Erik Ten Haag

comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by ABC Jelly (U22709)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by Ace (U22467)
posted 8 minutes ago
ETH or Potter would’ve been perfect for us. I just cannot warm to the Nuno appointment and it’s gonna take more than a win over a relegation level Newcastle side to erase the memory of those Palace and NLD games. I’m trying to be patient and hope that he does the business, but I’m not gonna lie and say I’m invested in him as our manager or that I think he’ll go on to do good things with us because I just don’t see it working out that way - he’s a huge pragmatist and leopards don’t change their spots. I think he’ll deliver mediocrity in terms of performance and results and not be here this time next year.
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I agree. The win over this Newcastle team means nothing. The victory over Villa was decent though.

I’m struggling to warm to the Nuno appointment as well, simply because I think we needed a more progressive, longer term and less divisive appointment, especially after Mourinho and we got none of that. The other thing really bothering me about it, is if the reports are true that Paratici didn’t want the likes of ETH or Fonseca because he thought they were too expansive and attacking, I do worry a little about the stylistic footballing direction of the club.
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It begs the question why, when the direction Levy wanted to take the club in was towards attacking, flowing football again, did we appoint a DOF who isn't a fan of it, to help guide us going forward? It's as if no research was done. Already it caused conflict during the managerial search with one party wanting one manager and the other party deciding against it. I fear it could cause more problems in the future as well.
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Completely. Given Levy’s stated aims surely it would have made more sense going for someone like Luis Campos, or better yet, backed and trusted Paul Mitchell’s judgment when we had him. That’s not to say I don’t think Paratici isn’t good at his job, he clearly had a lot of success at Juventus, and I don’t agree with those people who try and downplay his role in Juve’s revival and credit Moratta for all of it, but the dynamics of it seem really off.

comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Edinpotter (U1109)
posted 1 minute ago
I don’t think DOFs are as easy to predict successes/failures like managers - way too many variables
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I don't know how we came to hire Paratici but clearly there's been quite a difference of opinion between he and Levy that it makes you wonder how he was hired to begin with.
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I'm guessing Levy was impressed with Paratici when we were on verge of signing Dybala. There must have been lots of communication between two. Levy himself said he was impressed with Paratici whenever he dealt him.

My worry with Paratici, assuming he has control over footballing decisions, is that if this whole Nuno experiment does fail, his instincts will see him go for another pragmatic manager. By hiring him, we've committed to quite a long stretch of uninspiring, defensively-minded queue of managers.

It might work out, none of us know, but my instinct is that having had a taste of it under Poch, the progressive 'footballing' coach is the way forward for this club, or any club for that matter. The game has changed. Players want to be inspired these days. The George Graham days are long gone. I feel we're going backwards really and no highly expected victory over Villa or Newcastle is gonna change that.

comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 2 minutes ago
My worry with Paratici, assuming he has control over footballing decisions, is that if this whole Nuno experiment does fail, his instincts will see him go for another pragmatic manager. By hiring him, we've committed to quite a long stretch of uninspiring, defensively-minded queue of managers.

It might work out, none of us know, but my instinct is that having had a taste of it under Poch, the progressive 'footballing' coach is the way forward for this club, or any club for that matter. The game has changed. Players want to be inspired these days. The George Graham days are long gone. I feel we're going backwards really and no highly expected victory over Villa or Newcastle is gonna change that.
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I don’t think it’s quite true to say that the era of pragmatic and mor cautious minded managers is over. Simeone continues to have a huge amount of success at Atletico, then you have Conte, and also the likes of Niko Kovac who did really well at Frankfurt, is doing another good job at Monaco and was in my opinion unfairly treated at Bayern, and even in “failing” there he still continued their successive run of title wins.

