Where will Poch manage next?

comment by CurrentlyStuckIntheUK (U11181)
posted 23 hours, 49 minutes ago
comment by rosso - for your protection, we’ve insta... (U17054)
posted 2 hours, 8 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyStuckIntheUK (U11181)
posted 5 minutes ago
I don't think he's sitting around waiting for the United job. If it did become available, he'd want it. The issue with him is that he was more of a head coach at Spurs than a manager. Without a DoF, he'd walk into disaster at United.
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United managers are little more than head coaches in the current era.
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Maybe the case previously. Doesn't seem to be so currently.
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Ole has no authority over the football development or the Academy system. Nicky Butt reports into John Murtough, who sits alongside Ole in the management structure. Murtough is also responsible for data science and various other bits.

Court, Lawler and Bout report into Ed through Judge, so Ole doesn’t have line managerial authority over the scouting system either.

As for transfers, Ole is part of a committee along with the Judge’s recruitment team and several other football experts that work on Ole’s team’s list of priorities by position. Decisionmaking is done by committee.

Woodward: “The manager has a veto on a player - we would never sign a player the manager wouldn't want because he wouldn't play him. But we also feel the recruitment department, the football experts, should have a veto too.”

Ole isn’t managing the sporting side of the club like Fergie did. He doesn’t have the same level of authority or managerial responsibility.

Worth reminding people that not too long ago, Woodward vetoed Mourinho transfer targets on the advice of other members of the transfer committee.

Worth reminding people that not too long ago, Woodward vetoed Mourinho transfer targets on the advice of other members of the transfer committee.

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Who did he veto.

Woodward:

“It is true that there was a difference of opinion on one or two players between the manager and the recruitment department.

“ Sometimes I have to be one who delivers the ‘no’, which isn’t easy, because our natural tendency is to back the manager in every possible circumstance, but we have to listen to the recruitment experts too.”

Ed didn’t name names, but Aldeweireld and Boateng were reportedly two, as well as Mina based on the asking price.

There were also rumours that Maguire was vetoed too, and Mourinho has hinted the same without explicitly saying it, before we signed him 12 months later.

Apparently Boateng and Aldeweireld were seen as short term fixes. Whilst Sanchez, of course, was not

I think the most scary thing here with Ed is his reliability on Judge who we can tell from his actions is utterly clueless of a players worth when it comes to contracts or transfer fees.

If I was this incompetent in my line of work I wouldn’t be employed.

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 22 minutes ago
This is one of those rarities where I agree with the Sandy.

There are some on the United board that think Poch is the second coming despite contrary evidence.

Yes he did well at Spurs but he should have done so much better in a period where United, Arsenal and Chelsea were off the boil from their normal.
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Nonsense. You're acting like Spurs were a club used to winning stuff and as financially well off as those clubs. Lower net spend than any of them and a smaller squad of players to choose from. Unlucky to come up against a Chelsea team with no European football. Then City took charge as the dominant team. Plus we had to change ground at a time when we made WHL a fortress.

Poch did very well considering, and the real issue at Spurs was always above him.

Nonsense. You're acting like Spurs were a club used to winning stuff

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If you think that is the best you could have done then that is up to you. You are know for being a moron.

Leicester won the title in this period. United despite being utterly crap managed three trophies.

Spurtle is correct.

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 22 minutes ago
Nonsense. You're acting like Spurs were a club used to winning stuff

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If you think that is the best you could have done then that is up to you. You are know for being a moron.

Leicester won the title in this period. United despite being utterly crap managed three trophies.
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That's because United are used to winning stuff and they spent an absolute fortune in that time.

Do you not understand that Spurs were not even supposed to be in a title challenge in that season Leicester lifted the trophy? Nobody expected that of them, whereas everyone expected the teams you mentioned to do well. For some reason doing better than expected is seen as some sort of a failure.

Could he have achieved more? Yes, but the idea that he should have done so much better at Spurs around this time to me is like saying Pep should be doing so much better at City because he hasn't got near winning the CL.

Honestly, the cheek of saying I'm known as being a moron.