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RACISM AND MAKING A STANCE

Once again, it’s all the talk on the news and in the headlines, following the sickening events in America and the unnecessary death of George Floyd

It seems the clap for the NHS is being being replaced now by the kneel in support for George Floyd...one wonders what the next one will be

Well, I won’t be kneeling, because however tragic and unnecessary this death was, I’m not going to jump on a bandwagon of using this situation of almost making this guy some kind of martyr or saint? Don’t get me wrong, I was totally appalled at what took place and the abuse of the police officers towards that poor guy, what a horrid and tragic way to die

But ALL lives matter, irrespective of colour, gender, age, faith and creed etc it’s not just about George Floyd...how many around the world unjustly die or suffer on a daily basis....millions I suspect

Why does it take an event like this suddenly jolt us into action, is it because it was so public, or that the media have begun to run with it? Are we just being played once again by the media circus?

To be honest, whether it be a clap or a kneel, it feels like yet just another heartless gimmick to make ourselves feel as though we’re making a stance...the truth is, we’re not really, in 3 months time...probably less, this’ll
just be old news, and be mainly forgotten

So, how do we make a stance...does kneeling really have an effect, or are we just trying to ease our conscience by doing something together?

I despise what happened to George Floyd, but no more no less at what happens in countless other cases around world when anyone suffers unnecessarily at the hands of those with power

And I won’t silently watch on as those who use this event to cause violence, or loot, or destroy property or vent their frustration unlawfully into somehow thinking they’ve a right to do this or that it’s somehow justifiable? Those that do these things, in my eyes are no better than the police officers in the video. Yet we’re made to feel or believe that it’s more acceptable for them to do this because they’re supposedly using this situation to make a stance?

We live in a confused and sick world

posted on 4/6/20

comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 1 hour, 53 minutes ago
Black lives matter is some kind of positive racism, - why do they matter any more than anyone else...& why do they need to keep telling us so

What if there was a white lives matter campaign...oh then there'd be trouble.

Same as things like the black actors guild, or the Black lawyers association...how is this allowed.







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This is moronic. Would you go to a breast cancer awareness event and start complaining about the lack of of focus on lung cancer? When people say we need to save the amazon rainforest do you ask people to think about the other rainforests too?

It isn't black lives matter more, it's not only black lives matter. It's black lives matter too - and they need to keep saying this because a lot of the time black lives are treated as if they don't matter.

All lives can't matter until black lives matter.
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Hmmm.

I live in a 99% white country so how does that work here?

posted on 4/6/20

Who said black lives don't matter, Christopher?

When was that the White view here?

Do you assume white America thinks blacks don't matter, as that is racist right there.

Cops kill whites too....whites are poor too.

You are going to sit people more and white people who back you when a cop kills a black guy will start to go, what about us???

posted on 4/6/20

White guys are the minority in many sports,
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What is this based on?

posted on 4/6/20

I have no clue what you're talking about tbab

posted on 4/6/20

That said, BLM members yesterday said the NHS was racist against black covid patients in favour of white ones, so beware their message too.

Black people are attacking white innocent by standard and cops for the crimes of four cops, two of whom ain't white btw.

BLM want white folk to pay reparations for slavery to them, so you go first kneerash, mate lol
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What is this based on Bluebells. You got a link?

posted on 4/6/20

"Never said it was."

You implied that there were no need for protests now that all 4 officers had been arrested.

"Crowds breaking covid advice is dangerous too, if black lives matter, right?"

This is a complicated problem and I understand why people would be torn on it

"When a black cop shoots a white guy, is it racist?"

How am I supposed to deal with this hypothetical ffs

"If a black cop shoots a black guy, is it racist."

How am I supposed to deal with hypothetical either ffs

"Was Floyd killed because the cop hated black folk?"

I don't know, maybe, but it is atleast indicative of the fact that the police in america do not treat black people the same way they treat white people. I think that's pretty clear, unless you think chauvin would have killed a white person for using a fake $20 bill.

