Wenger to the rescue

comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - Ole's joy Manticore (U2958)
posted 2 hours, 27 minutes ago
https://twitter.com/DaleJohnsonESPN/status/1230092230234378240

This thread sums it up... No more or less goals will be ruled offside by VAR... literally just moving the millimetre line
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This.

The simplest solution as I see it is just to get rid of the lines on the replay and leave it to the human eye. Offside replays before VAR always seemed pretty clear cut.

If they had done that on Monday for example, and allowed Giroud's goal to stand, not a single person wouldve batted an eyelid.

In my opinion there are two options.

1) You leave it as it is, you are either offside or onside based on the technology used today (this can be refined for accuracy). Its consistent and is supportive of the fact the offside rule is meant to be objective.

2) You let the linesman and referees call offside as they did before VAR. Then if there is a clear and obvious error (based on a set unit of length e.g. 1/2 yard, 1/2 metre) then VAR can overrule the decision. This needs refinement but it would be based on 'Umpires call' for LBW decisions in cricket. It uses technology effectively whilst giving leeway to the referees and also improves the flow of the game.

There is a problem here as linesman could call offside for players who are onside, but they should be encouraged to give the benefit of doubt to the attacker (as they were before).

comment by Mike (U1170)
posted 3 hours, 10 minutes ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Mike (U1170)
posted 1 minute ago
It was best when they let Stevie Wonder draw the lines on the screens for Matas disallowed goal for us.
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I remember that, it was mental. Fa cup tie weren't it.
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Yeah against Huddersfield, when you look at the image now you think it's fake, like when people mock up those fake heat maps as a joke/meme.

https://i2-prod.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/incoming/article16775215.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/0_VARJPG.jpg


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Classic!

comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - Ole's joy Manticore (U2958)
posted 3 hours, 18 minutes ago
https://twitter.com/DaleJohnsonESPN/status/1230092230234378240

This thread sums it up... No more or less goals will be ruled offside by VAR... literally just moving the millimetre line
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Surely it’s better for the game if players are allowed to be 99% onside instead of 1% off.

Not really. It would increase the amount of VAR interference as well. It’s easier for everyone, linesman and assistant refs, to judge whether a player is offside with the current law.

Wengers rule would make it far too easy for attackers imo, especially on set pieces. Would be ridiculous how far 'offside' (as we currently know it) you'd be allowed to stand as long as you left a trailing leg. Players like Crouch would be fckin miles in front

Fellaini would love it.

Think about how much it would benefit Ronaldo as well. He’d be allowed an extra full stride and still be on. Which for a player like him is a huge advantage.

comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - Ole's joy Manticore (U2958)
posted 3 hours, 18 minutes ago
https://twitter.com/DaleJohnsonESPN/status/1230092230234378240

This thread sums it up... No more or less goals will be ruled offside by VAR... literally just moving the millimetre line
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Surely it’s better for the game if players are allowed to be 99% onside instead of 1% off.


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I see them as two separate points really.

1) How VAR is implemented for offsides and 2) Whether the current offside system is good enough, with or without VAR.

This rule change will not make any difference to the amount of VAR calls made, it's literally just moving a line.

Whether we should be looking at changing the offside rule is a different thing. I don't really think it was broke, as long as advantage was given to the attacker.

The offiside rule was brought in so that attackers don't have an advantage over defenders. The current VAR is not being used in the spirit of the rule. A toe offside does not give an attacker the advantage. Whatever is implemented it has to be on this basis. Maybe the simplest option is just to come up with a measurable distance.ll e.g. 1 yard

The offside rule has its roots in rugby, back when forward passes weren’t permitted in football. Its evolution has been to actually benefit attackers more than defenders. Which is one of the reasons why giving the advantage to the attacker was a thing.