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Focus on Stan Kroenke

No point discussing which manager to sign and what have you. The situation is much deeper than that.

The main issue here is this Stan Kroenke character. It's clear he's taking the absolute mick and yet fans are constantly attending, dishing out money for season tickets, etc.
Not only is this guy a shocking business man who doesn't realise you gotta spend money to make money, but he's also a terrible owner. I actually wonder how he managed to become a billionaire.

Regardless, it is clear this man has no plans to go anywhere. Fans have to take drastic actions such as not spending their hard earned money on this club and not attend matches.
Imagine their reaction if fans united and just emptied the stadium?
People have to wise up.

posted on 16/12/19

comment by Ljungxington 125.2 (U8879)
posted 2 minutes ago
Wise up?!

We’ve all known Kroenke’s MO since he started buying shares in the club, so why do you think there’s suddenly going to be a massive change in fan behaviour?
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If that's the attitude people are adopting then you deserve what you get.

Whether you knew it or not is irrelevant. It's clear now that this man has no interest in Arsenal or football as a whole. Why not hurt my in his pockets and quit spending money on the club and its merchandise.

posted on 16/12/19

comment by Dubbed* (U21815)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Ljungxington 125.2 (U8879)
posted 2 minutes ago
Wise up?!

We’ve all known Kroenke’s MO since he started buying shares in the club, so why do you think there’s suddenly going to be a massive change in fan behaviour?
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If that's the attitude people are adopting then you deserve what you get.

Whether you knew it or not is irrelevant. It's clear now that this man has no interest in Arsenal or football as a whole. Why not hurt my in his pockets and quit spending money on the club and its merchandise.
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Don't buy that. Why has he spent almost a billion in buying us without actually saddling us in debt like Glazers?

posted on 16/12/19

comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 3 minutes ago
I have been no fan of Kroenke in the past. But I don't blame him for the present mess. I blame Fiszman for destroying the management structure in 2007. After that its take till 2018 to implement a new structure. We were always going to go through hard times after the mess Wenger left us in with a overpaid and unbalanced squad of players.
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How on earth do you not blame him? This man is using the club to fund his ranch and other business ventures meanwhile refusing to inject money into the club. Yet fans are happy to be taken for mugs, mindlessly spending their hard earned cash. Silly.

posted on 16/12/19

comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Dubbed* (U21815)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Ljungxington 125.2 (U8879)
posted 2 minutes ago
Wise up?!

We’ve all known Kroenke’s MO since he started buying shares in the club, so why do you think there’s suddenly going to be a massive change in fan behaviour?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

If that's the attitude people are adopting then you deserve what you get.

Whether you knew it or not is irrelevant. It's clear now that this man has no interest in Arsenal or football as a whole. Why not hurt my in his pockets and quit spending money on the club and its merchandise.
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Don't buy that. Why has he spent almost a billion in buying us without actually saddling us in debt like Glazers?
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I don't get it. Then what's the point of him holding Arsenal hostage? What does he hope to achieve?

posted on 16/12/19

comment by Dubbed* (U21815)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Dubbed* (U21815)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Ljungxington 125.2 (U8879)
posted 2 minutes ago
Wise up?!

We’ve all known Kroenke’s MO since he started buying shares in the club, so why do you think there’s suddenly going to be a massive change in fan behaviour?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

If that's the attitude people are adopting then you deserve what you get.

Whether you knew it or not is irrelevant. It's clear now that this man has no interest in Arsenal or football as a whole. Why not hurt my in his pockets and quit spending money on the club and its merchandise.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Don't buy that. Why has he spent almost a billion in buying us without actually saddling us in debt like Glazers?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I don't get it. Then what's the point of him holding Arsenal hostage? What does he hope to achieve?
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Arsenal are the 4th most profitable club in the world according to Forbes in 2018. I don't see any reason why Kroenke would want to harm his huge investment in any way.

I think the problem is very mundane one that I see in a lot of businesses. Its nothing to do with Kroenke. Its the fact we have had a lot of change and made a mistake appointing Emery. Everything else stems from the poor legacy of Wenger from 2012 to 2018.

comment by 8bit (U2653)

posted on 16/12/19

70m on Pepe, 40m on Ozil, 35m on Xhaka and Mustafi and a lot more money wasted on players in recent times, it's not lack of investment that's the problem but total mismanagement and lack of a proper structure in place to handle the football side of things.

posted on 16/12/19

comment by Dubbed* (U21815)
posted 4 hours, 15 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 3 minutes ago
I have been no fan of Kroenke in the past. But I don't blame him for the present mess. I blame Fiszman for destroying the management structure in 2007. After that its take till 2018 to implement a new structure. We were always going to go through hard times after the mess Wenger left us in with a overpaid and unbalanced squad of players.
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How on earth do you not blame him? This man is using the club to fund his ranch and other business ventures meanwhile refusing to inject money into the club. Yet fans are happy to be taken for mugs, mindlessly spending their hard earned cash. Silly.
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He was offered a brilliant investment opportunity and introduced by David Dein, as a businessman he was never never turning us down. I don’t like the guy don’t get me wrong but the people that we thought had our best interests like Dein and bracewell Smith are the real culprits imo.

posted on 16/12/19

comment by Dubbed* (U21815)
posted 4 hours, 20 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 3 minutes ago
I have been no fan of Kroenke in the past. But I don't blame him for the present mess. I blame Fiszman for destroying the management structure in 2007. After that its take till 2018 to implement a new structure. We were always going to go through hard times after the mess Wenger left us in with a overpaid and unbalanced squad of players.
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How on earth do you not blame him? This man is using the club to fund his ranch and other business ventures meanwhile refusing to inject money into the club. Yet fans are happy to be taken for mugs, mindlessly spending their hard earned cash. Silly.
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If he is doing what you suggest then Arsenal underperforming has to be hurting his finances. You do understand that the cost of capital increases if the value of the club goes down. As we are no longer in the CL the value of the club is definitely going down. So tell me why wouldn't he do all he can to fix the problem including spending money (which btw he has spent at the tune of net c£100m for the last 3 seasons)?

posted on 16/12/19

Everyone should leave the stadium after 15 mins of the next home game

comment by Tu Meke (U3732)

posted on 16/12/19

We've spent plenty of money under Kroenke. The issue there is that we've spent badly, again and again.

The problem with Kroenke is that he or his son are far too slow to react to issues at the club, leaving them to fester and metastasize. Look at Wenger. Look at Emery. Look at Ljungberg.

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