Might as well do it

yeah, the problem is if it makes sense, you can pretty much guarantee one of fifa/eufa/fa will veto it.

It's remarkable to see such a different fan respons to VAR in the UK vs in The Netherlands, where the system ran its first pilot ever in professional football.

I don't remember seeing any Dutch fans complaining about offsides that were close calls, mainly because we all know when technology gets involved, it's either black or white so ultimately you have to accept that call from the system or don't use it at all.

Building margins into the system won't make discussion die down as you just move the goal posts by the same margins. The solution is probably going to be a rule change: you are called offside whenever any part of your body is offside period (even your hand, arm, d*ck, whatever). Makes it easier to draw the lines by computer in stead of a human arbitrarily moving the lines himself.

A wolves fan made eminent sense just now on 606.

just make these appeals.

LFC would have appealed that awful reffing decision and retained their review and got a goal.

No wolves players or manager appealed for a handball. I am fully sure they only came up with that nugget 10mins after the fact.

I doubt LFC would have appealed for offside on that goals and even if we did if we apply "linos call rules" then it was so tight you go with on field call.

we are about correcting blatant wrong calls not ruining the game with impossible millmeter calls

Sorry but this handball rule is a total load of bollox, if it accidentally touches an attackers arm it’s a foul, if it accidentally touches the defenders arm it’s not a foul.

It makes no sense!

The wolves players foot was offside not his arm pit or his left testie, his foot.

comment by Lerradinho (U21557)
posted 23 minutes ago
It's remarkable to see such a different fan respons to VAR in the UK vs in The Netherlands, where the system ran its first pilot ever in professional football.

I don't remember seeing any Dutch fans complaining about offsides that were close calls, mainly because we all know when technology gets involved, it's either black or white so ultimately you have to accept that call from the system or don't use it at all.

Building margins into the system won't make discussion die down as you just move the goal posts by the same margins. The solution is probably going to be a rule change: you are called offside whenever any part of your body is offside period (even your hand, arm, d*ck, whatever). Makes it easier to draw the lines by computer in stead of a human arbitrarily moving the lines himself.
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dont want that at all. judging by the feet seems ideal.

Sometimes it won't be clear even with use of the feet and marginal offsides like today and yesterday will still happen.

I don't think people are critically considering the viability of some of their proposals.

comment by Naby one Kenaby - The flop is strong with this one (U1282)
posted 15 minutes ago
Sometimes it won't be clear even with use of the feet and marginal offsides like today and yesterday will still happen.

I don't think people are critically considering the viability of some of their proposals.
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but marginal offsides are offside.

comment by montleeds (U18330)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Naby one Kenaby - The flop is strong with this one (U1282)
posted 15 minutes ago
Sometimes it won't be clear even with use of the feet and marginal offsides like today and yesterday will still happen.

I don't think people are critically considering the viability of some of their proposals.
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but marginal offsides are offside.
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People are saying to use the feet as a solution to the current problem of marginal offsides.

Even with feet, some offsides will still be marginal and hard to call. Using feet would not solve an offside like todays.

comment by montleeds (U18330)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Naby one Kenaby - The flop is strong with this one (U1282)
posted 15 minutes ago
Sometimes it won't be clear even with use of the feet and marginal offsides like today and yesterday will still happen.

I don't think people are critically considering the viability of some of their proposals.
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but marginal offsides are offside.
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I think we agree on that, but it's also important to make this clear to the general football-watching public and therefore make it as easy as possible to determine whether it is or not. Judging by the feet leaves too much room for dispute when you see a player clearly has a head start as advantage.

You might argue that judging by bodypart is too disadvantageous for attackers, but that + VAR will actually make life alot easier for attackers that are good at avoiding the offside trap. In my lifetime I've seen strikers like Inzaghi and Makaay given offside unfairly too many times just because the linesman is afraid to let play go on when they appear to be 'blatantly offside' (it does look like that when an expert poacher does his job well)

Also, imagine when the defender is trying to move up so as to play an attacker offside. The attacker is making the run.

Its possible the attackers feet are onside while the rest of his body, or most of it is offside. They lean forward for acceleration. The defender has to stop and change direction while the attacker is adjudged not offside and through on goal.

At the end of the day, why do people want perfection with VAR?

Pre-VAR we would just go with the ref/linesman's decision. They would look and make a decision and from there fack it if its wrong or right.

With VAR we go with the VAR officials decision. The VAR official looks and makes a decision and from there fack if its wrong or right.

The aim is not perfection, its just to increase accuracy to a reasonable and acceptable level for today's game.

Leave the marginal offsides to the opinion of the video ref. Previously we were happy to rely on the opinion of a pitch ref (and they made many howlers)but now we're not happy with the decisions of a video assisted ref(less howlers).

The game is all about subjectivity and VAR will maintain that too.

Something doesn't add up there.