't agree foundations have been laid though.
I think the club is so at sea they don't have a clue how to fix it and Ole is another in a line of taking a punt and hoping it pays off.
I agree he has signed well but the squad is still low on quality, if they backed him and really believed in him to succeed they should have brought in another 3 players this summer to give him a fighting chance.
posted on 24/9/19
Diamond. United don't do rebuilds? I guess you think football stated 20 years ago
. Fergie took five years to rebuild and win a trophy.
posted on 24/9/19
comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
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comment by Diafol Coch 77 - A Reputable Poster (U2462)
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comment by Robb - Steve Smith = Legend 🏏🏆 (U21234)
posted 40 seconds ago
Don’t get too hopeful Diafol..
This is what Ole said after the game last night
“Nemanja is experienced and he does give that protection, as a different type of player to Paul. Nemanja has always been a top top professional and for me having Scott and Nemanja gives us a foundation to play from.’
Exciting stuff 😂
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Hardly inspiring I agree but if we had four in front who are a genuine threat then it could be acceptable (just about). I just hope though that they are just words from the manager. I can't for a minute think Matic fits into the dynamic ethos Ole says he wants.
As for getting an extra body in midfield, and I know some will scoff at this, I think Joe Allen could be a good short term solution in January. He's better than Stoke (with all due respect) and he is tenacious and capable of playing between the lines and keeping the ball moving quickly. The kind of player we could do with in transition.
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Must be a Wum
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Not a WUM. He's not the future (although better than Matic) but he does play in a way that would suit the way I hope Ole is going. That's why I said short term for bodies in midfield. I've watched him plenty for Wales and he usually gets the ball forward pretty quickly and is quicker across the ground than Matic and isn't as rushed as Fred seems to be. Of course I'd want better eventually but he could be a shrewd, experienced signing IMO.
posted on 24/9/19
It almost doesn’t matter who the manager is while Ed is still at the top. His decisions in the transfer market and with contracts has been nothing short of criminal. The signings we’ve made and the contracts we’ve dished out are nonsensical. Mediocre players signed, for huge fees, on astronomical contracts. Not just players. Moyes 6 year contract. Mourinho getting a new bumper contract then not backed in the transfer market. Decisions that beggar belief. All this comes from Ed. This summer was an absolute joke of a transfer window, and none of it was Oles fault. He’s been dealt a poor hand by Ed and hopefully he’ll keep us within touching distance of top 4 when we get to January, where hopefully Ed will stop being a complete cant and get the players we need/Ole wants.
posted on 24/9/19
HB, whether they believe in him or not, the issues go far beyond Ole. Ole has put some foundations down but has been let down by those that deal with the transfers (he wanted those sold to ve replaced and yet none were). It's been an issue at this club for some time and has been touched upon by previous managers.
We've gone in short in attack and Midfield due to incompetence that would still be the issue regardless of who the manager is.
We needed a RB, CB, CM, AM, RW and if Lukaku sold, a CF at the start of the window. That is 6 positions. We've addressed 2 of those for sure. RW is still an issue but not as pressing as out midfield and now attack due to both striker being out right now.