Zakaria does seem the hipster dream as a DM for any top club. Never seen him ofc but very highly rated, his style sounds unique
comment by minididi (U17584)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by T.J (U15973)
posted 1 minute ago
We need a powerful & physical DM that can also play out.
Probably why we were linked to someone like Denis Zakaria
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Zakaria would've made a much bigger impact on the team than someone like Havertz. That being said, I'm still harbouring some hope that Ampadu can come back next season and be the DM that our team is crying out for at the moment. His performance against Liverpool was very promising. I watched a decent chunk of that match and he was solid defensively while also being confident bringing the ball forwards.
My ideal midfield (if 4-2-3-1 is to be our main formation moving forward) would be someone like Gilmour paired with a DM in the mould of Zakaria (or Ampadu). I don't think any of our current starters at CM fit the pivot. For it to be balanced, I think we need:
(1) A defensive destroyer type who's comfortable sitting deep and sweeping up while also being physically imposing enough that we don't get outmuscled in midfield. Also, it goes without saying that they need to be comfortable on the ball - they don't necessarily have to be especially creative but they must have the ability to progress the ball forward (through passing or dribbling) even when pressed
(2) A creative deep-lying playmaker type who has solid defensive positioning and workrate. They need to have excellent ball progression abilities through passing and/or dribbling. Adventurous in their passing - i.e. willing to consistently make line breaking passes to feed the attack. Also need to be comfortable when pressed.
Of course we could get players who have a mix of qualities in (1) and (2) but regardless, I feel that any pairing must contain all of the qualities mentioned to be balanced in "any" game scenario. A player in the mould of (1) could also play as a DM in a 4-3-3 flanked by two 8s (e.g. Fernandinho for City).
In Kovacic, Kante and Jorginho we don't have a pairing that fulfils all of the qualities in (1) and (2). Kante has some of (1) but is far from physically imposing. Jorginho has barely any of either (1) or (2). While Kovacic is someone I'd have hoped could be a (2) but seems to be lacking in his forward passing (WC at dribbling though).
From our entire CM roster, Gilmour would be perfect for (2) and Ampadu has the potential to fulfil (1). Clearly it's a big ask for them to slot in straight away so perhaps we need to look towards the transfer market.
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If you are proved correct, and I think at the moment our midfield options don't look right for 4 2 3 1, then Frank has fecked it for his 4 2 3 1 vision.
It seems to me from comments by our new signings, that Frank spoke to each of them and sold them the dream of an attacking and fluid Chelsea based on 4 2 3 1. If that is the case, then it will be very hard for Lampard to go back to 4 3 3 and in his mind save face, but it could be the only way he keeps his job.
comment by Blarmy (U14547)
posted 35 minutes ago
Also Jorgi's main benefit is meant to be his possession play and keeping the ball live for us
I can't give him a good mark for that game due to that moment tbh
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Jorginho is a ball recycler who isn't especially creative. He just doesn't work in a midfield two. There's a reason Sarri flanked him with two midfielders who were tasked with more responsibility in moving the ball through the middle third to supply the attack.
comment by Stretchy Mendy (U1641)
posted 4 minutes ago
Tweets from @ExpectedChelsea:
“Edouard Mendy against Man United was the first Chelsea goalkeeper to over-perform his post-shot xG by more than 1.0 since December 2018!
This is also a sign of how we've just not had enough elite shot-stoppers (at least statistically) until now.
For perspective, the GKs of Arsenal (a random example) have over-performed their PSxG by more than 1.0 four times in 2020 alone!“
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Something about him strikes me as meh. He's technically unorthodox & has brain f@rt moments in him.
What was good about him yesterday was parrying the shots out of play, a recurring theme from YouTube vids was him parrying shots straight back into dangerous areas.
comment by Devil (U6522)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Stretchy Mendy (U1641)
posted 4 minutes ago
Tweets from @ExpectedChelsea:
“Edouard Mendy against Man United was the first Chelsea goalkeeper to over-perform his post-shot xG by more than 1.0 since December 2018!
This is also a sign of how we've just not had enough elite shot-stoppers (at least statistically) until now.
For perspective, the GKs of Arsenal (a random example) have over-performed their PSxG by more than 1.0 four times in 2020 alone!“
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Something about him strikes me as meh. He's technically unorthodox & has brain f@rt moments in him.
