Boycotting United’s Sponsors

comment by RipleysCat (U1862)
posted 3 hours, 47 minutes ago
On another note, loving all this talk about mass gatherings.

I’m not too familiar with those, being a City fan
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Are you saying you're all godless heathens? Or even worse, prodddies?

Tbf I've questioned the extent of the protests, in terms of being willing to prevent your team from playing football. I think that's a line you shouldn't cross, in terms of the whole ethos of being a football fan.

But regardless of the club, I really don't get fans of rival clubs mocking these protests.

The reason for the protests is clear and I don't think FSG having presided over success should be ignored in terms of furloughing, signing up for a Super League etc should be ignored. These cowboys are just as bad as Hicks and Gillette. You are just too stupid to see it because you won things under these owners. Be better than that, look at what they are doing.

Don't mock behaviour that deep down you approve of but don't think affects you. It does

These cowboys are just as bad as Hicks and Gillette.
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comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 19 minutes ago
These cowboys are just as bad as Hicks and Gillette.
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Aren't they? Nah they won the league. They also furloughed your players and tried to join a European Super League, whilst putting none of their own dollars into your club. But they won stuff. So they're good. Unlike mean old Hicks and Gillette, who didn't win anything. And that annoyed you

comment by merrysupersteve (monitoring the situation) (U1132)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 19 minutes ago
These cowboys are just as bad as Hicks and Gillette.
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Aren't they? Nah they won the league. They also furloughed your players and tried to join a European Super League, whilst putting none of their own dollars into your club. But they won stuff. So they're good. Unlike mean old Hicks and Gillette, who didn't win anything. And that annoyed you
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You interpreted an awful lot from Term’s there

comment by merrysupersteve (monitoring the situation) (U1132)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 19 minutes ago
These cowboys are just as bad as Hicks and Gillette.
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Aren't they? Nah they won the league. They also furloughed your players and tried to join a European Super League, whilst putting none of their own dollars into your club. But they won stuff. So they're good. Unlike mean old Hicks and Gillette, who didn't win anything. And that annoyed you
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They’re not even remotely like H and G. They’ve made mistakes obviously, but no matter what the industry, owners of multi billion dollar businesses will do, probably on a regular basis. But most of those mistakes revolve around the fact that they’re trying to make us self sustainable. They haven’t taken a penny out of the club, they’ve provided the club with interest free loans for redevelopment. And yes, we’ve won stuff.

Personally, I think they’re great owners. I couldn’t care less about the mistakes, they’ve rectified each and every one of them.

I actually thought your original post was just a drunken rant, but you’re clearly just peeved that our owners are nothing like Uniteds.

comment by merrysupersteve (monitoring the situation) (U1132)
posted 7 hours, 32 minutes ago
Tbf I've questioned the extent of the protests, in terms of being willing to prevent your team from playing football. I think that's a line you shouldn't cross, in terms of the whole ethos of being a football fan.

But regardless of the club, I really don't get fans of rival clubs mocking these protests.

The reason for the protests is clear and I don't think FSG having presided over success should be ignored in terms of furloughing, signing up for a Super League etc should be ignored. These cowboys are just as bad as Hicks and Gillette. You are just too stupid to see it because you won things under these owners. Be better than that, look at what they are doing.

Don't mock behaviour that deep down you approve of but don't think affects you. It does
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It both blows my mind and breaks my heart, but I think there are a lot of fans of the traitorous six who either don’t understand or just don’t care about what the owners of their clubs are hell bent on doing with the game.

English professional football clubs have entered into administration over 40 times since the PL was inaugurated. It has happened five times in the last 24 months. The five clubs in question could have avoided that fate if they’d been able to share between them the dividends the Glazers paid themselves in Q1 2021.

This monopolisation of the revenue potential of the football pyramid has to stop, or competitive football as we know it will be consigned to the history books in a matter of a couple of decades.

