Leicester to be charged by the PL next week

comment by Merseysidefox (U4842)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by 99 Problems (King Power OUT) (U12353)
posted 25 minutes ago
Anyway it doesn’t really matter Mersey because you’re actually now starting to make up the minority rather than the majority. The tide is turning against Top and the fanbase are getting more and more vocal every day. The charges from BOTH the PL and EFL will be the catalyst and the calls for him to go are going to get very loud over the next 12 months. Hope you enjoy it mate
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I’m happy to be a minority voice. It’s just my views and support of the owners. It still makes me sad to think the relationship could turn sour after all they’ve done for us.
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There is no ‘they’ because the person that was the driving force behind all of the success and the incredible gestures of kindness is tragically dead. You talk as if he’s still at the club. What we now have is his clueless billionaire son who is consistently getting it wrong. It’s a different ownership - not sure why you’re struggling to see the difference

comment by 99 Problems (King Power OUT) (U12353)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by Merseysidefox (U4842)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by 99 Problems (King Power OUT) (U12353)
posted 25 minutes ago
Anyway it doesn’t really matter Mersey because you’re actually now starting to make up the minority rather than the majority. The tide is turning against Top and the fanbase are getting more and more vocal every day. The charges from BOTH the PL and EFL will be the catalyst and the calls for him to go are going to get very loud over the next 12 months. Hope you enjoy it mate
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I’m happy to be a minority voice. It’s just my views and support of the owners. It still makes me sad to think the relationship could turn sour after all they’ve done for us.
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There is no ‘they’ because the person that was the driving force behind all of the success and the incredible gestures of kindness is tragically dead. You talk as if he’s still at the club. What we now have is his clueless billionaire son who is consistently getting it wrong. It’s a different ownership - not sure why you’re struggling to see the difference
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And it’s these sorts of comments against the person bank rolling our club and committing money to lots of local causes that makes me really sad. Question their decisions but we don’t need to resort to personal insults.

comment by Merseysidefox (U4842)
posted 1 hour, 55 minutes ago
comment by 99 Problems (King Power OUT) (U12353)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by Merseysidefox (U4842)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by 99 Problems (King Power OUT) (U12353)
posted 25 minutes ago
Anyway it doesn’t really matter Mersey because you’re actually now starting to make up the minority rather than the majority. The tide is turning against Top and the fanbase are getting more and more vocal every day. The charges from BOTH the PL and EFL will be the catalyst and the calls for him to go are going to get very loud over the next 12 months. Hope you enjoy it mate
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I’m happy to be a minority voice. It’s just my views and support of the owners. It still makes me sad to think the relationship could turn sour after all they’ve done for us.
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There is no ‘they’ because the person that was the driving force behind all of the success and the incredible gestures of kindness is tragically dead. You talk as if he’s still at the club. What we now have is his clueless billionaire son who is consistently getting it wrong. It’s a different ownership - not sure why you’re struggling to see the difference
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And it’s these sorts of comments against the person bank rolling our club and committing money to lots of local causes that makes me really sad. Question their decisions but we don’t need to resort to personal insults.
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Bank rolling our club? He’s racked up hundreds of millions of losses that are set to see us charged and docked points. Just how blind are you? Seriously - when are you going to wake up? When we are in league 2? I am sick to death of trying to get you stare in the mirror and figure out how much of a mess this owner has got us into. He is STILL backing Rudkin even now. Everyone you are presented with a fact you can’t refute you stop debating. You’re one annoying post away from being blocked - not because of a difference of opinion, but because you’re impossible to debate with.

comment by 99 Problems (King Power OUT) (U12353)
posted 6 hours, 34 minutes ago
comment by Merseysidefox (U4842)
posted 1 hour, 55 minutes ago
comment by 99 Problems (King Power OUT) (U12353)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by Merseysidefox (U4842)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by 99 Problems (King Power OUT) (U12353)
posted 25 minutes ago
Anyway it doesn’t really matter Mersey because you’re actually now starting to make up the minority rather than the majority. The tide is turning against Top and the fanbase are getting more and more vocal every day. The charges from BOTH the PL and EFL will be the catalyst and the calls for him to go are going to get very loud over the next 12 months. Hope you enjoy it mate
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I’m happy to be a minority voice. It’s just my views and support of the owners. It still makes me sad to think the relationship could turn sour after all they’ve done for us.
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There is no ‘they’ because the person that was the driving force behind all of the success and the incredible gestures of kindness is tragically dead. You talk as if he’s still at the club. What we now have is his clueless billionaire son who is consistently getting it wrong. It’s a different ownership - not sure why you’re struggling to see the difference
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And it’s these sorts of comments against the person bank rolling our club and committing money to lots of local causes that makes me really sad. Question their decisions but we don’t need to resort to personal insults.
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Bank rolling our club? He’s racked up hundreds of millions of losses that are set to see us charged and docked points. Just how blind are you? Seriously - when are you going to wake up? When we are in league 2? I am sick to death of trying to get you stare in the mirror and figure out how much of a mess this owner has got us into. He is STILL backing Rudkin even now. Everyone you are presented with a fact you can’t refute you stop debating. You’re one annoying post away from being blocked - not because of a difference of opinion, but because you’re impossible to debate with.
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Have you heard of FFP - apparently there’s some noise around it right now. He can’t pump money into the club because it’s against the rules.