What was good about him yesterday was parrying the shots out of play, a recurring theme from YouTube vids was him parrying shots straight back into dangerous areas.
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I will take any improvement over Kepa,orthodox or not. I am fairly sure we lose that game yesterday with Kepa or Caballero playing.
comment by minididi (U17584)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Blarmy (U14547)
posted 35 minutes ago
Also Jorgi's main benefit is meant to be his possession play and keeping the ball live for us
I can't give him a good mark for that game due to that moment tbh
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Jorginho is a ball recycler who isn't especially creative. He just doesn't work in a midfield two. There's a reason Sarri flanked him with two midfielders who were tasked with more responsibility in moving the ball through the middle third to supply the attack.
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Yep
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 2 minutes ago
If you are proved correct, and I think at the moment our midfield options don't look right for 4 2 3 1, then Frank has fecked it for his 4 2 3 1 vision.
It seems to me from comments by our new signings, that Frank spoke to each of them and sold them the dream of an attacking and fluid Chelsea based on 4 2 3 1. If that is the case, then it will be very hard for Lampard to go back to 4 3 3 and in his mind save face, but it could be the only way he keeps his job.
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Alarm bells started ringing for me when we let Barkley leave. It made it clear to me that Lampard had fully moved away from a 4-3-3 despite 4-2-3-1 never looking quite right with any pairing of Kovacic, Jorginho and Kante.
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by minididi (U17584)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Blarmy (U14547)
posted 35 minutes ago
Also Jorgi's main benefit is meant to be his possession play and keeping the ball live for us
I can't give him a good mark for that game due to that moment tbh
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Jorginho is a ball recycler who isn't especially creative. He just doesn't work in a midfield two. There's a reason Sarri flanked him with two midfielders who were tasked with more responsibility in moving the ball through the middle third to supply the attack.
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Yep
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That is why I think wr shd go 4 3 3. I think Jorghino is the only CM that allows us to beat a high press, but is not good enough for a midfield 2.
Even if it is for just this season, I think we shd play Havertz as an 8. But I think Frank sold Chelsea to Havertz as playing as a 10
comment by minididi (U17584)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 2 minutes ago
If you are proved correct, and I think at the moment our midfield options don't look right for 4 2 3 1, then Frank has fecked it for his 4 2 3 1 vision.
It seems to me from comments by our new signings, that Frank spoke to each of them and sold them the dream of an attacking and fluid Chelsea based on 4 2 3 1. If that is the case, then it will be very hard for Lampard to go back to 4 3 3 and in his mind save face, but it could be the only way he keeps his job.
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Alarm bells started ringing for me when we let Barkley leave. It made it clear to me that Lampard had fully moved away from a 4-3-3 despite 4-2-3-1 never looking quite right with any pairing of Kovacic, Jorginho and Kante.
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And that was shorh sighted of him. You must have a back up strategy, just in case.
I think Mendy looks fine, brain fart was bit rando but reflexes and saves all look fine. I would like to see more how he is with his feet and whether he can be Courtois-like in collecting crosses with his height
Let’s see what scruffy tap in Calvert Lewindowski bags today
comment by Stretchy Mendy (U1641)
posted 2 minutes ago
I think Mendy looks fine, brain fart was bit rando but reflexes and saves all look fine. I would like to see more how he is with his feet and whether he can be Courtois-like in collecting crosses with his height
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And our defenders look a bit more at ease with him between the posts.
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by minididi (U17584)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Blarmy (U14547)
posted 35 minutes ago
Also Jorgi's main benefit is meant to be his possession play and keeping the ball live for us
I can't give him a good mark for that game due to that moment tbh
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Jorginho is a ball recycler who isn't especially creative. He just doesn't work in a midfield two. There's a reason Sarri flanked him with two midfielders who were tasked with more responsibility in moving the ball through the middle third to supply the attack.
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Yep
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That is why I think wr shd go 4 3 3. I think Jorghino is the only CM that allows us to beat a high press, but is not good enough for a midfield 2.
