Bayern and Dortmund have both invested in young talents outside of Europe more than other big clubs across Europe have. Madrid have of course also been involved but it’s mainly in Brazil, a nation known for football talent.
But the Germans have gone to places who’s national teams aren’t exactly renown for football. Bayern have bought Alphonso Davies from Canada, and from New Zealand they’ve got Sarpreet Singh, who unusually is also of south Asian descent, something of a rarity in top level football. Dortmund bought Pulisic, an American, who is now at Chelsea. Another young American they have is Reyna who also looks pretty good at only 17.
Arsenal have in past tried to find talent in North America (Zelalem). But for whatever reason he didn’t fulfil his potential and we’ve not really gone across the Atlantic or other non footballing parts of the world. Of course with Edu, you’d hope more guys like Martinelli come through.
When Wenger first came in, he was really good at finding cheap but world class talent from mainly France and other parts of Europe too. But now finding a young talent in Europe isn’t a hidden secret anymore.
What’s holding back other clubs from doing what Germans are doing? Surely with the money involved in top level, scouts should be easy to set up. Youth players coming through academy and an unknown guy who gets the fans going do cause excitement. In all fairness we do have some good youth talent doing through all at once, compared to previous years alongside Martinelli. But also being quite bad on the pitch has meant these guys have had more chances than they probably would’ve otherwise.
German clubs international recruits
posted on 5/3/20
Bayern and Dortmund play in a league where they can afford to blood youngsters.
The PL is too competitive and cash driven so it will rarely happen. The only recent example is of Chelsea this year and that was forced due to the transfer ban
posted on 5/3/20
comment by Momo’s Goggles (U22339)
posted 4 minutes ago
Bayern and Dortmund play in a league where they can afford to blood youngsters.
The PL is too competitive and cash driven so it will rarely happen. The only recent example is of Chelsea this year and that was forced due to the transfer ban
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Well, Arsenal are also playing a lot of younger players right now, and Manchester United have blooded a couple this year. I don't think it's that per se.
I think there is a preference for home grown players in England because there is, in the mainstream, a preference for home grown players amongst fan groups. People want to see local lads getting the chance.
posted on 5/3/20
Well, Arsenal are also playing a lot of younger players right now, and Manchester United have blooded a couple this year. I don't think it's that per se.
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Yeah but we're both struggling - Bayern can play youngsters and still romp the league most years.
posted on 5/3/20
comment by Lubo - Super Cooper! (U14008)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Momo’s Goggles (U22339)
posted 4 minutes ago
Bayern and Dortmund play in a league where they can afford to blood youngsters.
The PL is too competitive and cash driven so it will rarely happen. The only recent example is of Chelsea this year and that was forced due to the transfer ban
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Well, Arsenal are also playing a lot of younger players right now, and Manchester United have blooded a couple this year. I don't think it's that per se.
I think there is a preference for home grown players in England because there is, in the mainstream, a preference for home grown players amongst fan groups. People want to see local lads getting the chance.
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Do Germans not want to see their own local lads getting a chance?
posted on 5/3/20
I know we are doing it, it is intended to be our long term aim to develop rather than buy to compete.
Owen Otasowie a very highly regarded American
posted on 6/3/20
Bayern and Dortmund have both invested in young talents outside of Europe more than other big clubs across Europe have.
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Is this actually true?
posted on 6/3/20
comment by TBaggerin (U11806)
posted 8 hours, 49 minutes ago
Well, Arsenal are also playing a lot of younger players right now, and Manchester United have blooded a couple this year. I don't think it's that per se.
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Yeah but we're both struggling - Bayern can play youngsters and still romp the league most years.
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Well yes, but I think the OP is misleading in this regard. Not only have Bayern been struggling for parts of this season (doing their classic thing of overtaking someone like Leipzig/Dortmund for the second half of the year), but only really Alphonso Davies has played a significant amount of the young players being referred to. Sarpeet Singh has played at most a handful of games. Its not like they're playing young players every game.
posted on 6/3/20
The Germans are just better at running football clubs.
posted on 6/3/20
It's much easier for a non-EU player to get a work permit in the Bundesliga than in the English/Italian/Spanish FAs.
They also don't nominally limit their scope to the Top-70 FIFA nations like we do. Thus setting the German football pyramid up to have a free run at Asian and African talent.
Our clubs are also quite sniffy about the distributed player-ownership arrangements found throughout the Americas. We still have clubs moaning about the Tevez and Masherano deals almost 15 years later.