It's not like those underlying issues I have highlighted haven't been present throughout the season, bar the one or two games,...even in certain good performances you could pick up on these things.
It's that reactive way of thinking that gets us into these situations in the first place.
The pressing element definitely appears to be missing from our game.
Whether that will return when Lallana is back in the side I don’t know but the current lack of it is definitely affecting our performance. Is it down to all the extra games?
Can’t ignore the biggest problem still are the terrible individual defensive errors though. Most of us knew we would struggle this year after no signings in the summer but nobody foresaw it being this bad.
Concentration levels are a big proble, too often we switch off in key areas, the first Spurs goal is an example of that, all looking around while Spurs just got on with it.
Generally the concentration levles in teh big games has been very good, and we looked composed v, an albeit tame united side, but we were not at it from the first minute v Spurs and they took full advantage.
It's a collective thing though, mostly with the defenders...so you have to ask...what does our pre-match preparation consist of?
we need Lallana back asap. He presses so hard and when one player presses it makes the others do similar.
anyone know when he is due to start? I know he is training right now?
Start in place of who though?
This is when Mane is back as well.
comment by T Bone Steak Roysters (U3947)
posted 2 minutes ago
we need Lallana back asap. He presses so hard and when one player presses it makes the others do similar.
anyone know when he is due to start? I know he is training right now?
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whos he playing instead of? coutinho in the 3rd midfield spot? unlikely since coutinho is a superior player, and i doubt we'd play both in midfield
apart from Coutinho our midfield has been hopless this season. Lallana over Henderson, Wiji and Milner. he was one of our best players last season. Hopefully he can adapt quickly after his Injury.
I would go -
Coutinho Lallana
Can/Hendo
You're unbalancing an already heavily unbalanced midfield.
Lallana and Mane should both be back after the next international break.
Be interesting to see how Klopp fits players in, but in all likelihood someone else will get injured between now and then anyway.
Lallana plays the Klopp way. Henderson isn't mobile enough right now. Gets turned and is not pressing as hard as he did last season.
Balanced form, not good nor bad, and everyone fit....from the midfield going forward we actually have a very good squad that in theory should not be too far off the top of the table...my honest opinion.
These players love making it difficult for themselves though.
comment by Firmino Can Karius {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 2 minutes ago
Balanced form, not good nor bad, and everyone fit....from the midfield going forward we actually have a very good squad that in theory should not be too far off the top of the table...my honest opinion.
These players love making it difficult for themselves though.
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I agree and when we get Kieta we will have a good midfield and attack. We just need a keeper and defence
I would play wijnaldum as the deepest player. Van Gaal played him there for us(dutch) in the world cup and he was very good. Lallana is the one we have missed. Combines the pressing with the link up play and can pass the hall between the lines. He is a typical Klopp player.
I’d like to see Wijnaldum Can and Lallana as a three personally, keeping Coutinho as a wide player and maybe trying Mane as a centre forward.
I think it will have more balance personally. I have nothing against Henderson like others on here I just think he’s having a poor season. He’s our captain but he’s got to earn his place like the others and he’s not doing it currently.
comment by Adam 'The Interview' Lallana (U20650)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
comment by T Bone Steak Roysters (U3947)
posted 2 minutes ago
we need Lallana back asap. He presses so hard and when one player presses it makes the others do similar.
anyone know when he is due to start? I know he is training right now?
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whos he playing instead of? coutinho in the 3rd midfield spot? unlikely since coutinho is a superior player, and i doubt we'd play both in midfield
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Hasn't the Senegal manager said he expects Mane to play in their next game? Be annoying if he did.
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 21 minutes ago
I’d like to see Wijnaldum Can and Lallana as a three personally, keeping Coutinho as a wide player and maybe trying Mane as a centre forward.
I think it will have more balance personally. I have nothing against Henderson like others on here I just think he’s having a poor season. He’s our captain but he’s got to earn his place like the others and he’s not doing it currently.
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This ^ I have put Hendo down but I rate him as a player jsut not right now as he looks sluggish and negative for some reason and I think his injury and constant pain killing injections is hindering him form playing the style we are used to.
Lallana Can and Wiji would have bags of energy compared to our current line up. Even add Milner to that mix who made a lot of movement and runs all be it against Maribor.
Paul Joyce is saying that the club did not deliver the signings in the summer that Klopp had put the groundwork into.
Same old story no matter who is in charge
Gotta be about Vvd.
Some muppet at the club leaked it, annoyed Saints
Keita was a bit more difficult
Like us with Coutinho they didn't want to sell.
True...we secured it in the end which is great...thanks to some prior tapping up I think because his heart has always been set on the move.
VVD could still well happen as well.
I hope.
I hope VVD happens in the January window.
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posted on 24/10/17
It's not like those underlying issues I have highlighted haven't been present throughout the season, bar the one or two games,...even in certain good performances you could pick up on these things.
It's that reactive way of thinking that gets us into these situations in the first place.
posted on 24/10/17
The pressing element definitely appears to be missing from our game.