Even if it is for just this season, I think we shd play Havertz as an 8. But I think Frank sold Chelsea to Havertz as playing as a 10
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I think that'd probably be the best option. I'm still not comfortable with Jorginho being our last line of defence (before the back line) but without him we'd struggle to beat a high press. Kovacic is an interesting option who could also potentially fill that role but I don't think he's positionally disciplined enough. His dribbling - although very effective - leaves massive gaps in our midfield.
comment by minididi (U17584)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by minididi (U17584)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Blarmy (U14547)
posted 35 minutes ago
Also Jorgi's main benefit is meant to be his possession play and keeping the ball live for us
I can't give him a good mark for that game due to that moment tbh
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Jorginho is a ball recycler who isn't especially creative. He just doesn't work in a midfield two. There's a reason Sarri flanked him with two midfielders who were tasked with more responsibility in moving the ball through the middle third to supply the attack.
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Yep
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That is why I think wr shd go 4 3 3. I think Jorghino is the only CM that allows us to beat a high press, but is not good enough for a midfield 2.
Even if it is for just this season, I think we shd play Havertz as an 8. But I think Frank sold Chelsea to Havertz as playing as a 10
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I think that'd probably be the best option. I'm still not comfortable with Jorginho being our last line of defence (before the back line) but without him we'd struggle to beat a high press. Kovacic is an interesting option who could also potentially fill that role but I don't think he's positionally disciplined enough. His dribbling - although very effective - leaves massive gaps in our midfield.
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So..
Havertz. Jorghino. Kovacic
Ziyech. Werner Pulisic,
Front 3 interchangeable withTammy CHO and Mount?
Ampadu vs. Liverpool
https://twitter.com/BnsComps/status/1320317746291363840
Literally fits my description of DM down to a tee. Definitely missed a trick in letting him leave. Genuinely makes me angry seeing him play like this for someone else.
comment by minididi (U17584)
posted less than a minute ago
Ampadu vs. Liverpool
https://twitter.com/BnsComps/status/1320317746291363840
Literally fits my description of DM down to a tee. Definitely missed a trick in letting him leave. Genuinely makes me angry seeing him play like this for someone else.
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I thought Sheff United played really well agst Liverpool. I think we will have a tough game agst them.
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by minididi (U17584)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by minididi (U17584)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Blarmy (U14547)
posted 35 minutes ago
Also Jorgi's main benefit is meant to be his possession play and keeping the ball live for us
I can't give him a good mark for that game due to that moment tbh
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Jorginho is a ball recycler who isn't especially creative. He just doesn't work in a midfield two. There's a reason Sarri flanked him with two midfielders who were tasked with more responsibility in moving the ball through the middle third to supply the attack.
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Yep
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That is why I think wr shd go 4 3 3. I think Jorghino is the only CM that allows us to beat a high press, but is not good enough for a midfield 2.
Even if it is for just this season, I think we shd play Havertz as an 8. But I think Frank sold Chelsea to Havertz as playing as a 10
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I think that'd probably be the best option. I'm still not comfortable with Jorginho being our last line of defence (before the back line) but without him we'd struggle to beat a high press. Kovacic is an interesting option who could also potentially fill that role but I don't think he's positionally disciplined enough. His dribbling - although very effective - leaves massive gaps in our midfield.
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So..
Havertz. Jorghino. Kovacic
Ziyech. Werner Pulisic,
Front 3 interchangeable withTammy CHO and Mount?
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I'd say Mount interchanges with Havertz (don't like him playing on the wing). And that midfield looks a bit worrying defensively... Kovacic could be swapped out for Kante but then we lose his WC dribbling ability. There's no easy decisions here in all honesty.
So...leaving out our apparently best player not on the ball then...
comment by soccerlol (U7650)
posted less than a minute ago
Sheriff
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If he is a WUM, then he hooked me line and sinker.
Just wanted simple answers to simple questions...
If they weren't available then so be it
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted less than a minute ago
So...leaving out our apparently best player not on the ball then...
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Yes that's the conundrum. It's really tough, but it might be the best decision for a balanced team
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted less than a minute ago
Just wanted simple answers to simple questions...
If they weren't available then so be it
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No, you didn't. You talked about sweeping statements.
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted less than a minute ago
Just wanted simple answers to simple questions...
If they weren't available then so be it
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No, you didn't. You talked about sweeping statements.
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posted on 25/10/20
Zakaria does seem the hipster dream as a DM for any top club. Never seen him ofc but very highly rated, his style sounds unique
posted on 25/10/20
comment by minididi (U17584)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by T.J (U15973)
posted 1 minute ago
We need a powerful & physical DM that can also play out.
