So. Are the players 'betraying' Ole?

quite frankly we have some poor coaches.

comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 51 seconds ago
I imagine Ole has shown to the group he has favourites.

Thus splitting the team.

I can’t imagine Ole is that great at man management and I’d also guess that when the pressure gets more intense, he blows a gasket. The nice guy mask slips, he loses it (not at one of his favourites) and the squad see the serial killer side.

Conjecture at this point


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And almost certainly wrong. If anything he's too nice, no hidden serial killer.
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Ok he’s probably not a serial killer

But his nice guy attitude has split the squad, so something happened

comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by Bryan ROBBson (U22311)
posted 2 hours ago
The players have been shiiiit but it’s the managers job to get the best out of what he has. Or else what’s the point of having a manager?
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Actually this is contradicted by so many ex professionals.

Peter Crouch talked about this on his podcast not long ago, on the fact that players don’t really pay attention to the tactics and that once they go out on the pitch they forget/ignore a lot of what they were instructed to do out of self-interest. Also touched on the fact that regardless of instruction a lot of players will go against the managers instructions if they don’t think the tactics benefit them as individuals; citing his own example of ignoring Benitez when he was asked to play left wing. Case in point, Pogba every time he is asked to do anything other than hug the edge of the opposition’s 18 yard box.
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That would suggest to be successful you haventje fill the team with intelligent and disciplined players. Most aren’t.

comment by RB&W 'The Judge' (U21434)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
Nohlman et al

I get that are convinced that United are poorly coached because United often struggle to win games that you think we should be walking through. You blame the manager hope he gets sacked and a new one comes in and the same pattern emerges. It like a groundhog day.

I can assure you that Ole isn't the only coach working with the players at OT and he has teams of coaches working at the club at all levels on a day to day basis using the very latets technology and techiques.

I suggest you probably know feck all about football coaching detail, or real football in general (I am not talking about the TV portrayal of football or the games like football Manager ... Have you ever played and been coached in organised football clubs yourself to know how bad attitude, bullying and prima donna culture from other players in your group can undermine others in the same group who are not so vocal and destroy all the work that the coaching staff are trying to install into the squad individually and sas a whole. This is exactly what Fred has been alluding to.
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To be fair, its the managers job to ensure this does not happen. I mean, the job is to manage the team, it's in the name.

If "bad attitude, bullying and prima donna culture from other players in your group can undermine others in the same group who are not so vocal and destroy all the work that the coaching staff are trying to install into the squad individually and sas a whole" then the manager is failing at his job surely.

comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 42 minutes ago
The coaches we have are crap. Who is McKenna? Carrick and ole and the rest of them. Look like championship level coaches. Phelan crap at managerial level. Mediocrity stinking united out
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Someone missed his dose of Prozac....

comment by Ole-Dirty-Baztard (U19119)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by Bryan ROBBson (U22311)
posted 2 hours ago
The players have been shiiiit but it’s the managers job to get the best out of what he has. Or else what’s the point of having a manager?
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Actually this is contradicted by so many ex professionals.

Peter Crouch talked about this on his podcast not long ago, on the fact that players don’t really pay attention to the tactics and that once they go out on the pitch they forget/ignore a lot of what they were instructed to do out of self-interest. Also touched on the fact that regardless of instruction a lot of players will go against the managers instructions if they don’t think the tactics benefit them as individuals; citing his own example of ignoring Benitez when he was asked to play left wing. Case in point, Pogba every time he is asked to do anything other than hug the edge of the opposition’s 18 yard box.
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That would suggest to be successful you haventje fill the team with intelligent and disciplined players. Most aren’t.
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Hard to think of a successful team that lacked for disciplined/intelligent players.

comment by Ole-Dirty-Baztard (U19119)
posted 2 hours, 58 minutes ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - Ole's joy Manticore (U2958)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 47 seconds ago
Spit on Ji.
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Harsh!
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Ultimately the manager is the one who loses his job, so regardless of who is "responsible", the manager better believe its him.

comment by rosso is done with this (U17054)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Ole-Dirty-Baztard (U19119)
posted 2 hours, 58 minutes ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - Ole's joy Manticore (U2958)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 47 seconds ago
Spit on Ji.
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Harsh!
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Players referring to the manager by his first name. That's part of the problem right there. Ole needs to learn to set boundaries.