I’m not impossible to debate with, you just aren’t happy when I don’t agree with you. It’s ok to disagree and have different opinions to people you know?

Interesting exchange. You both want what's best for the club (as we all do), but have partially differing views as to what is needed. I'd point out that there is a large measure of agreement here about the mismanagement over the last few years.

I'm between the two of you in my views, edging towards where 99P is - I mostly agree, except Top is getting towards last chance saloon with me. He needs to realise that there is a fundamental issue at the club with the DoF, and sooner rather than later.

Unfortunately it doesn't look as if that will be happening anytime in the immediate future; perhaps it would take failure to get promoted (not something I want to happen and a few weeks ago looked very unlikely but is now quite possible) for a reappraisal to take place.

I have a horrible suspicion that Top just won't get there, it's fairly clear he isn't a patch on his dad unfortunately, but I'm willing to give him a bit more time before I get in to the KP out brigade. Why? Because I'm also aware that it's not usually good to have change for change's sake and remember the old adages -'be careful what you wish for' and 'jump out of the frying pan into the fire'.

I've not been really happy with where we are despite our success this year, being concerned about the future - hence my retention of the emogi.

Mersey - I’ve heard of FFP. I’ve also heard of profit and sustainability rules. They are both published rules clubs need to follow and are designed to make sure owners are not saddling clubs with unsustainable debt before they walk away. Like you know Mersey - let’s say £92m of losses in one season because we are trying to keep up with clubs who earn far more in revenues than we do.

God forbid if anything happened to Top it could push Leicester into administration with that kind of reckless financial debt. You have said yourself that you want the club to grow sustainably remember?

Despite Everton and Forest - the vast majority of clubs our size have managed to follow them. We have not. Our situation was entirely avoidable - we racked up unsustainable losses chasing Europe so STOP now twisting the ffp argument to somehow make out it’s preventing Top from properly investing in the club. Go and google Brighton and see how they have done it.

The reason you are on the verge of being blocked is not because you have a difference of opinion to me - it’s because we seem to waste time going in circles on factual points in a way I don’t experience with other posters.

What I also experience with you that I don’t experience with others is that when a local counter argument is put to you, you completely swerve it. Perfect examples in this thread where you completely ignored the Rudkin point. Scroll back up. You asked a question to try and once again defend Top by asking ‘well what else could another owner do that Top isn’t doing?’. I answered - get rid of Rudkin who you have now finally admitted isn’t up to task. You’ve just stopped debating the point - probably because it’s irrefutable

Let me clear. I’m not about to block you because you support the board and I don’t, Its because we go round in circles on the same points because you continually either misrepresent facts (like your ridiculous FFP excuse) or you swerve any argument you can’t refute and then we start again

You are the most frustrating Leicester fan I’ve ever come across

Watch him now not reply to the above post by the way - he’ll go off and hide again. It’s like trying to pin the tail on the donkey debating with him.

Sorry 99, I wasn’t avoiding reply, life gets a bit busy every now and again.

I think Nuneaton is right. I agree with most of what you’ve written about our failure to meet FFP and the mismanagement that created it. I think Rudkin should fall as a result of that.

But I also understand how the mistake was made and that as a club were now trying to return to being run sustainably. I don’t want us to fall foul of FFP either because I was a sustainable club.

I agree with most of what you’ve written, I just don’t want a change at the top. I want to see us returning ing the the successful model of growth pre Rodgers under stops leadership. If he fails to resolve this then I’ll join you in asking him to leave. But politely and with gratitude.

Again though your argument just keeps falling over. You want to see us returning to the successful model of growth under Tops leadership - yet Top has appointed the very man you feel is responsible for our regression as the man to hold the inquisition into what went wrong.

Rudkins influence has grown in the last few years, not declined and his appointment of Maresca is now starting to reek of a potential mistake- which will be borne out in full if we don’t go up

So Top is showing no signs of being able to restore us to where we were by backing the man that was chiefly responsible for the mess in the first place. It’s why your argument fails time and again

And - it's happened.