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Barcelona - just as bad

So Man Utd have debts of 771m

Gross Financial Debt £526 million
Transfer Debt £149 million
Staff Debt £0
Tax Debt £68 million
Trade Creditors £7 million
Other Creditors £22 million

but think other teams with debt shouldnt be able to buy players.

discuss

I think they are fine to do so assuming they pay it back but find it strange that certain fans forget about their own situation when throwing muck

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posted on 15/7/22

Congrats OP, your bait has sorta worked.

posted on 15/7/22

To play in LaLiga, yes. But they can’t prevent them from owning a player’ transfer rights. If push really came to shove, Barcelona would register the players permitted and loan out the ones they couldn’t accommodate.

Aside from all this, I’m not even sure of the actual basis on which the salary cap functions. As far as I recall, a few years back it wasn’t exclusively linked to a club’ debt, but also to their revenues. The schidt properly hit the fan for Barça because of the massive drop in revenues due to Covid, but last season’s revenues will have been considerably higher, so presumably they will also have a bit more wiggle room as regards their salary cap.

I have no doubt that they’ll still have to resort to some creative accounting solutions with regard to arrears from prior seasons, but this isn’t the same BoD that created this awful mess, and it’s hard to imagine them being anywhere near its level of incompetence.

posted on 15/7/22

clubs have debt if the want, but if your club is in debt dont preach to other clubs in debt about their dealings.

If you wanna talk about Barca being dodgy prob looking to manipulate money to keep them going, or showing a lack of willing to adhere to FFP and salary caps , then as I said thats a different argument and one that I would most likely agree with you on.

posted on 15/7/22

You're pinpointing one part of the financial statements and saying that it's ironic that we are complaining about Barca's situation.

Doesn't work like that.

posted on 15/7/22

comment by Mr. McGibblets (Freedom FC) (U7214)
posted 2 minutes ago
Congrats OP, your bait has sorta worked.
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its a ja606 thread mate... im just having a bit of fun and stretching a bit of hypocrisy that was made, its really nothing major .... the very quick and "kind" responses then followed by a filter fairy was quite amusing however.

posted on 15/7/22

I guess what the OP is saying is that we shouldn't talk about another club's debt much like the fans of his club shouldn't criticise town centre thuggery. (Admittedly that was a different club which happened to share the same name).

posted on 15/7/22

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 6 minutes ago
it was a united fan that created a thread and said they shouldnt be able to complete tranfer deals when they dont have the money. I tried to debate him on it but got filtered hence had to create this thread.



You don’t have a point though.
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if you cant see it then i dont really care!
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No one can see your point. You are just coming across as a tool.

posted on 15/7/22

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 hour, 42 minutes ago
comment by Lerradinho (U21557)
posted 1 minute ago
Let's look at it from a bigger perspective: there's nothing wrong with having debt and spending money on transfers/salary.

BUT there's all kinds of wrong with the circumstances and (implied) risks for the general public.
Barca (and to a lesser extend Real) have had a huge bailout before by banks (risky loans, banks got their own bailouts with public money) and gov (buying up training ground for big bucks).
Real wisened up after that and is run like a profitable business (no more galactico era transfer windows), but Barca has double down and is now a creditcard/heroin junkie allways looking for their next fix. Knowing fully well that if something goes wrong (Corona, Monkeypox, financial downturn etc.) they always get a bailout due their the economic value to the region.

Sounds very much like banks in the 2008 subprime era doesn't it? I'm not even a Spanish citizen and I hate how Barca is run nowadays at the cost/risk of the ordinary man. I'm glad Cruyff didn't have to see all this, because he wouldn't be able to rest in peace...

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agreed
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But if you agree with this, you must see why pretty much everybody (not just United fans) disagrees with you. The Barça he’s described is not really like United, is it? The two clubs’ situations are not really comparable, yet you’re calling United fans hypocritical for treating them differently. They are different.

As people have said, when United owe vast amounts of wages, are having to get rid of players and can’t register new ones, you will have a point. But this is far from the case.

posted on 15/7/22

I've got it. The op doesn't know the meaning of the word hypocritical.

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 15/7/22

Come now, being an original Rangers fan the OP ought to be well versed in the world of debt? I'm thinking of giving this 4*

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