Duckenfield not guilty of manslaughter

comment by ArroinLestah (U22188)
posted 6 hours, 57 minutes ago
comment by Klopptimus Prime - Die Unerträglichen (U1282)
posted 1 hour, 59 minutes ago
How is it not proof? Think about this logically and kick that tiny little brain of yours into gear for a moment, if you had a ticket and you're close enough to the turnstile building to climb over it, why on Earth wouldn't you just go through the turnstile it instead?
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This is a good question. If you start here, you might end up understanding why few share the same opinion as you.

Its not my job to educate you and this is a delicate topic so I'd rather not take up the job of explaining things you clearly don't know yet.

Try and read up and you will see why you wouldn't ask this if you knew anything.
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Fack off you cretin. Even one of your own fans is saying. Keep denying all you want.
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Saying what?

What are you on about now?

comment by ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe (U22182)
posted 2 hours, 35 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 2 hours, 28 minutes ago
Think you're arguing slightly separate things tbh. I thought the inquest found that liverpool fans did not contribute to what happened, not that there weren't any ticketless fans.
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There were many factors to what caused the crush, there is no way all the blame can be pinned in 1 individual

Yes the gate perhaps shouldn’t have been opened, but in the heat of the moment it was a call the police made probably due to the fear of what they thought might happen if they didn’t receive the mass of people all trying to get in to the ground

It turned our to be a fatal call, because one the gate was open, everyone with ticket or not saw the opportunity of getting into the ground - that mass of people all pushing to get in through (as I remember) a narrow tunnel, caused a massive crush on those already in the ground

The ground as the were in those days were cages, so there was no where for all the people to go except forward and cause the havoc which resulted in people dying

Just tragic



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I was clarifying the inquest findings for some on this thread there rather than debating what actually happened.

comment by Klopptimus Prime - Die Unerträglichen (U1282)
posted 1 hour ago
No one is pinning the blame on one individual. Don't know why people are saying that. This was one persons trial, he will be blamed only as far as he should be
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Who else is in the dock then...?

comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Klopptimus Prime - Die Unerträglichen (U1282)
posted 1 hour ago
No one is pinning the blame on one individual. Don't know why people are saying that. This was one persons trial, he will be blamed only as far as he should be
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Who else is in the dock then...?
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That doesn't mean the blame is all on him, does it?

Yes the gate perhaps shouldn’t have been opened, but in the heat of the moment it was a call the police made probably due to the fear of what they thought might happen if they didn’t receive the mass of people all trying to get in to the ground
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How accurate is this? My memory of what I've read on this suggests they had time and warning to act.

comment by Klopptimus Prime - Die Unerträglichen (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Klopptimus Prime - Die Unerträglichen (U1282)
posted 1 hour ago
No one is pinning the blame on one individual. Don't know why people are saying that. This was one persons trial, he will be blamed only as far as he should be
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Who else is in the dock then...?
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That doesn't mean the blame is all on him, does it?
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This was my point...so who else should be accountable

comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Klopptimus Prime - Die Unerträglichen (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Klopptimus Prime - Die Unerträglichen (U1282)
posted 1 hour ago
No one is pinning the blame on one individual. Don't know why people are saying that. This was one persons trial, he will be blamed only as far as he should be
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Who else is in the dock then...?
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That doesn't mean the blame is all on him, does it?
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This was my point...so who else should be accountable
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I'd have to start answering these questions from memory and considering the delicate topic and the risk of saying something that isn't correct then getting jumped on for it, I'd rather not.

In any case, I honestly don't see how anyone who knows enough about the matter would still be asking questions like that.

comment by Klopptimus Prime - Die Unerträglichen (U1282)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Klopptimus Prime - Die Unerträglichen (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Klopptimus Prime - Die Unerträglichen (U1282)
posted 1 hour ago
No one is pinning the blame on one individual. Don't know why people are saying that. This was one persons trial, he will be blamed only as far as he should be
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Who else is in the dock then...?
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That doesn't mean the blame is all on him, does it?
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This was my point...so who else should be accountable
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I'd have to start answering these questions from memory and considering the delicate topic and the risk of saying something that isn't correct then getting jumped on for it, I'd rather not.

In any case, I honestly don't see how anyone who knows enough about the matter would still be asking questions like that.


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Maybe they're not asking...30 years is a long time and they assumed Duckenfield would take the fall

comment by Klopptimus Prime - Die Unerträglichen (U1282)
posted 5 hours, 6 minutes ago
comment by ArroinLestah (U22188)
posted 6 hours, 57 minutes ago
comment by Klopptimus Prime - Die Unerträglichen (U1282)
posted 1 hour, 59 minutes ago
How is it not proof? Think about this logically and kick that tiny little brain of yours into gear for a moment, if you had a ticket and you're close enough to the turnstile building to climb over it, why on Earth wouldn't you just go through the turnstile it instead?
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This is a good question. If you start here, you might end up understanding why few share the same opinion as you.

Its not my job to educate you and this is a delicate topic so I'd rather not take up the job of explaining things you clearly don't know yet.

Try and read up and you will see why you wouldn't ask this if you knew anything.
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Fack off you cretin. Even one of your own fans is saying. Keep denying all you want.
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Saying what?

What are you on about now?
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The revolution is here is saying there were fans there without tickets who contributed to it and that's what I've been saying all along. This is coming from someone who was actually there, a Liverpool fan, yet you still deny it.

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