Having said that I do agree that with Spurs we need a holistic identity at the club and it needs to be based around progressive expansive football which I think serves the club best.

comment by ABC Jelly (U22709)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by ABC Jelly (U22709)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by Ace (U22467)
posted 8 minutes ago
ETH or Potter would’ve been perfect for us. I just cannot warm to the Nuno appointment and it’s gonna take more than a win over a relegation level Newcastle side to erase the memory of those Palace and NLD games. I’m trying to be patient and hope that he does the business, but I’m not gonna lie and say I’m invested in him as our manager or that I think he’ll go on to do good things with us because I just don’t see it working out that way - he’s a huge pragmatist and leopards don’t change their spots. I think he’ll deliver mediocrity in terms of performance and results and not be here this time next year.
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I agree. The win over this Newcastle team means nothing. The victory over Villa was decent though.

I’m struggling to warm to the Nuno appointment as well, simply because I think we needed a more progressive, longer term and less divisive appointment, especially after Mourinho and we got none of that. The other thing really bothering me about it, is if the reports are true that Paratici didn’t want the likes of ETH or Fonseca because he thought they were too expansive and attacking, I do worry a little about the stylistic footballing direction of the club.
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It begs the question why, when the direction Levy wanted to take the club in was towards attacking, flowing football again, did we appoint a DOF who isn't a fan of it, to help guide us going forward? It's as if no research was done. Already it caused conflict during the managerial search with one party wanting one manager and the other party deciding against it. I fear it could cause more problems in the future as well.
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Completely. Given Levy’s stated aims surely it would have made more sense going for someone like Luis Campos, or better yet, backed and trusted Paul Mitchell’s judgment when we had him. That’s not to say I don’t think Paratici isn’t good at his job, he clearly had a lot of success at Juventus, and I don’t agree with those people who try and downplay his role in Juve’s revival and credit Moratta for all of it, but the dynamics of it seem really off.
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I get the feeling that there would have been some sort of compromise between Levy and Paratici when Paratici was hired, as to the style of play and where to take the club, which then went out of the window a bit during the managerial search as they weren't prepared to agree.

It doesn't exactly bode well if the people at the top are in disagreement with one another as this will probably go on to be reflected in transfer windows etc., just like it did back when we had AVB, Levy and Baldini.

comment by LukaBrasi COYS #FreePalestine (U22178)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Edinpotter (U1109)
posted 1 minute ago
I don’t think DOFs are as easy to predict successes/failures like managers - way too many variables
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I don't know how we came to hire Paratici but clearly there's been quite a difference of opinion between he and Levy that it makes you wonder how he was hired to begin with.
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I'm guessing Levy was impressed with Paratici when we were on verge of signing Dybala. There must have been lots of communication between two. Levy himself said he was impressed with Paratici whenever he dealt him.
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I gather they didn't do much communication on football matters. If they did they might have realised how much their tastes differ.

comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by ABC Jelly (U22709)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by ABC Jelly (U22709)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by Ace (U22467)
posted 8 minutes ago
ETH or Potter would’ve been perfect for us. I just cannot warm to the Nuno appointment and it’s gonna take more than a win over a relegation level Newcastle side to erase the memory of those Palace and NLD games. I’m trying to be patient and hope that he does the business, but I’m not gonna lie and say I’m invested in him as our manager or that I think he’ll go on to do good things with us because I just don’t see it working out that way - he’s a huge pragmatist and leopards don’t change their spots. I think he’ll deliver mediocrity in terms of performance and results and not be here this time next year.
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I agree. The win over this Newcastle team means nothing. The victory over Villa was decent though.

