Kyle Walker again.

comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 2 minutes ago

Not once did I excuse his actions. But there are literally thousands of people up and down the country breaking lockdown rules. Kyle will be dealt with by his club, I'm sure many thousands more will simply get away with it.


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Ok, maybe I misinterpreted your posts and if so I apologise. But tbh, when you say he's not doing anything thousands of others aren't, it does sound like you're excusing his actions.
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It’s what you hear all the time...well they park there why can’t I, well he did so what’s wrong if I do it...

Big problem
In society is lack of responsibility and it’s generally underpinned by this sort of apathetic attitude and then we wonder why kids vandalise or mug....it’s because they see adults not calling out bad behaviour.

comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you. (U7905)
posted 2 hours, 21 minutes ago
Why when a footballer does something are footballers as a group chastised?
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Because it's easy.

Like I said I dont actually see a problem with what he has done here, im not saying he isint wrong but that I cant judge him on it. The reason for that is because in my job I have to spend a lot of my time looking at things in gray, rather than black and white, as we want to do here.

People look at this from a perspective of rich privilege and think because he is some rich footballer with a nice house he should be able to handle isolation no problem, however just cause you are rich dosent mean you ain't got stuff going on in your head, or that you are able to handle this situation better than other people, and unfortunately that lack of being able to cope can lead to situation where people dont/cant follow isolation guidelines.

The statement he put out to the press makes interesting reading and while I cant say for certain there are certainly things within it that make my safeguarding senses tingle, going to his sisters because he needed to see her as she is someone who he trusts and help keeps him grounded for example is a big one and if a student wrote something like that it would be a big red flag.

Cant say for certain but maybe the hour and a half drive to his parents was a coping mechanism for him, clear his head on the drive as it were, remember just because he is some rich footballer dosent mean he cant suffer from mental health issues, and that these can be brought about by situations like this, and its clear in that letter that he could well be suffering.

Like I said I look at it like that cause I have to see in gray, I teach in one of the most socially deprived areas in the county and unfortunately that affects a lot of my kids home lives, I know that some of them are breaking self isolation, but then again staying at home could put themselves or their family in danger, now what are my options, judge them and report them to the police for it, or find other ways and other people and organisations to help deal with the issue rather than just punishing them for it?

Most people understand that the second option is the better one, it's only people who want to judge everyone by their own standards and arnt mature enough to understand that people are complex and arnt perfect so can struggle, even when you think they shouldn't cause they are rich and have anything they want when compared to the rest of us.

All I've done here is take how I think about one situation and apply to the other - hence I cant say he is wrong cause people are not, nor will ever be perfect.

comment by Mattyp (U8926)
posted 7 minutes ago

Because it's easy.

Like I said I dont actually see a problem with what he has done here, im not saying he isint wrong but that I cant judge him on it. The reason for that is because in my job I have to spend a lot of my time looking at things in gray, rather than black and white, as we want to do here.

People look at this from a perspective of rich privilege and think because he is some rich footballer with a nice house he should be able to handle isolation no problem, however just cause you are rich dosent mean you ain't got stuff going on in your head, or that you are able to handle this situation better than other people, and unfortunately that lack of being able to cope can lead to situation where people dont/cant follow isolation guidelines.

The statement he put out to the press makes interesting reading and while I cant say for certain there are certainly things within it that make my safeguarding senses tingle, going to his sisters because he needed to see her as she is someone who he trusts and help keeps him grounded for example is a big one and if a student wrote something like that it would be a big red flag.

Cant say for certain but maybe the hour and a half drive to his parents was a coping mechanism for him, clear his head on the drive as it were, remember just because he is some rich footballer dosent mean he cant suffer from mental health issues, and that these can be brought about by situations like this, and its clear in that letter that he could well be suffering.

Like I said I look at it like that cause I have to see in gray, I teach in one of the most socially deprived areas in the county and unfortunately that affects a lot of my kids home lives, I know that some of them are breaking self isolation, but then again staying at home could put themselves or their family in danger, now what are my options, judge them and report them to the police for it, or find other ways and other people and organisations to help deal with the issue rather than just punishing them for it?

Most people understand that the second option is the better one, it's only people who want to judge everyone by their own standards and arnt mature enough to understand that people are complex and arnt perfect so can struggle, even when you think they shouldn't cause they are rich and have anything they want when compared to the rest of us.

All I've done here is take how I think about one situation and apply to the other - hence I cant say he is wrong cause people are not, nor will ever be perfect.

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Great post. I don't agree with everything but I do agree with much of it.

Money and fame doesn't buy you immunity from mental health issues or enable you to handle stressful situations any better or worse than the average person. It does however buy you options to deal with it.

An old school friend of mine is a psychotherapist and is really busy still speaking to people struggling to deal with a multitude of lockdown related issues. Walker has options for professional support. I'm sure the club would have given full support as well. The support network might be virtual instead of physical but he has options.

I actually have a lot more sympathy with families being locked down in deprived areas. What options do they have? Precious few.