Whether that will return when Lallana is back in the side I don’t know but the current lack of it is definitely affecting our performance. Is it down to all the extra games?
Can’t ignore the biggest problem still are the terrible individual defensive errors though. Most of us knew we would struggle this year after no signings in the summer but nobody foresaw it being this bad.
posted on 24/10/17
Concentration levels are a big proble, too often we switch off in key areas, the first Spurs goal is an example of that, all looking around while Spurs just got on with it.
Generally the concentration levles in teh big games has been very good, and we looked composed v, an albeit tame united side, but we were not at it from the first minute v Spurs and they took full advantage.
posted on 24/10/17
It's a collective thing though, mostly with the defenders...so you have to ask...what does our pre-match preparation consist of?
posted on 24/10/17
we need Lallana back asap. He presses so hard and when one player presses it makes the others do similar.
anyone know when he is due to start? I know he is training right now?
posted on 24/10/17
Start in place of who though?
posted on 24/10/17
This is when Mane is back as well.
posted on 24/10/17
comment by T Bone Steak Roysters (U3947)
posted 2 minutes ago
we need Lallana back asap. He presses so hard and when one player presses it makes the others do similar.
anyone know when he is due to start? I know he is training right now?
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whos he playing instead of? coutinho in the 3rd midfield spot? unlikely since coutinho is a superior player, and i doubt we'd play both in midfield
posted on 24/10/17
apart from Coutinho our midfield has been hopless this season. Lallana over Henderson, Wiji and Milner. he was one of our best players last season. Hopefully he can adapt quickly after his Injury.
I would go -
Coutinho Lallana
Can/Hendo
posted on 24/10/17
You're unbalancing an already heavily unbalanced midfield.
posted on 24/10/17
Lallana and Mane should both be back after the next international break.
Be interesting to see how Klopp fits players in, but in all likelihood someone else will get injured between now and then anyway.
posted on 24/10/17
Lallana plays the Klopp way. Henderson isn't mobile enough right now. Gets turned and is not pressing as hard as he did last season.
posted on 24/10/17
Balanced form, not good nor bad, and everyone fit....from the midfield going forward we actually have a very good squad that in theory should not be too far off the top of the table...my honest opinion.
These players love making it difficult for themselves though.
posted on 24/10/17
comment by Firmino Can Karius {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 2 minutes ago
Balanced form, not good nor bad, and everyone fit....from the midfield going forward we actually have a very good squad that in theory should not be too far off the top of the table...my honest opinion.
These players love making it difficult for themselves though.
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I agree and when we get Kieta we will have a good midfield and attack. We just need a keeper and defence
posted on 24/10/17
I would play wijnaldum as the deepest player. Van Gaal played him there for us(dutch) in the world cup and he was very good. Lallana is the one we have missed. Combines the pressing with the link up play and can pass the hall between the lines. He is a typical Klopp player.
posted on 24/10/17
I’d like to see Wijnaldum Can and Lallana as a three personally, keeping Coutinho as a wide player and maybe trying Mane as a centre forward.
I think it will have more balance personally. I have nothing against Henderson like others on here I just think he’s having a poor season. He’s our captain but he’s got to earn his place like the others and he’s not doing it currently.
posted on 24/10/17
comment by Adam 'The Interview' Lallana (U20650)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
comment by T Bone Steak Roysters (U3947)
posted 2 minutes ago
we need Lallana back asap. He presses so hard and when one player presses it makes the others do similar.
anyone know when he is due to start? I know he is training right now?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
whos he playing instead of? coutinho in the 3rd midfield spot? unlikely since coutinho is a superior player, and i doubt we'd play both in midfield
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Hasn't the Senegal manager said he expects Mane to play in their next game? Be annoying if he did.
posted on 24/10/17
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 21 minutes ago
I’d like to see Wijnaldum Can and Lallana as a three personally, keeping Coutinho as a wide player and maybe trying Mane as a centre forward.
I think it will have more balance personally. I have nothing against Henderson like others on here I just think he’s having a poor season. He’s our captain but he’s got to earn his place like the others and he’s not doing it currently.
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This ^ I have put Hendo down but I rate him as a player jsut not right now as he looks sluggish and negative for some reason and I think his injury and constant pain killing injections is hindering him form playing the style we are used to.
Lallana Can and Wiji would have bags of energy compared to our current line up. Even add Milner to that mix who made a lot of movement and runs all be it against Maribor.
posted on 24/10/17
Paul Joyce is saying that the club did not deliver the signings in the summer that Klopp had put the groundwork into.
Same old story no matter who is in charge
posted on 24/10/17
Gotta be about Vvd.
Some muppet at the club leaked it, annoyed Saints
posted on 24/10/17
Yeah...Keita & VVD
posted on 24/10/17
Keita was a bit more difficult
Like us with Coutinho they didn't want to sell.
posted on 24/10/17
True...we secured it in the end which is great...thanks to some prior tapping up I think because his heart has always been set on the move.
posted on 24/10/17
VVD could still well happen as well.
I hope.
posted on 24/10/17
I hope VVD happens in the January window.
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