Rosso

No we understand thanks. Safe to say our owners got the message about the fans feelings on the ESL. Should they propose it again the they’ll know our feelings a lot more. However I see no point, from our clubs perspective, in throwing the baby out with the bath water.

Other clubs going into administration is down to irresponsible club owners by and large. There are meant to be fit and proper persons tests for this sort of thing, the authorities don’t appear to use them.

What the Glazers pay themselves is an issue between them and the fans of United, same with the stadium situation.

Who is it that administers where revenue flows and where is goes in the football pyramid? Isn’t it down to the FA to ensure revenue comes from the top of the tree down?

comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 22 minutes ago
Rosso

No we understand thanks. Safe to say our owners got the message about the fans feelings on the ESL. Should they propose it again the they’ll know our feelings a lot more. However I see no point, from our clubs perspective, in throwing the baby out with the bath water.

Other clubs going into administration is down to irresponsible club owners by and large. There are meant to be fit and proper persons tests for this sort of thing, the authorities don’t appear to use them.

What the Glazers pay themselves is an issue between them and the fans of United, same with the stadium situation.

Who is it that administers where revenue flows and where is goes in the football pyramid? Isn’t it down to the FA to ensure revenue comes from the top of the tree down?
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I wasn’t aiming that at all fans of your or any other club. I know that some get it.

“Other clubs going into administration is down to irresponsible club owners by and large.”

That’s like arguing that the poverty that working class people in post-industrial northern towns find themselves in is down to irresponsible spending. It isn’t true, and it isn’t fair.

There are clubs with 100 years of history in dire straits and on their way out because the big boys have relentlessly and unapologetically demanded larger and larger and larger slices of the pie. Compare what the revenue share looked like across the league’s clubs in 1992, and what it looks like now.

To quote Refused, they don’t just want airtime, they want all of the time, all of the time.

They’ll vote against increasing the pitiful (and let’s face it, insulting) solidarity payments; they’ll bargain as hard as they can to boost TV rights deals at the expense of the lower leagues; they’ll use the PL to threaten the FA; they’ll refuse to fairly compensate lower league clubs when they poach their youngsters (even fighting them over compensation fees); they’ll even stab the rest of the PL clubs in the back with zero warning to increase their market share.

These owners have no interest whatsoever in the history or traditions of the English game, and no interest in the football pyramid or fair competition. They’re hardened, soulless, unapologetic apex capitalists, and they won’t be happy until they’ve imported a franchise model that allows them to swan around the world playing glorified friendlies in different stadia every week.

That’s where the real pot of gold lies, and they won’t be happy until they have their grubby mitts in it.

These owners have no interest whatsoever in the history or traditions of the English game, and no interest in the football pyramid or fair competition. They’re hardened, soulless, unapologetic apex capitalists, and they won’t be happy until they’ve imported a franchise model that allows them to swan around the world playing glorified friendlies in different stadia every week.
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This is exactly how it is.

And with a worldwide 'TV Fan' audience of billions, the so called, indigenous, 'Legacy Supporters, mostly from the British Isles but a few from abroad, many with family a personal heritage and connections with the Greater Manchester area are very much in a tiny minority these days. And yet these are the 'visible' few supporters; the ones who pay to fill Old Trafford each week, who come rain or shine, win or lose, who sing the songs, to create the passion and the atmosphere, of the whole match day package (that ironically, some 'TV Fans' lament about not receiving in full for their subscription buck during these Covid times). They are the supporters who pay to park their cars and buy the bovril, the pies and match programmes, And these supporters are also in the main the ones to protest when things go bad and take the flack for it. Yet the ones who everybody expects to line the streets of Manchester to greet trophy parades. and ones to stand in silence in Munich week to 'keep the Red Flag flying high'.

Just reading the nonsense and bile spewing out of these and other social media pages since the home defeats vs Leicester and Liverpool and since the American owners ESL treachery and subsequent protest, has made me realise anyway, of the vast divide and expectations and goals between these opposed sections of Man United fans/supporters where quite obviously, never the twain shall ever meet.