Why Do You Guys Do This To Yourselves?

We surely have more thick fans than any other team on this site, drownin' in 'em.

I'm genuinely surprised at how satisfied fans are with the development of this team in recent years. Sure we won the FA cup, but we've been getting progressively worse. Bar the signing of Aubameyang (jury is out for Pepe & Tierney) you can't claim we've signed any top class players. We've been out of the Champions League for a while now too.

Would say the jury is decided on Tierney actually, he's clearly a very good footballer.

Pepe has shown he has a lot of quality too and stats wise has had a decent first season, especially given the disruption to it.

I'm genuinely surprised at how satisfied fans are with the development of this team in recent years.
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No-one is happy with the development. Hence why Wenger and then Emery left us.
We have, though, made a lot of changes to all levels of the way the club is run. We have to give time for the mistakes of the past to stop hindering the future.

However, it is undeniable that we have made some good, hopefully long term, signings. We have also made some short term signings that we all raise our eyebrows too, but many of us know it isn't a quick fix.

If you look at a lot of our signings they are long term. Some haven't worked out for reasons other than quality (Guen - discipline, Torriera - crybaby) but we have signed a lot of young talent - Leno (relative to his position), Saliba, Tierney, Martinelli, Pepe the aforementioned two who are sadly on the way out, as well as trying to integrate academy players into the first team. Good chance we will continue to do this.

comment by Globaled (U7198)
posted 2 hours, 25 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 46 minutes ago
Globaled (U7198)

I am not sure you comprehend the gravity of our financial issues. It was impossible to have a clear out before covid. Even more so afterwards. Ozil, Sok, Mustafi, Kolas contracts are all coming to a natural end next season. And they are all earning well in excess of £5m each. Ozil, 3 times that. Thats abt £40m a season. This is what we lose every season while we are out of the Champions League. Can you imagine if didn't have European football at all? Thats what would happened had we not won the Fa Cup.
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Jenius,
If he players mentioned are a detriment to the team then you cut them loose. Just like you would like your dentist to remove that rotten tooth that is causing you so much pain.

btw: This purging does not have to be done all at once and again needs timing/planning/vision.
Certainly an immediate "good-bye" to Ozil would be a good start and might get the attention of other "non-performers"!
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Because that would require paying of their contract. Which is the same thing as keeping them till the end of their contract. While they are contracted we can use them.

Maybe, maybe, as much as it pains me to say this, if we can't get rid we should tell Ozil he's going to be used in Europa/League Cup only and that we want him to give his all to lead the youth/reserve players around him in those matches and win us the Europa. We would need to play a formation and tactics that suit him and it would require his 100% buy in to give his all one last time to stand a chance of succeeding.

comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 4 hours, 52 minutes ago
comment by Globaled (U7198)
posted 2 hours, 25 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 46 minutes ago
Globaled (U7198)

I am not sure you comprehend the gravity of our financial issues. It was impossible to have a clear out before covid. Even more so afterwards. Ozil, Sok, Mustafi, Kolas contracts are all coming to a natural end next season. And they are all earning well in excess of £5m each. Ozil, 3 times that. Thats abt £40m a season. This is what we lose every season while we are out of the Champions League. Can you imagine if didn't have European football at all? Thats what would happened had we not won the Fa Cup.
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Jenius,
If he players mentioned are a detriment to the team then you cut them loose. Just like you would like your dentist to remove that rotten tooth that is causing you so much pain.

btw: This purging does not have to be done all at once and again needs timing/planning/vision.
Certainly an immediate "good-bye" to Ozil would be a good start and might get the attention of other "non-performers"!
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Because that would require paying of their contract. Which is the same thing as keeping them till the end of their contract. While they are contracted we can use them.
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I don't understand the logic? We have to pay them either way! Those who are a negative influence should not be kept around. Arsenal can send them their paycheck!

comment by Globaled (U7198)
posted 6 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 4 hours, 52 minutes ago
comment by Globaled (U7198)
posted 2 hours, 25 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 46 minutes ago
Globaled (U7198)

I am not sure you comprehend the gravity of our financial issues. It was impossible to have a clear out before covid. Even more so afterwards. Ozil, Sok, Mustafi, Kolas contracts are all coming to a natural end next season. And they are all earning well in excess of £5m each. Ozil, 3 times that. Thats abt £40m a season. This is what we lose every season while we are out of the Champions League. Can you imagine if didn't have European football at all? Thats what would happened had we not won the Fa Cup.
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Jenius,
If he players mentioned are a detriment to the team then you cut them loose. Just like you would like your dentist to remove that rotten tooth that is causing you so much pain.

btw: This purging does not have to be done all at once and again needs timing/planning/vision.
Certainly an immediate "good-bye" to Ozil would be a good start and might get the attention of other "non-performers"!
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Because that would require paying of their contract. Which is the same thing as keeping them till the end of their contract. While they are contracted we can use them.
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I don't understand the logic? We have to pay them either way! Those who are a negative influence should not be kept around. Arsenal can send them their paycheck!
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Sell a few thousand Ozil shirts in Turkey next season. Sokratis, Mustafi and Kolsanic are reserve defenders. We have loads of injuries every season and next season there will be a lot of calender congestion. There is absolutely no point releasing players if we save no money by doing it.

comment by You Can't Buy Class - IDHT2EU (U12019)
posted 16 hours, 25 minutes ago
Would say the jury is decided on Tierney actually, he's clearly a very good footballer.

Pepe has shown he has a lot of quality too and stats wise has had a decent first season, especially given the disruption to it.
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Tierney is a good player. But he's still not an established player. We don't know how he'll turn out.

Pepe is also a good player, who I think will do very well next season.

Tierney is a very established player, he established himself at Celtic and he's been our best/most reliable defender this season.