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I'm about to go on a mad rant... it's about tickets and greedy fackers..
Jnr and I have been to every single home game in European competition since the 2016/17 season, that's the whole Europa run to Basel. The whole run to the Karius final and the whole run to Madrid (not final).
All the home games this year.
Through all that I thought I would be certain to get tickets for Atletico. So logged on bang on time waiting, and at 9am, the match was sold out. Wtf.. refreshed and wasted another hour, still sold out. Thought system was down so I called up the ticketing help line (all sales are through the web)
Got told that UEFA stipulate how many tickets they want per match up to 8,000 of them.
That's upto 16%.
What's made it worse this year is that season ticket holders - even those with less european games, managed to get themselves access to the autocup scheme for the champions league that needed certain european matches on there. This was my preferred way of getting tickets as you have the same guys around you all the time.
However as season ticket holders managed to get priority access to the autocup scheme they had also all sold out. Wrote to Peter Moores who says "it's just the ACS"
so now, no tickets for Atletico.
The round following Atletico will need attendance at Atletico, so effectively no chance. Also for next seasons CL it will require you to have at least the last match played in the CL to be able to get tickets to the group stage.
Basically because of greedy cants who can't be asked to go to European games until we are facking boss jnr and I are at the back of the queue and feel really disenfranchised.
Despite being there to support the team through some really great nights. Not just Dortmund, and Barca, but also those key games v PSG, and Napoli at home.
It is facking shiittt....
anyways after going back and forth negotiating with the vendor he finally agreed to my house offer which is 47,500 quid less than the price he agreed with another buyer 5 months ago. They ended up pulling out a few days before completion due to a break in their chain.
We carry no chain as we've already sold our gaff
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posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
“Lucky Liverpool.”
It’s a phrase that’s been frequently muttered by pundits as well as rival supporters, players and managers over the course of this remarkable season. Grudging respect in some quarters for their record-breaking run of results in the most one-sided top-flight campaign in history has been accompanied by the caveat that good fortune has repeatedly shone on Jurgen Klopp’s team.
You’ve heard all the talk. Liverpool have been lucky with injuries whereas Manchester City have been severely hampered by the loss of key personnel such as Aymeric Laporte and Leroy Sane.
And what about all those controversial VAR decisions going the way of Klopp’s side? And don’t get them started on all those spawny late winners that have secured victories by the narrowest of margins.
A narrative has been created in some quarters that the stars have aligned for Liverpool this season, that a first top-flight crown for 30 years has simply fallen into their lap.
It is complete and utter nonsense.
Reflecting on the 22-point chasm that currently separates his back-to-back champions from the runaway leaders, City midfielder Bernardo Silva told TV broadcasters last week: “It’s not just luck. Liverpool have a lot of merit. But with the little details, everything went their way.
“I think little details make a huge difference and if you look at us this season, all the little details never went our way. If you look at the injuries we’ve had and the VAR decisions that never went our way, we’ve not been as lucky as in the past seasons. We always concede in the last minute, Liverpool always score in the last minutes, and these little details in football make the difference.”
After Klopp’s men held on to win at Tottenham Hotspur last month, Jose Mourinho branded Liverpool “so good, so strong and on top of that, they are lucky… they could perfectly concede a goal, they could perfectly finish the game with 10 because the VAR at that time, they were having a tea…”
Before Christmas, pundit Jermaine Jenas talked about Liverpool “having some huge slices of luck with VAR decisions going their way and last-minute winners” before adding, “Yes, it takes that to win a league, but can it continue?”
Robert Pires recently backed Klopp’s men to emulate his Arsenal Invincibles from 2003-04 by going the entire campaign unbeaten. The former winger saying, “Yes, because they have everything going for them: the team, the results, the luck, the coach.”
The argument that Liverpool have been fortunate on the injury front this season simply doesn’t stand up to scrutiny. It just gets overlooked because they have been able to cope so impressively without key personnel.
Rewind to August, when the opening night’s win over Norwich City was soured by the sight of Alisson limping off with a torn calf muscle. There were fears that a title challenge would be derailed in his absence.
Liverpool were without the best goalkeeper in world football for 10 weeks but they didn’t drop a single point while he was sidelined. Why? Because they had recruited wisely and Adrian, a free agent after being released by West Ham United, flourished after being thrown in at the deep end during that Norwich game.
It’s a telling stat that the XI who started the Champions League final against Tottenham last June have not lined up together since.