Probably why we were linked to someone like Denis Zakaria
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Zakaria would've made a much bigger impact on the team than someone like Havertz. That being said, I'm still harbouring some hope that Ampadu can come back next season and be the DM that our team is crying out for at the moment. His performance against Liverpool was very promising. I watched a decent chunk of that match and he was solid defensively while also being confident bringing the ball forwards.
My ideal midfield (if 4-2-3-1 is to be our main formation moving forward) would be someone like Gilmour paired with a DM in the mould of Zakaria (or Ampadu). I don't think any of our current starters at CM fit the pivot. For it to be balanced, I think we need:
(1) A defensive destroyer type who's comfortable sitting deep and sweeping up while also being physically imposing enough that we don't get outmuscled in midfield. Also, it goes without saying that they need to be comfortable on the ball - they don't necessarily have to be especially creative but they must have the ability to progress the ball forward (through passing or dribbling) even when pressed
(2) A creative deep-lying playmaker type who has solid defensive positioning and workrate. They need to have excellent ball progression abilities through passing and/or dribbling. Adventurous in their passing - i.e. willing to consistently make line breaking passes to feed the attack. Also need to be comfortable when pressed.
Of course we could get players who have a mix of qualities in (1) and (2) but regardless, I feel that any pairing must contain all of the qualities mentioned to be balanced in "any" game scenario. A player in the mould of (1) could also play as a DM in a 4-3-3 flanked by two 8s (e.g. Fernandinho for City).
In Kovacic, Kante and Jorginho we don't have a pairing that fulfils all of the qualities in (1) and (2). Kante has some of (1) but is far from physically imposing. Jorginho has barely any of either (1) or (2). While Kovacic is someone I'd have hoped could be a (2) but seems to be lacking in his forward passing (WC at dribbling though).
From our entire CM roster, Gilmour would be perfect for (2) and Ampadu has the potential to fulfil (1). Clearly it's a big ask for them to slot in straight away so perhaps we need to look towards the transfer market.
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If you are proved correct, and I think at the moment our midfield options don't look right for 4 2 3 1, then Frank has fecked it for his 4 2 3 1 vision.
It seems to me from comments by our new signings, that Frank spoke to each of them and sold them the dream of an attacking and fluid Chelsea based on 4 2 3 1. If that is the case, then it will be very hard for Lampard to go back to 4 3 3 and in his mind save face, but it could be the only way he keeps his job.
posted on 25/10/20
comment by Blarmy (U14547)
posted 35 minutes ago
Also Jorgi's main benefit is meant to be his possession play and keeping the ball live for us
I can't give him a good mark for that game due to that moment tbh
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Jorginho is a ball recycler who isn't especially creative. He just doesn't work in a midfield two. There's a reason Sarri flanked him with two midfielders who were tasked with more responsibility in moving the ball through the middle third to supply the attack.
posted on 25/10/20
comment by Stretchy Mendy (U1641)
posted 4 minutes ago
Tweets from @ExpectedChelsea:
“Edouard Mendy against Man United was the first Chelsea goalkeeper to over-perform his post-shot xG by more than 1.0 since December 2018!
This is also a sign of how we've just not had enough elite shot-stoppers (at least statistically) until now.
For perspective, the GKs of Arsenal (a random example) have over-performed their PSxG by more than 1.0 four times in 2020 alone!“
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Something about him strikes me as meh. He's technically unorthodox & has brain f@rt moments in him.
What was good about him yesterday was parrying the shots out of play, a recurring theme from YouTube vids was him parrying shots straight back into dangerous areas.
posted on 25/10/20
comment by Devil (U6522)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Stretchy Mendy (U1641)
posted 4 minutes ago
Tweets from @ExpectedChelsea:
“Edouard Mendy against Man United was the first Chelsea goalkeeper to over-perform his post-shot xG by more than 1.0 since December 2018!
This is also a sign of how we've just not had enough elite shot-stoppers (at least statistically) until now.
For perspective, the GKs of Arsenal (a random example) have over-performed their PSxG by more than 1.0 four times in 2020 alone!“
--------------------------------------------------------
Something about him strikes me as meh. He's technically unorthodox & has brain f@rt moments in him.
What was good about him yesterday was parrying the shots out of play, a recurring theme from YouTube vids was him parrying shots straight back into dangerous areas.
