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posted on 8/9/18

I don’t know how Iniesta has reached this godlike status throughout the football world

Remember him being awful at the Euros in 2012 in winning the player of the tournament. Just one of UEFA’s posterboys that people have been brainwashed into thinking he’s better than he is

posted on 8/9/18

comment by Sheriff John Brown - Wenger Till I Die (U7482)
posted 27 minutes ago
I don't believe Iniesta is superior to Gerrard or Lampard. He excels at a different facet of the game which needs excellent players like those Barca and 2008-2012 Spain had in abundance to complement his qualities. They couldn't do what he does. But neither could he ever do what Lampard and Gerrard produced week in, week out in England.
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Holy fack, have read some nonsense on these boards but this is outstanding

posted on 8/9/18

comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 (U18355)
posted 3 minutes ago
Iniesta is one of the most overrated footballers of all time

Give me Lampard over Iniesta every day of the week

I’d rather have someone who guarantees goals/assists than someone who controls the ball in tight areas, dribbles past a few players then makes a 5 yard sideway pass
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Utterly clueless
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It really is staggering

posted on 8/9/18

Benik made his England debut yet Cinci ?

posted on 8/9/18

comment by Pâî§Lë¥'š _P䆆ê®ÑëÐ_ÐrÊåm§ (U1541)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Wenger Till I Die (U7482)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Pâî§Lë¥'š _P䆆ê®ÑëÐ_ÐrÊåm§ (U1541)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Wenger Till I Die (U7482)
posted 2 minutes ago
I don't believe Iniesta is superior to Gerrard or Lampard. He excels at a different facet of the game which needs excellent players like those Barca and 2008-2012 Spain had in abundance to complement his qualities. They couldn't do what he does. But neither could he ever do what Lampard and Gerrard produced week in, week out in England.
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He has won everything. Ballon d'or 2nd and 3rd.

Go and have aie down. Technically he was on another level. One of the very best players of his generation and better than any player England has produced in it's entire footballing history.
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He won everything partly because he played for one of the finest club sides of all time and a national team ranked probably behind only 1970 Brazil as the finest of all time. Technique is not all that matters in football. Liverpool didn't win the CL in 2005 because of how technically proficient they were. Iniesta is technically superior, but when Lampard is scoring 20-something goals every facking season, it's silly to make it out like technical proficiency is all that mattered.
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Its not all that matters, but stating that Lampard as being superior to Iniesta is an opinion that holds absolutely no water with me.

It's crazy talk.
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There is nothing crazy about it. Lampard has a ton of stuff he did better than Iniesta. Those are the facts. He scored far, far more goals. He assisted a lot more too. He's stronger in the tackle with the energy to get box-to-box. I haven't even said Lampard was better. I said they excel at different things. It's nonsensical to only talk about Iniesta's technical qualities without recognizing Lampard's. I remember the days when English fans looked down on tippy-tappy players like Iniesta and Xavi, until Barca took apart Man U in that CL final in 2009, and then people went too far in overcompensating the other way in devaluing the qualities of the Gerrards and Lampards of the world. I wouldn't even have swapped Fabregas (in his Arsenal prime) for Iniesta. As gifted as Iniesta is, you have to recognize he does have limitations too and can't focus only on his technique. You might think you're a bigger fan of him than me but you're not. Iniesta was my favourite footballer after Messi through his career, but I do believe people overrate him.

posted on 8/9/18

comment by Sheriff John Brown - Wenger Till I Die (U7482)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Pâî§Lë¥'š _P䆆ê®ÑëÐ_ÐrÊåm§ (U1541)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Wenger Till I Die (U7482)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Pâî§Lë¥'š _P䆆ê®ÑëÐ_ÐrÊåm§ (U1541)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Wenger Till I Die (U7482)
posted 2 minutes ago
I don't believe Iniesta is superior to Gerrard or Lampard. He excels at a different facet of the game which needs excellent players like those Barca and 2008-2012 Spain had in abundance to complement his qualities. They couldn't do what he does. But neither could he ever do what Lampard and Gerrard produced week in, week out in England.
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He has won everything. Ballon d'or 2nd and 3rd.

Go and have aie down. Technically he was on another level. One of the very best players of his generation and better than any player England has produced in it's entire footballing history.
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He won everything partly because he played for one of the finest club sides of all time and a national team ranked probably behind only 1970 Brazil as the finest of all time. Technique is not all that matters in football. Liverpool didn't win the CL in 2005 because of how technically proficient they were. Iniesta is technically superior, but when Lampard is scoring 20-something goals every facking season, it's silly to make it out like technical proficiency is all that mattered.
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Its not all that matters, but stating that Lampard as being superior to Iniesta is an opinion that holds absolutely no water with me.

It's crazy talk.
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There is nothing crazy about it. Lampard has a ton of stuff he did better than Iniesta. Those are the facts. He scored far, far more goals. He assisted a lot more too. He's stronger in the tackle with the energy to get box-to-box. I haven't even said Lampard was better. I said they excel at different things. It's nonsensical to only talk about Iniesta's technical qualities without recognizing Lampard's. I remember the days when English fans looked down on tippy-tappy players like Iniesta and Xavi, until Barca took apart Man U in that CL final in 2009, and then people went too far in overcompensating the other way in devaluing the qualities of the Gerrards and Lampards of the world. I wouldn't even have swapped Fabregas (in his Arsenal prime) for Iniesta. As gifted as Iniesta is, you have to recognize he does have limitations too and can't focus only on his technique. You might think you're a bigger fan of him than me but you're not. Iniesta was my favourite footballer after Messi through his career, but I do believe people overrate him.
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Rooney for me.

