Offside is Offside.........

comment by The Goofy One (U16087)
posted 58 minutes ago
Ha ha ha. Cant wait for var to be introduced said the opposition fans ha ha ha
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At the time they didn't realise Liverpool would be running

comment by Striketeam7 (U18109)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
The Liverpool goal is the exact sort of incident that VAR needs to faeck off from. The Wolves players stopped because the ref gave an incorrect decision, then the goal stands. There is no fair outcome from that, one team loses out, but surely you have to go with the defensive side in that instance.

I think Shelvey had one of these earlier in the season in a game that ended 1-0. The best thing would be to get rid of VAR for everything bar offside.
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If they stopped then they are idiots. The ref blew after the ball crossed the line and it wasn't handball.

it's supposed to determine if a player is offside when a pass is made. but when is that? when the passer makes contact with the ball? when the ball leaves contact with the passer? somewhere inbetween?
when trying to look at such fine margins, that can cover a significant amount of time and movement. two VAR refs can look at the same incident and come to different results. so VAR doesn't clear anything up, it just adds another layer of ambiguity and arguments.

comment by 19th title coming soon. (U12879)
posted 5 minutes ago
it's supposed to determine if a player is offside when a pass is made. but when is that? when the passer makes contact with the ball? when the ball leaves contact with the passer? somewhere inbetween?
when trying to look at such fine margins, that can cover a significant amount of time and movement. two VAR refs can look at the same incident and come to different results. so VAR doesn't clear anything up, it just adds another layer of ambiguity and arguments.
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So what you are saying is for tight calls, VAR is only marginally better than normal refs. However, it also gets rid of absolute howlers. So it is definitely better.

As per the rules VAR did nothing wrong today.

If people are unhappy then lobby for the rule to be changed.

what i'm saying is that for tight calls, for which they can't qive a quick definitive answer, then it's no better than it was before, and there's no great advantage gained. so give it as benefit of doubt goes to the attacker, exactly as offside rules stated before VAR.
so if they can't decide within eg 15 seconds then it's considered onside.

comment by 19th title coming soon. (U12879)
posted 16 minutes ago
what i'm saying is that for tight calls, for which they can't qive a quick definitive answer, then it's no better than it was before, and there's no great advantage gained. so give it as benefit of doubt goes to the attacker, exactly as offside rules stated before VAR.
so if they can't decide within eg 15 seconds then it's considered onside.
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nah. just go with 2 appeals to each side per game then let the onfield officals make thier calls.

Just make the rules CLEAR.

lino must flag (they got a corner off a clear offside today for example thats not on)

Ref MUST NOT blow up to stop a chance.

Allow teams make an appeal then make the ref explain the call via microphone so all can hear process.

IF a lino flags offisde and decision is so tight just stick with it. similarly if he doesn't and its tight let it go.

THE POINT IS TO FIX CLEAR INJUSTICE.

today anthony Taylor a well known man utd fan who pretends otherwise did his best to blow up a perfect goal and give handball. VAR corrected him then he chose to have a strop and give lallana a yellow for his first foul and continued on all game giving wolves every advantage.

thats a travesty.

wolves didn't get justice for their goal. I think that kind of stuff is a game killer. It must be got rid of. the lino didn't flag. i sincerely doubt we would have appealed that either. it would have stayed linos call IMO.

comment by Striketeam7 (U18109)
posted 2 hours, 26 minutes ago
The Liverpool goal is the exact sort of incident that VAR needs to faeck off from. The Wolves players stopped because the ref gave an incorrect decision, then the goal stands. There is no fair outcome from that, one team loses out, but surely you have to go with the defensive side in that instance.

I think Shelvey had one of these earlier in the season in a game that ended 1-0. The best thing would be to get rid of VAR for everything bar offside.
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Couldn’t disagree more! Handballs like that are EXACTLY what VAR is for - one replay and it’s clear it doesn’t hit his arm. The offside is where VAR is a farce!!

comment by CutMeAndIBleedRed (U7593)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Striketeam7 (U18109)
posted 2 hours, 26 minutes ago
The Liverpool goal is the exact sort of incident that VAR needs to faeck off from. The Wolves players stopped because the ref gave an incorrect decision, then the goal stands. There is no fair outcome from that, one team loses out, but surely you have to go with the defensive side in that instance.

I think Shelvey had one of these earlier in the season in a game that ended 1-0. The best thing would be to get rid of VAR for everything bar offside.
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Couldn’t disagree more! Handballs like that are EXACTLY what VAR is for - one replay and it’s clear it doesn’t hit his arm. The offside is where VAR is a farce!!
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The Liverpool goal was perfectly legitimate, if the Wolves defence stopped then that’s on them, the whistle hadn’t gone.

They’ve appealed for the handball hoping it would be ruled out and lost.

The handball rule needs looking at!

comment by moreinjuredthanowen (U9641)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by 19th title coming soon. (U12879)
posted 16 minutes ago
what i'm saying is that for tight calls, for which they can't qive a quick definitive answer, then it's no better than it was before, and there's no great advantage gained. so give it as benefit of doubt goes to the attacker, exactly as offside rules stated before VAR.
so if they can't decide within eg 15 seconds then it's considered onside.
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nah. just go with 2 appeals to each side per game then let the onfield officals make thier calls.

Just make the rules CLEAR.

lino must flag (they got a corner off a clear offside today for example thats not on)

Ref MUST NOT blow up to stop a chance.

Allow teams make an appeal then make the ref explain the call via microphone so all can hear process.

IF a lino flags offisde and decision is so tight just stick with it. similarly if he doesn't and its tight let it go.

THE POINT IS TO FIX CLEAR INJUSTICE.

today anthony Taylor a well known man utd fan who pretends otherwise did his best to blow up a perfect goal and give handball. VAR corrected him then he chose to have a strop and give lallana a yellow for his first foul and continued on all game giving wolves every advantage.

thats a travesty.

wolves didn't get justice for their goal. I think that kind of stuff is a game killer. It must be got rid of. the lino didn't flag. i sincerely doubt we would have appealed that either. it would have stayed linos call IMO.




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Ok, so the linesman makes a massive error and flags a player who was miles onside who is out clean through and will almost certainly score. The ref blows the whistle and play stops. Team appeals and the ref goes, oh yeah sorry lads you were right, but I had already blown so tough.