"I live in a 99% white country so how does that work here?"

What? Why does that matter?

"Who said black lives don't matter, Christopher?"

The instiutational racism they face suggests it.

"When was that the White view here?"

I'm not saying that all white people think black lives dont matter.

"Do you assume white America thinks blacks don't matter, as that is racist right there."

No I don't, stop looking for crappy reverse racism arguments like you always do

"Cops kill whites too....whites are poor too."

Black people made up a quarter of those killed by police last year in the US despite making up less than 13% of the population.

"You are going to sit people more and white people who back you when a cop kills a black guy will start to go, what about us???"

I literally don't know what this means

posted on 4/6/20

comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 3 hours, 3 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 16 minutes ago
Black lives matter is some kind of positive racism, - why do they matter any more than anyone else...& why do they need to keep telling us so

What if there was a white lives matter campaign...oh then there'd be trouble.

Same as things like the black actors guild, or the Black lawyers association...how is this allowed.







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You're missing the point mate.
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I get it, but elaborate.

White guys are the minority in many sports, so so there be white football or boxing or athletic unions now?

Just as an example.

We have black pride days and events, but you ever suggest a white pride or cultural event, lol?

When Megan has a white dad and black mom, she is called black.....the white patent is airbrushed out.

Just little examples of the new normal.
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That is such a good explanation 👍🏼

posted on 4/6/20

comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 39 minutes ago
No one is claiming white people don't face issues in life or haven't had hard lives, but black people face more prejudice than white people do on a daily basis.

If so many Black people are angry then it's probably worth listening to them.
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I concur again.

One thing though, now with all cops charged there is no need to risk covid with mass crowds and already we have seen insane mobs packed together, so second spike due soon.
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It was never just about george floyd and those 4 officers though.
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Never said it was.

Crowds breaking covid advice is dangerous too, if black lives matter, right?

When a black cop shoots a white guy, is it racist?

If a black cop shoots a black guy, is it racist.

Was Floyd killed because the cop hated black folk?
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Very important questions, that so often just get missed out, or when they are asked, you’re called a racist - it’s a messed up society we life in

posted on 4/6/20

comment by ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe (U22182)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 39 minutes ago
No one is claiming white people don't face issues in life or haven't had hard lives, but black people face more prejudice than white people do on a daily basis.

If so many Black people are angry then it's probably worth listening to them.
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I concur again.

One thing though, now with all cops charged there is no need to risk covid with mass crowds and already we have seen insane mobs packed together, so second spike due soon.
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It was never just about george floyd and those 4 officers though.
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Never said it was.

Crowds breaking covid advice is dangerous too, if black lives matter, right?

When a black cop shoots a white guy, is it racist?

If a black cop shoots a black guy, is it racist.

Was Floyd killed because the cop hated black folk?
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Very important questions, that so often just get missed out, or when they are asked, you’re called a racist - it’s a messed up society we life in
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Its not he first time he's asked those questions and he's been answered twice now without being called racist. No need to make sheet up.

posted on 4/6/20

comment by Jurgen Klopp (U1282)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
comment by ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe (U22182)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 39 minutes ago
No one is claiming white people don't face issues in life or haven't had hard lives, but black people face more prejudice than white people do on a daily basis.

If so many Black people are angry then it's probably worth listening to them.
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I concur again.

One thing though, now with all cops charged there is no need to risk covid with mass crowds and already we have seen insane mobs packed together, so second spike due soon.
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It was never just about george floyd and those 4 officers though.
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Never said it was.

Crowds breaking covid advice is dangerous too, if black lives matter, right?

When a black cop shoots a white guy, is it racist?

If a black cop shoots a black guy, is it racist.

Was Floyd killed because the cop hated black folk?
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Very important questions, that so often just get missed out, or when they are asked, you’re called a racist - it’s a messed up society we life in
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Its not he first time he's asked those questions and he's been answered twice now without being called racist. No need to make sheet up.
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I was speaking generally

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