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Keep the home fires burning

We’re not going to have any football to talk about for a long while. Some of us will be having to stay home for months, maybe with little contact with other people. This site is a small part of our lives, but every little bit will help and I for one would like to know how we are all managing in the coming months. The outcome of Spart’s prostate/hernia saga being top of the list, obviously.

Let’s keep this site going if we can. We can reminisce of games and seasons in the past. We can debate where we are as a club, and how we are shaping up for the future, whenever it comes. We can digress into any and all things as we have always done. But let’s maintain contact. I’ve met very few people on here, but we’re friends, aren’t we? We can keep each other company until it all kicks off again.

posted 8 hours, 19 minutes ago

Do we need as many cattle though Vidal. Basically with intensive farming we have a plague of farm animals. Then farmers complain they can't get the prices they want for their produce. If the public were sensible and actually cared for the environment instead of paying lip service they would reduce the amount of animal protein they consume. This would have incredible benefits to the planet.

Farmers already employ electric fences extensively, especially dairy farmers. They do it to protect pasture but apparently doing it to protect people is ridiculous.

posted 7 hours, 55 minutes ago

You're not trained in risk assessment, I gather then Vidal?

Those figures are slightly out of date, according to the NFU there had been 78 [+1] fatalities due to cattle attacks over the last 10 years in the U.K. Cattle statistically are the most dangerous, non dangerous animal in the countryside.
Farmers have been prosecuted by HSE for leaving known aggressive cattle in fields crossed by public rights of way; the NFU have provided guidance to their members on the subject.

Most incidents seem to involve dogs and cows with calves, or where they've been recently separated from male calves; the extant advice is not to pick the dog up, but let it run off, not doing that has proved fatal on a number of different occasions now.

posted 7 hours, 17 minutes ago

RFB, as I said, if you take away farm workers then the numbers are very small. According to HSE there were 74 deaths over 15 years up to 2015 and the great majority in farm workers. So about one a year, maybe two a year, excluding farm workers. About three people a year die from being struck by lightning in this country and four from bee or wasp stings. About 6,000 people die each year from accidents in the home.

I actually do a risk assessment every evening because I run through a field of cows. Sometimes they follow me at a gentle gallop and my plan is that if they mistake me for Spart and attack then I will jump in the river and hope that they don't follow me. Obviously there is a risk that they could be upon me before I could do that but it's a lovely run by the river and I am prepared to take that small chance, much safer as it is than, say, driving in my car to work. The chance of a cow killing me is smaller than that of dying by being struck by lightning or stung by an insect, so you know what, I'll be a brave boy and take that chance.

posted 7 hours, 2 minutes ago

Cows which are familiar with people rarely attack. Dairy cattle which are used to people tend to be less dangerous than beef cattle. Generally I can predict what cows are going to do but horses are a different matter. One of my walking buddies nearly had his head taken off by a horse. The same horse is still in the same field crossed by a footpath. It's on Tideswell moor near the telecommunication mast if you want to have an exciting experience.

Only twice have I been bothered by cows, the one where I was pushed down the river bank was because the cows had been spooked by kids on trail bikes. The other was a herd of limousin cattle on Beeley moor when he had a faithful dog with us which insisted on walking to heal even when the cattle charged. Fortunately we weren't too far from the gate. A farmer told me she would never put limousins in a field with a footpath.

posted 6 hours, 35 minutes ago

Limousins are notorious. I have seen a number of farmers with serious injuries caused by these cows. The general risk here though is fortunately tiny and even more so if you don't have a dog with you.

posted 4 hours, 18 minutes ago

I have a small fold of Highland cattle. These are placid but winter outside, are not halter trained and don't particularly like being handled. If irritated they can kick and whilst unintentional, a sudden turn of the head can cause serious injury - they have an impressive spread of horn.

They are very photogenic and torsos regularly stop but horrified last summer to see a German family taking a photo of their tiny blonde child in the middle of the herd - had one of the cows spooked or moved suddenly......!

posted 3 hours, 46 minutes ago

Stopped torsos must be a bit of a hazard. If the cattle are as feisty as advertised you might be better with a torero than a torso.

posted 3 hours ago

Local name for tourists of course.......

posted 37 minutes ago

Emmets in Cornwall, grockles in Devon, torsos in the Hebrides. All very confusing.

posted 17 minutes ago

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