The big managerial rivalry gets started again tonight in Manchester.
Who is the better manager though?
I'll be honest. I think Klopp's achievements, whilst numerically less, mean more than Pep's. He won it all at Barca and dominated domestically with Bayern and City but he was set up to do that.
Klopp was set up to fail at LFC in so many ways. Their squad, their mentality, their transfer dealings and so on.
Pep walked into a dressing room at City that had Aguero, Silva, KDB, Kompany, Zabaleta, Clichy who had already won numerous titles.
Klopp took over an absolute shower of sh1t4 at Liverpool and he's turned it around. He seems to excel at taking a team who are huge underdogs and winning major trophies with them, look at what happened with Dortmund for example.
Another way I look at this is I think if Pep took over Juve, they'd win the league. If Klopp took over Juve he would also win the league but he'd win the Champions League too.
BUT
If Pep took over Napoli, they'd come second. If Klopp took over Napoli, he would win them the title before he left.
Thoughts??
The Klopp vs Pep Rivalry
posted on 2/7/20
The 2 of them are the best in the business. The Prem should be proud to have these 2 battling it out for the top prizes.
posted on 2/7/20
comment by ShamelessObserver (U22372)
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comment by CurrentlyStuckIntheUK (U11181)
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Has Klopp managed to sustain success at his previous clubs?
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He defended the title in Germany and won another cup
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So he has yet to prove he can sustain success.
posted on 2/7/20
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posted on 2/7/20
comment by Poolmyfinger - CHAMP19NS! (U12438)
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comment by CurrentlyStuckIntheUK (U11181)
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comment by ShamelessObserver (U22372)
posted 52 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyStuckIntheUK (U11181)
posted 9 minutes ago
Has Klopp managed to sustain success at his previous clubs?
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He defended the title in Germany and won another cup
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So he has yet to prove he can sustain success.
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Are you on dope?
On your logic, Pep hasn't sustained success either
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That's your logic, not mine.
He was at Dortmund for 7 years and at Mainz for about 7 as well. At Mainz he did well, missed out on promotion twice before getting them promoted, then led the team to finish 11th twice. Then relegatied and failed to get them promotion before leaving them.
He was hired at Dortmund in 2008. He won the league in 2011 and did the double in 2012. Other than that (excluding super cups) he didn't win anything else at Dortmund.
Pep won 3 leagues out of 4 under Barca, won the leagues under Bayern and 2 out of 4 at City so far.
What Klopp has now that he didn't have at his previous clubs is the chance to now sustain that success.
posted on 2/7/20
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - PL Champione (U1108)
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comment by ShamelessObserver (U22372)
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comment by der kloppites Hi, wie geht es dir * (U13373)
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good points shameless
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Pep is the type of guy who nails every girl on his street, even if some are just OK.
Jurgen nails less, but the girls he nails are in long term relationships with other men and are supermodels.
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Pep pays for his women who have already been around the block
Klopp works on his and makes them supermodels
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Klopp pimps his own to get Pep;s ones
Klopp looks like a perve too!
posted on 2/7/20
Pep took an underachieving Barcelona side and made it the greatest ever. Yes, that Barcelona side might have been star-studded, but it wasn't doing well at all and he made it great, by kicking out some big names and giving certain (primarily youth) players a new chance or a new role. The system he created was immensely successful and they played some beautiful football.
posted on 2/7/20
Pep was very much on the defensive in his presser when he made reference to all his titles.
It smacked of mourinho with his three titles.
In the end we need to say that Pep is a great manager and coach.
His actions at the outset for Barca for example were huge for their success. he (or the directors) dropped the hammer on ronaldinho, deco and e'tto. Thats huge, and he brought in busquets. etc.
Barca's later success was built on what pep and Begiristain did over the period. they have since utterly trashed themselves even from before MSN with poor midfield and defensive options.
Pep then didn't do quite as well at Bayern but won titles but not in europe (I don't think quite he had that same impact personally)
Klopp spent 7 years at mainz and 7 years at dortmund and now 7 years at LFC. He's broken the strangle hold of 2 dominant clubs in leagues and reached 3 CL finals.
Better is a harsh way to deal with either of these guys. They are iconic and deserve every accolade.
Klopp will say congratulations and see you next year.
Pep will say congratulations but look at me and what I did.
posted on 2/7/20
They're both well suited to the jobs they have.
As much as Pep won't be suited to the jobs Klopp has had, i'm not convinced Jurgen would suit a job where it's win or failure no grey area.
posted on 2/7/20
Don’t get the obsession with trying to compare them. Just enjoy watching the football they each get their sides playing.
If Klopp was at City and Pep was at Liverpool both sets of fans would be making similar arguments as to why their coach was “better”.
posted on 3/7/20
Just read that Pep has only failed to win the domestic title 3 times out of 11 in his career so far.