I’m struggling to warm to the Nuno appointment as well, simply because I think we needed a more progressive, longer term and less divisive appointment, especially after Mourinho and we got none of that. The other thing really bothering me about it, is if the reports are true that Paratici didn’t want the likes of ETH or Fonseca because he thought they were too expansive and attacking, I do worry a little about the stylistic footballing direction of the club.
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It begs the question why, when the direction Levy wanted to take the club in was towards attacking, flowing football again, did we appoint a DOF who isn't a fan of it, to help guide us going forward? It's as if no research was done. Already it caused conflict during the managerial search with one party wanting one manager and the other party deciding against it. I fear it could cause more problems in the future as well.
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Completely. Given Levy’s stated aims surely it would have made more sense going for someone like Luis Campos, or better yet, backed and trusted Paul Mitchell’s judgment when we had him. That’s not to say I don’t think Paratici isn’t good at his job, he clearly had a lot of success at Juventus, and I don’t agree with those people who try and downplay his role in Juve’s revival and credit Moratta for all of it, but the dynamics of it seem really off.
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I get the feeling that there would have been some sort of compromise between Levy and Paratici when Paratici was hired, as to the style of play and where to take the club, which then went out of the window a bit during the managerial search as they weren't prepared to agree.

It doesn't exactly bode well if the people at the top are in disagreement with one another as this will probably go on to be reflected in transfer windows etc., just like it did back when we had AVB, Levy and Baldini.
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By a lot of accounts Comolli and Ramos didn’t see eye to eye with one another as well, and that didn’t exactly go well. The absolute classic one was when Frank Arnesen came in and wanted Jol but Levy wanted a higher profile name and was smitten by Santani so we ended up hiring both 😂

comment by ABC Jelly (U22709)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by ABC Jelly (U22709)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by ABC Jelly (U22709)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by Ace (U22467)
posted 8 minutes ago
ETH or Potter would’ve been perfect for us. I just cannot warm to the Nuno appointment and it’s gonna take more than a win over a relegation level Newcastle side to erase the memory of those Palace and NLD games. I’m trying to be patient and hope that he does the business, but I’m not gonna lie and say I’m invested in him as our manager or that I think he’ll go on to do good things with us because I just don’t see it working out that way - he’s a huge pragmatist and leopards don’t change their spots. I think he’ll deliver mediocrity in terms of performance and results and not be here this time next year.
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I agree. The win over this Newcastle team means nothing. The victory over Villa was decent though.

I’m struggling to warm to the Nuno appointment as well, simply because I think we needed a more progressive, longer term and less divisive appointment, especially after Mourinho and we got none of that. The other thing really bothering me about it, is if the reports are true that Paratici didn’t want the likes of ETH or Fonseca because he thought they were too expansive and attacking, I do worry a little about the stylistic footballing direction of the club.
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It begs the question why, when the direction Levy wanted to take the club in was towards attacking, flowing football again, did we appoint a DOF who isn't a fan of it, to help guide us going forward? It's as if no research was done. Already it caused conflict during the managerial search with one party wanting one manager and the other party deciding against it. I fear it could cause more problems in the future as well.
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Completely. Given Levy’s stated aims surely it would have made more sense going for someone like Luis Campos, or better yet, backed and trusted Paul Mitchell’s judgment when we had him. That’s not to say I don’t think Paratici isn’t good at his job, he clearly had a lot of success at Juventus, and I don’t agree with those people who try and downplay his role in Juve’s revival and credit Moratta for all of it, but the dynamics of it seem really off.
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I get the feeling that there would have been some sort of compromise between Levy and Paratici when Paratici was hired, as to the style of play and where to take the club, which then went out of the window a bit during the managerial search as they weren't prepared to agree.

It doesn't exactly bode well if the people at the top are in disagreement with one another as this will probably go on to be reflected in transfer windows etc., just like it did back when we had AVB, Levy and Baldini.
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By a lot of accounts Comolli and Ramos didn’t see eye to eye with one another as well, and that didn’t exactly go well. The absolute classic one was when Frank Arnesen came in and wanted Jol but Levy wanted a higher profile name and was smitten by Santani so we ended up hiring both 😂
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As we can see the common denominator in this is Levy. Perhaps we should be trusting Paratici's judgment more than we do Baldy's?

Since Nuno isn't another one of Levy's preferred choices for manager, I guess we should gain some confidence from that.

ENIC out.

Paratici is very well known for free transfers, there your answer for why Levy wanted him