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Dermot Gallagher

What a clown this bloke is

Believes that Andreas Perreira should have got a red for his trip on Sterling.

Fernandinho does that near enough every week yet not a word said. If anything the only player that should have seen red on Saturday was Kyle Walker for his 2 lunges on Lingard and Young whilst we were breaking away. Both bookable offences

posted on 10/12/19

comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by rosso is done with this (U17054)
posted 1 minute ago
Arriving at the ball late with two feet in and off the ground is completely different kettle of fish to tapping an ankle from behind.

I’ve never, ever seen a remotely serious injury come from the latter. Find me one example in the history of the entire game, please.
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Carragher on Nani when Nani cried. Little clip on the ankle, barely touched him mate.
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If I remember rightly, that was more of the former than the latter

posted on 10/12/19

James Lawton in the Indie on that Carragher “tackle”:

“At the end of a week of refereeing controversy it was that Jamie Carragher was merely given a yellow card for a tackle on Nani so sickening, so dangerous, that it rendered more farcical than ever the insistence of the football authorities that they cannot revisit extreme cases of negligence, irresponsibility or – let's not fail to explore the full range of possibilities in this case – outright failure of nerve by a match official.

“Phil Dowd was close at hand, was surrounded by protesting United players and Liverpool captain Steven Gerrard – who appeared to be suggesting that his team-mate was not guilty of one of the worst fouls to disfigure any ground in recent memory.”

comment by Busby (U19985)

posted on 10/12/19

comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 21 hours, 26 minutes ago
It was a tactical foul which is something Pep has never told the City players to do despite Arteta telling the City players to do it in the Amazon documentary.

To be fair it was a cynical challenge and he should have been a bit more discrete about it. It was a yellow by letter of the law but something like that should be considered as a red in my opinion.
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Agree, it's just a deliberate foul with no intention of going for the ball.

However, how often do we see tactical fouls not even receive a yellow? Hate to seem like a victim but with our pace on the counter teams use it a lot against us.

posted on 10/12/19

comment by rosso is done with this (U17054)
posted 7 hours, 4 minutes ago
Arriving at the ball late with two feet in and off the ground is completely different kettle of fish to tapping an ankle from behind.

I’ve never, ever seen a remotely serious injury come from the latter. Find me one example in the history of the entire game, please.
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How about Son on Gomes. No doubting there's other factors involved, but if Son doesn't go for the sh-thouse take-one-for-the-team ankle tap then Gomes isn't out for the season. It's an cowardly tactic and should be stamped out. In my opinion, you're welcome to yours.

posted on 10/12/19

comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
comment by rosso is done with this (U17054)
posted 7 hours, 4 minutes ago
Arriving at the ball late with two feet in and off the ground is completely different kettle of fish to tapping an ankle from behind.

I’ve never, ever seen a remotely serious injury come from the latter. Find me one example in the history of the entire game, please.
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How about Son on Gomes. No doubting there's other factors involved, but if Son doesn't go for the sh-thouse take-one-for-the-team ankle tap then Gomes isn't out for the season. It's an cowardly tactic and should be stamped out. In my opinion, you're welcome to yours.
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I thought it had been established that Gomes’ injury came from the subsequent clash with Aurier?

Argue it’s cowardly, fine. Argue the rules should be changed to stamp it out, fine.

But it isn’t remotely dangerous, and it isn’t violent conduct by the rules of the game.

posted on 10/12/19

comment by rosso is done with this (U17054)
posted 1 hour ago
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
comment by rosso is done with this (U17054)
posted 7 hours, 4 minutes ago
Arriving at the ball late with two feet in and off the ground is completely different kettle of fish to tapping an ankle from behind.

I’ve never, ever seen a remotely serious injury come from the latter. Find me one example in the history of the entire game, please.
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How about Son on Gomes. No doubting there's other factors involved, but if Son doesn't go for the sh-thouse take-one-for-the-team ankle tap then Gomes isn't out for the season. It's an cowardly tactic and should be stamped out. In my opinion, you're welcome to yours.
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I thought it had been established that Gomes’ injury came from the subsequent clash with Aurier?

Argue it’s cowardly, fine. Argue the rules should be changed to stamp it out, fine.

But it isn’t remotely dangerous, and it isn’t violent conduct by the rules of the game.
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I never said the offence was violent conduct (though I do think a professional foul is Serious Foul Play), and I did state there were other factors involved in the above example.

I get injury in those circumstances is very low risk, but when you asked for an example earlier, the first thing that sprang to mind (but obvs something you wont have seen) was an incident that happened during a school rugby game I was once involved in. One of our wingers made a line break and wasn't going to be caught fairly. One of the oppo had a brainfart and hung out a leg and tripped him as he was going full pelt, and whether it was the unexpected nature of it or whatever, he fell really awkwardly and ended up with a really bad elbow fracture and some lasting shoulder damage. So needless and maybe why this kind of offence winds me up so much

posted on 10/12/19

Ouch. Sounds nasty.

As you’ve said, it’s an unlikely outcome, and surely more so during a game of football, where the arms are free, and on a professional football pitch.

I’m not against a rule change, per se. But I think careful enforcement of the current rules (i.e. dishing out a yellow *every* time it happens) and harsher punishments for the accumulation of yellows over time, something I’ve long thought should be done, would help cut a lot of it out of the game, because more often than not it’s the same players committing these fouls.

posted on 10/12/19

comment by rosso is done with this (U17054)
posted 14 minutes ago
Ouch. Sounds nasty.

As you’ve said, it’s an unlikely outcome, and surely more so during a game of football, where the arms are free, and on a professional football pitch.

I’m not against a rule change, per se. But I think careful enforcement of the current rules (i.e. dishing out a yellow *every* time it happens) and harsher punishments for the accumulation of yellows over time, something I’ve long thought should be done, would help cut a lot of it out of the game, because more often than not it’s the same players committing these fouls.
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There are examples of players being injured due to instances of 'take one for the team' but then that came happen even with a fair challenge. I completely understand the point being made from Champers above. Salah was injured after one of those 'take one for the team challenge' and in fact they happen to him a lot. Kompany did an off the ground one on him last season and escaped with a yellow last season. Maguire did a slightly less harmful one on him in the same season and both felt like red cards to me.

I think there is an argument for challenges which aren't made for the ball, to be looked at and rules amended.

posted on 10/12/19

An off-the-ground challenge is an off-the-ground challenge. That’s different gravy to clipping someone’s ankles or dragging them to the ground, obviously.

posted on 10/12/19

comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 day, 6 hours ago
Please respect Fernandinho. Yes, he does it but in a very cute and clever way.
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He nudged my Gran off the cornflakes in the breakfast aisle at tesco's. Nothing cute about it.

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