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I will take any improvement over Kepa,orthodox or not. I am fairly sure we lose that game yesterday with Kepa or Caballero playing.
posted on 25/10/20
comment by minididi (U17584)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Blarmy (U14547)
posted 35 minutes ago
Also Jorgi's main benefit is meant to be his possession play and keeping the ball live for us
I can't give him a good mark for that game due to that moment tbh
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Jorginho is a ball recycler who isn't especially creative. He just doesn't work in a midfield two. There's a reason Sarri flanked him with two midfielders who were tasked with more responsibility in moving the ball through the middle third to supply the attack.
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Yep
posted on 25/10/20
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 2 minutes ago
If you are proved correct, and I think at the moment our midfield options don't look right for 4 2 3 1, then Frank has fecked it for his 4 2 3 1 vision.
It seems to me from comments by our new signings, that Frank spoke to each of them and sold them the dream of an attacking and fluid Chelsea based on 4 2 3 1. If that is the case, then it will be very hard for Lampard to go back to 4 3 3 and in his mind save face, but it could be the only way he keeps his job.
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Alarm bells started ringing for me when we let Barkley leave. It made it clear to me that Lampard had fully moved away from a 4-3-3 despite 4-2-3-1 never looking quite right with any pairing of Kovacic, Jorginho and Kante.
posted on 25/10/20
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by minididi (U17584)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Blarmy (U14547)
posted 35 minutes ago
Also Jorgi's main benefit is meant to be his possession play and keeping the ball live for us
I can't give him a good mark for that game due to that moment tbh
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Jorginho is a ball recycler who isn't especially creative. He just doesn't work in a midfield two. There's a reason Sarri flanked him with two midfielders who were tasked with more responsibility in moving the ball through the middle third to supply the attack.
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Yep
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That is why I think wr shd go 4 3 3. I think Jorghino is the only CM that allows us to beat a high press, but is not good enough for a midfield 2.
Even if it is for just this season, I think we shd play Havertz as an 8. But I think Frank sold Chelsea to Havertz as playing as a 10
posted on 25/10/20
comment by minididi (U17584)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 2 minutes ago
If you are proved correct, and I think at the moment our midfield options don't look right for 4 2 3 1, then Frank has fecked it for his 4 2 3 1 vision.
It seems to me from comments by our new signings, that Frank spoke to each of them and sold them the dream of an attacking and fluid Chelsea based on 4 2 3 1. If that is the case, then it will be very hard for Lampard to go back to 4 3 3 and in his mind save face, but it could be the only way he keeps his job.
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Alarm bells started ringing for me when we let Barkley leave. It made it clear to me that Lampard had fully moved away from a 4-3-3 despite 4-2-3-1 never looking quite right with any pairing of Kovacic, Jorginho and Kante.
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And that was shorh sighted of him. You must have a back up strategy, just in case.
posted on 25/10/20
I think Mendy looks fine, brain fart was bit rando but reflexes and saves all look fine. I would like to see more how he is with his feet and whether he can be Courtois-like in collecting crosses with his height
posted on 25/10/20
Let’s see what scruffy tap in Calvert Lewindowski bags today
posted on 25/10/20
comment by Stretchy Mendy (U1641)
posted 2 minutes ago
I think Mendy looks fine, brain fart was bit rando but reflexes and saves all look fine. I would like to see more how he is with his feet and whether he can be Courtois-like in collecting crosses with his height
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And our defenders look a bit more at ease with him between the posts.
posted on 25/10/20
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by minididi (U17584)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Blarmy (U14547)
posted 35 minutes ago
Also Jorgi's main benefit is meant to be his possession play and keeping the ball live for us
I can't give him a good mark for that game due to that moment tbh
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Jorginho is a ball recycler who isn't especially creative. He just doesn't work in a midfield two. There's a reason Sarri flanked him with two midfielders who were tasked with more responsibility in moving the ball through the middle third to supply the attack.
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Yep
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That is why I think wr shd go 4 3 3. I think Jorghino is the only CM that allows us to beat a high press, but is not good enough for a midfield 2.