I get what you're saying but I still think you're being very generous in you assessment, especially after the previous 'party' it's reported he held.

Perhaps I am, however when it comes to mental health issues young adult males are often a group that feel they can access, or feel ashamed about seeking out, help.

So again, I just cant bring myself to judge him badly for it.

comment by Mattyp (U8926)
posted 26 minutes ago
Perhaps I am, however when it comes to mental health issues young adult males are often a group that feel they can access, or feel ashamed about seeking out, help.

So again, I just cant bring myself to judge him badly for it.
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What mental health issues does he have? Are you sure he’s not just saying it to deflect from his actions?

comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 47 seconds ago
comment by Mattyp (U8926)
posted 26 minutes ago
Perhaps I am, however when it comes to mental health issues young adult males are often a group that feel they can access, or feel ashamed about seeking out, help.

So again, I just cant bring myself to judge him badly for it.
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What mental health issues does he have? Are you sure he’s not just saying it to deflect from his actions?
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Unsure, I’ve not seen an assessment of him, and yes he could well be, but that doesn’t change what I’ve written.

However you can fully understand why people are reluctant to seek help when people jump to well he is deflecting as a matter of course.

comment by Mattyp (U8926)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 47 seconds ago
comment by Mattyp (U8926)
posted 26 minutes ago
Perhaps I am, however when it comes to mental health issues young adult males are often a group that feel they can access, or feel ashamed about seeking out, help.

So again, I just cant bring myself to judge him badly for it.
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What mental health issues does he have? Are you sure he’s not just saying it to deflect from his actions?
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Unsure, I’ve not seen an assessment of him, and yes he could well be, but that doesn’t change what I’ve written.

However you can fully understand why people are reluctant to seek help when people jump to well he is deflecting as a matter of course.
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As a matter of course? I’m just putting it out there as a possible reason. It’s not exactly a far fetched idea that his agent has coached him on what to say to try and deflect from his prostitute party, is it?

comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Mattyp (U8926)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 47 seconds ago
comment by Mattyp (U8926)
posted 26 minutes ago
Perhaps I am, however when it comes to mental health issues young adult males are often a group that feel they can access, or feel ashamed about seeking out, help.

So again, I just cant bring myself to judge him badly for it.
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What mental health issues does he have? Are you sure he’s not just saying it to deflect from his actions?
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Unsure, I’ve not seen an assessment of him, and yes he could well be, but that doesn’t change what I’ve written.

However you can fully understand why people are reluctant to seek help when people jump to well he is deflecting as a matter of course.
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As a matter of course? I’m just putting it out there as a possible reason. It’s not exactly a far fetched idea that his agent has coached him on what to say to try and deflect from his prostitute party, is it?
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Oh sorry, I do apologise if that came across as being aimed at you, it wasn’t my intention.

I was more talking about society in general, as stigmatisation of mental health is a huge part of life, particularly when it involves people where there is the view that because they are rich and successful they can’t possibly suffer it.

And yep, he could easily have been coached by his agent, you are right in that regard.

"Perhaps I am, however when it comes to mental health issues young adult males are often a group that feel they can access, or feel ashamed about seeking out, help."

I think you'll find its not just young adults, its known that Men suffer more Mental problems than Women in all age groups!..

Its a case of Men having a problem and holding it back from others, that might have something with the Man thing and being scared of letting others think they've failed!..

I know because I've lived with problems and not even talked to my wife about them, when we tried I just seemed to shut myself away!..

After my wife past away I was forced to seek help, and when you get the proper help its takes a hell of a lot of pressure of you!..

And there are a hell of a lot of people out there with problems that don't realize it!..

What a complete and utter TWIT.

Says he feels he is being harassed.

He seems to be on a one man crusade to prove how selfish and how far removed from reality footballers really are.

He’s now playing the ‘mental well-being’ card in his defence. "At what stage do my feelings get taken into consideration?" he asks.

Ermm, Kyle.... we've got some news for you. The country has gone on lock down to stop the current 31,000 deaths from COVID19 becoming 31 million. Your feelings don't come in to it , you selfish pr1ck.

"I have recently gone through one of the toughest periods of my life, which I take full responsibility for." he bleats.

If being humiliated in the media for being a spoilt brat who thinks the law of the land does not apply to you because you are rich is the toughest you've ever had to deal with... my heart bleeds for you.

Try to imagine how the families of those 31,000 dead people feel.

"I am a human being, with feelings of pain and upset like everybody else. Being in the public eye does not make you immune to this. It is sad, but I feel as though my life is being scrutinised without any context", says Walker.

NEWS FLASH.... being in the public eye doesn't make you immune to the law of the land either!

City don't seem likely to punish him for this latest indiscretion. WHY NOT? It seems to me he is bringing the club's name in to disrepute again.

It would be interesting to know if there are any extenuating circumstances to excuse his behaviour but unless there are; people like myself will be happy to slag him off mercilessly for flagrantly disregarding measures that have been put in place to safeguard all of us.

Rant over