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Can Lampard

... turn around our defensive woes? Will we ever work on our set piece defending? Do we need to bring Terry in as a defensive coach?

I think that defensive signings are a must, first off. LB and GK are priorities but even with those happening is Lampard capable of improving us defensively? I have yet to see proof of it. Our defense is the equivalent of single ply toilet paper trying to tackle a bout of the squirts.

I have no worries about our offense for next season but we cannot realistically hope to improve much farther than 3rd if we do not find some solidification in the back end.

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posted on 9/8/20

comment by Sideshow (U11809)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
I don't think a defensive coach would help.

Our defensive frailties are the result of an imbalanced attacking set-up. When we're organised and playing a low block we can defend relatively well as a team. What we've looked hopeless this season defending is transitions. Whether Lampard can amend this or not will ultimately decide his future at the club, but he deserves next season to find out.
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I don't see how a defensive coach wouldn't help. Do you think these players are playing at their max potential? Do you see our set pieces as being "as good as it can get"?

posted on 9/8/20

What I meant by that is that it is oversimplifying our problems in defence by reducing it to the notion that "Lampard knows how to get us to attack, but is clueless when it comes to defending" because they are interconnected. It comes down to Lampard's fundamental approach to games rather than seeing it as one isolated aspect. We can only hope it improves with the right personal otherwise Lampard's a gooner.

That's not to say that bringing in specialist coaches is not worth doing. Liverpool brought in a throw-in expert and have benefited from that. But it is a bit futile in the bigger picture if the system itself is flawed.

posted on 9/8/20

The system is flawed because of the lack in ability that we had this season. Probably couldve been defensively more solid if we were less Gung ho in attack. The numbers we threw forward always meant we would leave the defense exposed. So it was a matter of choosing between sitting back defending well and likely not being able to score so ending up with boring draws and uninspiring matches OR what we saw this season. And what we saw brought us CL football for next season.

We did have many individual errors as well and that shouldn't be discounted. But in bringing in someone to shore up set pieces, which is just pathetic and seemingly worse each game, we could figure out who the weak link in defense really is. We do not look organized. We don't seem to have a clue. That shouldn't take more than an entire season to figure out.

Next season the pressure will be on. With each signing the expectations will rise. Lampard needs to show us he has learned from this season.

posted on 9/8/20

Set pieces I agree on. We are equally appalling in both boxes. I don't expect Allardyce level dedication to them, but it is clear we do furk all work on them in training.


posted on 9/8/20

Very true. Once we get into the final 3rd we lose all ability for creative thought and become very static. Sideways, backwards, sideways, hold onto it allowing defenders to compose themselves, hopeless cross, nobody near it, give up cheap goal on the counter.

posted on 9/8/20

Who thinks this playing out from the back at all cost will bring success. we keep playing our defenders into costly mistakes in dangerous areas. sometimes a boot into touch should be preferred. I would love to see us attempt to bring bak Steve Clarke to fix our defence, it was him not JT behind our defensive stability for years.

posted on 9/8/20

Another good point. Attempting to play it out every single time drives me crazy. We don't have the players for that obviously.

The counter argument though is that we have the worst headerers ever in the team and basically only Giroud and Tammy can bring it down. Tammy barely. So we entirely just give up possession every time we lump it up. Albeit in a less dangerous poison.

posted on 10/8/20

We were good at it under Sarri

posted on 10/8/20

Vava,
A good point about Steve Clarke,he would make a difference I'm sure.Something drastic has to be done ,I don't know if my heart could take another season of defending like we've just had !

comment by T.J (U15973)

posted on 10/8/20

comment by Sideshow (U11809)
posted 3 hours, 5 minutes ago
We were good at it under Sarri
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Helped having a ball playing CB - Luiz. The current lot are not the most comfortable in possesion. Plus Jorginho played nearly every game under Sarri and he's pretty decent at playing from the back also.

We don't really have a target man next season if Werner is leading the line so they're going to play from the back more regularly.

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