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A tough read

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/52652459

I remember when he played at elland road. Can’t think of too many players who go as much stick as he did.

posted on 21/5/20

brilliant points Germany.

but I do disagree that Redebe would of been as good for Manu over Keane. I just think that was the dynamic of the team, and it worked!


dynamics are an invisible but very powerful force within humans, very complex too, so direct comparisons don't always work.


posted on 21/5/20

VOF - totally agree there mate, 110 %.

yeah the C word has all of a sudden become a term of endearment wierdly, despite it being the most horrible word in the Enhglaish language

posted on 21/5/20

Have any of the 3 a true bully in their teams?..

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Germany, correct there.. but again, its dynamics isn;t it, becasue Klopp is a people's man, what he does works.. he's the Alpha isn't he? - but done in a very different way - which means he won't go sign a Roy Keane anytime soon, it will destroy his dynamic.... same with rabebe and Keano - that was Fergies dynamic.

Bielsa, total opposite to Klopp - how the hell he does what he does is beyond me - he hardly speaks to his players, you wonder if he's got a man in the coaching staff that plays his beta.


Billic? - I havn't a clue, but that man doesn't employ bully boy tactics, I'd be surprised.

posted on 21/5/20

comment by VOF - I can see clearly now.... (U17124)
posted 9 minutes ago

Spanish..... it's about knowing the person you're talking to, albeit we've not met, but I've a good idea where I can push comments like that with you. Would I use that reference for everyone, no way.

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totally agree VOF.. you worked out where you could take a comment with me, and you were correct, this is what happens with lads, and that was laddish behaviour... I think people or confusing laddish behaviour with going around insulting people.

comment by NJS (U8272)

posted on 21/5/20

My dear Lubo...Your Highness...Your Niceness

I was cut to the quick when you didn't invite me to your Coronation to be crowned 'King of the World'...I thought we were friends, you sure know how to hurt my feelings! I thought you might have given me an audience up there in your Ivory Tower? I wanted to thank you for the certificate you sent me, guaranteeing Earthly happiness, free of bullying and promising to eradicate 'ladishness' which I know you think is a great danger to our society.

You said on the certificate I could contact you if I wasn't happy...well I'm not happy, I'm very depressed, my feelings have been hurt by that bounder Mattyp...he called me 'a faceless troll' (I've never been to Norway) and 'bully on the internet'...he's just a nasty bully!
I know you're busy with responsibilities for approx 7 to 8 billion people worldwide, checking on their moral rectitude etc etc, but could you have a word?!

I thought about putting my head in the gas oven I was so depressed but then realised we were on electric.
I couldn't find a rope so I tried string then cellotape, but no success, both broke when I jumped off the chair.
I am trying to manage my mental health after the above jibes and insults, getting help from various sources. A well known jeweller sent me an email two days ago (I bought a gold ring for my nose a few months ago) telling me they had 10 ways to manage my mental health...I emailed them back declining their advise. I told them I try to manage my mental health 365 days a year and don't need to be told by celebrities on tv what to do.

I know you're very busy Your Moral Rectitude with your responsibilities, I can't imagine the burden you carry, it must be awesome...what with a fat girl cutting herself, the guy being bullied in France because of his big nose, the woman in Italy bullied by other women cos she's got a fat belly...the bloke bullied in Brazil by his wife cos he's got a small dick!

Did you see the interview on tv with the footballer on 5million a month, how he was bullied as a child because of his Pink rimmed glasses? Well he cried and I shed tears as well, truly heart rending experience, I identified with him because I was bullied too, those pink rimmed specs depressed me so much, well I changed them for brown rimmed specs and my life changed...I got a girlfriend and she wore brown rimmed specs! It was great but we did have difficulty kissing.

I've decided not to go on the trip with you and Mattyp because I know you will both come down hard on 'ladishness' behaviour...so you can stick your trip to North Korea up your harse!

From your Inferior Servant
NJS

posted on 21/5/20

If it helps, NJS, I read the first few lines and decided the rest wasn't worth it. I'm going to assume it continued in the same overly dramatic tone.

posted on 21/5/20

comment by The Spanish Italians - its all going to end in tears (U21595)
posted 2 hours, 56 minutes ago
VOF... totally agree, brilliant thread, well conducted by everyone too I think
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^^^^^ think you spoke too soon ……..

comment by Mattyp (U8926)

posted on 21/5/20

comment by Lubo - Super Cooper! (U14008)

Honestly, justifying what is bullying by describing it as just the lads is sick, in my opinion. If that is ingrained in society then society clearly has an issue, which is good, as it is definitely a culture that is being moved away from.

Bullying is far too institutionalised within our culture, and that is the inherent problem. Just because it has happened for years doesn't mean it should carry on. This is true of plenty of things that serve as a blight on society and humanity.
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One of the main patterns to abuse is that people who were abused are far more likely to abuse, so if you take the four main types (physical, sexual, emotional and neglect) people who have suffered from these things are more likely to do them, in the most simple of terms its a type coping mechanism.

So people are going to justify it in order to square it in their own heads.

comment by NJS (U8272)

posted on 21/5/20

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posted on 21/5/20

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comment by The Spanish Italians - its all going to end in tears (U21595)
posted 2 hours, 56 minutes ago
VOF... totally agree, brilliant thread, well conducted by everyone too I think
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^^^^^ think you spoke too soon ……..


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