Even if it is for just this season, I think we shd play Havertz as an 8. But I think Frank sold Chelsea to Havertz as playing as a 10
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I think that'd probably be the best option. I'm still not comfortable with Jorginho being our last line of defence (before the back line) but without him we'd struggle to beat a high press. Kovacic is an interesting option who could also potentially fill that role but I don't think he's positionally disciplined enough. His dribbling - although very effective - leaves massive gaps in our midfield.
posted on 25/10/20
comment by minididi (U17584)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by minididi (U17584)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Blarmy (U14547)
posted 35 minutes ago
Also Jorgi's main benefit is meant to be his possession play and keeping the ball live for us
I can't give him a good mark for that game due to that moment tbh
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Jorginho is a ball recycler who isn't especially creative. He just doesn't work in a midfield two. There's a reason Sarri flanked him with two midfielders who were tasked with more responsibility in moving the ball through the middle third to supply the attack.
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Yep
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That is why I think wr shd go 4 3 3. I think Jorghino is the only CM that allows us to beat a high press, but is not good enough for a midfield 2.
Even if it is for just this season, I think we shd play Havertz as an 8. But I think Frank sold Chelsea to Havertz as playing as a 10
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I think that'd probably be the best option. I'm still not comfortable with Jorginho being our last line of defence (before the back line) but without him we'd struggle to beat a high press. Kovacic is an interesting option who could also potentially fill that role but I don't think he's positionally disciplined enough. His dribbling - although very effective - leaves massive gaps in our midfield.
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So..
Havertz. Jorghino. Kovacic
Ziyech. Werner Pulisic,
Front 3 interchangeable withTammy CHO and Mount?
posted on 25/10/20
Ampadu vs. Liverpool
https://twitter.com/BnsComps/status/1320317746291363840
Literally fits my description of DM down to a tee. Definitely missed a trick in letting him leave. Genuinely makes me angry seeing him play like this for someone else.
posted on 25/10/20
Ward Prowse
posted on 25/10/20
comment by minididi (U17584)
posted less than a minute ago
Ampadu vs. Liverpool
https://twitter.com/BnsComps/status/1320317746291363840
Literally fits my description of DM down to a tee. Definitely missed a trick in letting him leave. Genuinely makes me angry seeing him play like this for someone else.
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I thought Sheff United played really well agst Liverpool. I think we will have a tough game agst them.
posted on 25/10/20
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by minididi (U17584)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by minididi (U17584)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Blarmy (U14547)
posted 35 minutes ago
Also Jorgi's main benefit is meant to be his possession play and keeping the ball live for us
I can't give him a good mark for that game due to that moment tbh
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Jorginho is a ball recycler who isn't especially creative. He just doesn't work in a midfield two. There's a reason Sarri flanked him with two midfielders who were tasked with more responsibility in moving the ball through the middle third to supply the attack.
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Yep
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That is why I think wr shd go 4 3 3. I think Jorghino is the only CM that allows us to beat a high press, but is not good enough for a midfield 2.
Even if it is for just this season, I think we shd play Havertz as an 8. But I think Frank sold Chelsea to Havertz as playing as a 10
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I think that'd probably be the best option. I'm still not comfortable with Jorginho being our last line of defence (before the back line) but without him we'd struggle to beat a high press. Kovacic is an interesting option who could also potentially fill that role but I don't think he's positionally disciplined enough. His dribbling - although very effective - leaves massive gaps in our midfield.
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So..
Havertz. Jorghino. Kovacic
Ziyech. Werner Pulisic,
Front 3 interchangeable withTammy CHO and Mount?
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I'd say Mount interchanges with Havertz (don't like him playing on the wing). And that midfield looks a bit worrying defensively... Kovacic could be swapped out for Kante but then we lose his WC dribbling ability. There's no easy decisions here in all honesty.
posted on 25/10/20
Sheriff
posted on 25/10/20
So...leaving out our apparently best player not on the ball then...
posted on 25/10/20
comment by soccerlol (U7650)
posted less than a minute ago
Sheriff
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If he is a WUM, then he hooked me line and sinker.
posted on 25/10/20
Just wanted simple answers to simple questions...
If they weren't available then so be it
posted on 25/10/20
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted less than a minute ago
So...leaving out our apparently best player not on the ball then...
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Yes that's the conundrum. It's really tough, but it might be the best decision for a balanced team
posted on 25/10/20
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted less than a minute ago
Just wanted simple answers to simple questions...
If they weren't available then so be it
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No, you didn't. You talked about sweeping statements.
posted on 25/10/20
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted less than a minute ago
Just wanted simple answers to simple questions...
If they weren't available then so be it
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No, you didn't. You talked about sweeping statements.
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And others agreed
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