posted on 8/9/18

comment by 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 (U18355)
posted 4 minutes ago
Benik made his England debut yet Cinci ?
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Nah he chose another nation with better hopes of winning something

posted on 8/9/18

comment by 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 (U18355)
posted 10 minutes ago
I don’t know how Iniesta has reached this godlike status throughout the football world

Remember him being awful at the Euros in 2012 in winning the player of the tournament. Just one of UEFA’s posterboys that people have been brainwashed into thinking he’s better than he is
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It's the modern football hipster who want to show you they understand football so much that they can see all the subtle things that you are missing. We've come to a point where comparing Frank Lampard or Gerrard, 2 of the greatest midfielders of their generation and 2 of their clubs' finest players of all time to Iniesta is somehow an insult to Iniesta.

posted on 8/9/18

comment by Sheriff John Brown - Wenger Till I Die (U7482)
posted about a minute ago
comment by 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 (U18355)
posted 10 minutes ago
I don’t know how Iniesta has reached this godlike status throughout the football world

Remember him being awful at the Euros in 2012 in winning the player of the tournament. Just one of UEFA’s posterboys that people have been brainwashed into thinking he’s better than he is
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It's the modern football hipster who want to show you they understand football so much that they can see all the subtle things that you are missing. We've come to a point where comparing Frank Lampard or Gerrard, 2 of the greatest midfielders of their generation and 2 of their clubs' finest players of all time to Iniesta is somehow an insult to Iniesta.
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Could not do it week in week out like Kevin Nolan did in England.

posted on 8/9/18

Lampard and Gerrard were just like Dave Edwards, run run run and be physical and all the cracks papered over because they had an eye for goal.

Iniesta completely dictated the style of play and was a major part of a style of football that revolutionized the feckin game.

posted on 8/9/18

comment by Cinciwolf--Top ten finish? Piece of pee (U11551)
posted 1 minute ago
Iniesta completely dictated the style of play and was a major part of a style of football that revolutionized the feckin game.
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Too much hyperbole

posted on 8/9/18

comment by 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 (U18355)
posted 17 minutes ago
I don’t know how Iniesta has reached this godlike status throughout the football world

Remember him being awful at the Euros in 2012 in winning the player of the tournament. Just one of UEFA’s posterboys that people have been brainwashed into thinking he’s better than he is
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Like Henderson. Completely underrated. Genuinely world class player of simple passes, that keeps the game ticking over. Who needs fancy dans like innesra bearing 5 players with a clever flick, when you have clocks tickers like Henderson who are the true heroes.

posted on 8/9/18

Lee Cattermole for me.

posted on 8/9/18

Career club goals:

Zinedine Zidane: 95

Kevin Nolan: 99

Nolan did it week in week out in England as well. None of this sideways passing and pointless flicks like Zidane. Nolan had the physicality as well. I'm not saying Zidane was a bad player, but he was overrated and couldn't do what Nolan did.

posted on 8/9/18

Imagine Zidane if he’d played under Fat Sam though?

posted on 8/9/18

comment by Cinciwolf--Top ten finish? Piece of pee (U11551)
posted 4 minutes ago
Lampard and Gerrard were just like Dave Edwards, run run run and be physical and all the cracks papered over because they had an eye for goal.

Iniesta completely dictated the style of play and was a major part of a style of football that revolutionized the feckin game.
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Yeah, playing alongside Xavi (who since he retired, Iniesta has looked half the player) and Busquets and behind the likes of Messi, Etoo, Henry, Villa, Neymar, Suarez etc had nothing to do with Barca dominating teams and putting them on the backfoot. It was all Iniesta "completely dictating" everything.

posted on 8/9/18

comment by Sheriff John Brown - Wenger Till I Die (U7482)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf--Top ten finish? Piece of pee (U11551)
posted 4 minutes ago
Lampard and Gerrard were just like Dave Edwards, run run run and be physical and all the cracks papered over because they had an eye for goal.

Iniesta completely dictated the style of play and was a major part of a style of football that revolutionized the feckin game.
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Yeah, playing alongside Xavi (who since he retired, Iniesta has looked half the player) and Busquets and behind the likes of Messi, Etoo, Henry, Villa, Neymar, Suarez etc had nothing to do with Barca dominating teams and putting them on the backfoot. It was all Iniesta "completely dictating" everything.
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I agree that playing behind Messi, Etoo, Henry, Neymar, Suarez is why Spain dominated international football.

posted on 8/9/18

drama at US open

posted on 8/9/18

Poor Frankie Lampard having to raise the standard of a Wheelchair XI.

posted on 8/9/18

comment by Passion Power - ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (U8398)
posted 28 minutes ago
drama at US open
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serena williams spitting her dummy out of the pram again when she loses, accusing everyone of cheating her

is she part english ?

posted on 8/9/18

nah, she has won before

posted on 9/9/18

comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted about 2 hours ago
Poor Frankie Lampard having to raise the standard of a Wheelchair XI.
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Oh shut up you gimp.

posted on 9/9/18

comment by Igør Rampard (U1993)
posted 6 hours, 42 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted about 2 hours ago
Poor Frankie Lampard having to raise the standard of a Wheelchair XI.
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Oh shut up you gimp.
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Alcohol aside, what's your problem?

posted on 9/9/18

comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Igør Rampard (U1993)
posted 6 hours, 42 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted about 2 hours ago
Poor Frankie Lampard having to raise the standard of a Wheelchair XI.
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Oh shut up you gimp.
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Alcohol aside, what's your problem?
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It's obvious no ?

posted on 9/9/18

Not to me, ping-pong.

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