It's been a disaster here in England. The other top leagues around Europe seem to be doing fine with it. And since they started doing VAR before us , you'd think we would do it the same way as everyone else , you know , having the match referee look at the monitor and make a decision himself but noooooooo ... we just had to be different. We wanted to be special with that "raising the bar" nonsense , having an official sitting on a toilet seat in a public WC somewhere in London making absolutely shocking decisions every single week.
It hasn't worked at all. And in all honesty it's becoming a joke now. The other countries must be laughing at the utter incompetence of the Premier League to use VAR.
What the heck is wrong with a ref going over to the sideline and watching a replay for a few seconds and actually MAKE HIS OWN DECISION instead of leaving it to an invisible man who doesn't have to explain to the players and managers why he's made a particular decision.
Apart from giving all the controversial decisions in favour of Liverpool , VAR was supposed to get decisions right. But on far too many cases this season it's been getting decisions wrong ... horribly wrong!
Something must change next season
VAR
posted on 23/2/20
comment by Bryan ROBBson (U22311)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Bryan ROBBson (U22311)
posted 11 minutes ago
If VAR was abolished tomorrow would the game be any worse? Of course not
People say ‘it’s not VAR, it’s the people making the decisions that ruin it
Well, they’re the same thing - unless we get a robot making decisions who is never wrong it will always rely on imperfect humans to operate it. And if we’re relying on imperfect humans then why not just stick with referees ?
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On one hand people say officials make mistakes and it should be accepted, on the other they say officials makes mistakes and it shouldn't be accepted so we should go back to more mistakes.
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It’s amazing you’ve managed to get that from what myself and others are saying
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Is it?
So which part do you disagree with?
People say officials make mistakes and it should be accepted.
People say officials make mistakes and it shouldn't be accepted and therefore we should scrap it and go back to onfield pfficials making mistakes.
posted on 23/2/20
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 54 minutes ago
comment by rosso is done with this (U17054)
posted 56 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 10 hours, 1 minute ago
People talk about errors.
The truth is that there are barely any errors. They’re just decisions people disagree with.
VAR doesn’t change that.
We’ve lost so much good about the game for very little benefit.
People who view the world in black and white, tick box like ways will never understand.
VAR is no good for the game. No good at all.
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I’m with Winston on this.
We’re losing what little of the essence of the game we still have.
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And what's that? A minute off the clock, which gets added on? A celebration that happens that was for nothing or turns into two celebrations? What are we actually losing that isn't massively superseded by more correct decisions, a fairer game?
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People will say they want a ‘fair game’, but that doesn’t mean that every refereeing decision has to be as accurate as possible.
If you want a ‘fair game’ then there are hundreds of things you can do without impacting the flow of matches: redistribute wealth across the PL and down through the league system, start funding grassroots properly, pump money into officiating to train up and retain a much higher number of refs and assistants to higher standards, deal with diving properly, use stronger retro-action to deal with timewasting and violent conduct, hold players who abuse refs to account and mic up refs, ban substitutions after 45 minutes are up each half, standardise pitch sizes and conditions, bring in minimum rest periods between games, take FFP seriously at international and national levels... take your pick.
All of this is stuff that is done and agreed *before kickoff* and doesn’t interrupt the flow of the game. People no longer celebrating goals with the same fervour in the stadium is the worst thing that has happened to football in a long, long time.
I mean, why do we go watch football matches if not to celebrate goals? It’s the footballing orga5m, and it is being numbed by a bureaucratic process.
posted on 23/2/20
comment by rosso is done with this (U17054)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 54 minutes ago
comment by rosso is done with this (U17054)
posted 56 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 10 hours, 1 minute ago
People talk about errors.
The truth is that there are barely any errors. They’re just decisions people disagree with.
VAR doesn’t change that.
We’ve lost so much good about the game for very little benefit.
People who view the world in black and white, tick box like ways will never understand.
VAR is no good for the game. No good at all.
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I’m with Winston on this.
We’re losing what little of the essence of the game we still have.
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And what's that? A minute off the clock, which gets added on? A celebration that happens that was for nothing or turns into two celebrations? What are we actually losing that isn't massively superseded by more correct decisions, a fairer game?
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People will say they want a ‘fair game’, but that doesn’t mean that every refereeing decision has to be as accurate as possible.
If you want a ‘fair game’ then there are hundreds of things you can do without impacting the flow of matches: redistribute wealth across the PL and down through the league system, start funding grassroots properly, pump money into officiating to train up and retain a much higher number of refs and assistants to higher standards, deal with diving properly, use stronger retro-action to deal with timewasting and violent conduct, hold players who abuse refs to account and mic up refs, ban substitutions after 45 minutes are up each half, standardise pitch sizes and conditions, bring in minimum rest periods between games, take FFP seriously at international and national levels... take your pick.
All of this is stuff that is done and agreed *before kickoff* and doesn’t interrupt the flow of the game. People no longer celebrating goals with the same fervour in the stadium is the worst thing that has happened to football in a long, long time.
I mean, why do we go watch football matches if not to celebrate goals? It’s the footballing orga5m, and it is being numbed by a bureaucratic process.
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Or just have VAR, which we now have and be happy with a fairer game. That's what I'm doing anyhow. Others are free to do as they wish. I respect their opinion.
posted on 23/2/20
TOOR
It is all a matter of opinion, of course
I’m just sorry that we’ve spent half of the season talking about VAR, rather than the actual football. (He says, in the middle of a conversation about VAR )
posted on 23/2/20
The game is better. Offsides are correct, goal line technology correct and we are gettin more decisions correct. A few issues need addressing but its new and thats to be expected.
posted on 23/2/20
A fairer game?
People like TOOR have completely lost the plot in regards to what football is.
Narrow minded nonsense.
posted on 23/2/20
comment by Rouge (U19907)
posted 4 hours, 3 minutes ago
The game is better. Offsides are correct, goal line technology correct and we are gettin more decisions correct. A few issues need addressing but its new and thats to be expected.
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I've just checked and 79 incorrect decisions have been overturned alone, 79! How in the world could we go back to 79 incorrect decisions with less that 3/4 of the season gone?
posted on 23/2/20
comment by Rouge (U19907)
posted 4 hours, 4 minutes ago
The game is better. Offsides are correct, goal line technology correct and we are gettin more decisions correct. A few issues need addressing but its new and thats to be expected.
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I do like goal line technology, but that's quick and black and white.
I'm currently watching city vs chelsea ladies, and there could have been two goals disallowed for offside but it's refreshing not to see reviews.
posted on 23/2/20
79 incorrect decisions, including many, many marginal calls that would have impacted the game not one jot.
The purpose of refereeing was never to be 100% correct.
The purpose was to manage the game and interpret each incident as best as possible, making a decision and managing the game.
This pursuit of perfection with all decisions is not what the game was about and it will harm the game.
posted on 23/2/20
The only part of VAR I thought would work well is the offsides and I was wrong - it’s a terrible system offering so little benefit.