When Alisson made his comeback at Old Trafford in October, Mohamed Salah was out with an ankle injury. Joel Matip, who aggravated a knee problem that day, hasn’t graced the Premier League since that 1-1 draw with Manchester United. The Cameroon international has started just seven league games in 2019-20.
The reason why there was so little focus on Matip’s absence is that he wasn’t missed. Dejan Lovren filled the void before his own injury issues led to Joe Gomez being handed the extended, and ongoing, run at centre-back he craved.
Gomez has excelled since early December alongside Virgil van Dijk. That’s not luck: it’s down to planning, coaching and man-management. Klopp, who ensured he had sufficient high-quality back-up whereas City failed to replace Vincent Kompany, revived the England international’s confidence and got the best out of him at a time when he was down to just two fit centre-backs.
Fabinho is an integral part of the Liverpool team. The Brazilian midfielder is nicknamed the “lighthouse” by assistant boss Pep Lijnders in recognition of his influence on those around him. Yet in mid-November, Klopp lost him for eight weeks after he damaged ankle ligaments against Napoli in the Champions League.
Rivals finally sensed a chink in Liverpool’s armour but Jordan Henderson dropped into the holding role and momentum was maintained in style. Now released to play further forward, the club captain is in the form of his life and deservedly being touted for the PFA Player of the Year award.
Much was expected of Naby Keita and Xherdan Shaqiri but injuries have limited them to just four league starts between them all season. James Milner has just regained fitness after six weeks out.
Some have short memories. At the start of 2020, Klopp was down to 13 fit senior players having played Henderson at centre-back en route to winning the Club World Cup in Qatar.
But what about VAR?, you say.
The perception is that Liverpool have benefited greatly from the introduction of the technology and the muddled manner in which it has been used.
Seven goals have been overturned by VAR in Liverpool’s 25 league matches. The only goal given to Klopp’s men that wasn’t awarded on the field was Sadio Mane’s winner against Wolverhampton Wanderers at Anfield in late December. Replays showed the ball clearly bounced off Adam Lallana’s shoulder into Mane’s path rather than off his arm.
Liverpool have had three goals disallowed by VAR — the same number as teams playing against them.
Mane was denied both away to Manchester United (handball) and at home to Watford (offside), while Roberto Firmino’s celebrations were curtailed at home to Manchester United (a foul by Van Dijk on David de Gea). Chelsea’s Mason Mount (offside), Crystal Palace’s James Tomkins (a push by Jordan Ayew on Lovren) and Wolves’ Pedro Neto (offside) have been thwarted by VAR decisions against Liverpool.
Yes, a number of other tight calls have gone their way but there have been just as many which have left Klopp feeling perplexed, not least the foul on Divock Origi by Victor Lindelof which went unpunished in the build-up to Manchester United opening the scoring at Old Trafford — the only time Liverpool have dropped any points in the last 11 months.
Lewis Dunk’s free kick for Brighton & Hove Albion which set up a nervy finale at Anfield in late November shouldn’t have been allowed to stand as opposition players weren’t stood at least a yard away from the defending wall. Then there was the VAR ruling that Firmino’s armpit was offside when he scored away to Aston Villa in November and the clear shove by Southampton’s Shane Long on the same player which was ignored at Anfield earlier this month.
Talking of penalties, Liverpool have been awarded five in the Premier League this season. Manchester City have had six. Manchester United lead the way with nine.
As for the focus on narrow margins and last-gasp winners, 13 of Liverpool’s 24 league victories so far this season have been achieved by more than one goal.
In terms of late drama, there was James Milner’s stoppage-time penalty to beat Leicester City in October and Lallana’s equaliser at Old Trafford. The trip to Villa Park saw Liverpool rally from 1-0 down with three minutes to go to seal all three points as Andy Robertson struck before Mane took centre stage. That result was a body blow for Guardiola as it preserved Liverpool’s six-point cushion at that time.
Luck? No. It comes down to mentality and the environment Klopp has created. Even Guardiola admitted that when emotions were running high after he learned about Mane’s late show that day.
“If it’s one time, two times [then it’s] ‘We were lucky, we were lucky’ but it happened in the last two seasons many, many times — they have a special character to do that,“ he told reporters.
Those words were lost after he branded Mane “a diver”, something he later retracted.
Guardiola also revealed that he had explained to his kids that good fortune wasn’t at the heart of Liverpool’s late shows.
“My son and my daughter, when they win in the last minutes, they ask me how lucky they are. I say, ‘It’s not lucky,’” he revealed. “What Liverpool have done last season and this season many times is because they have this incredible quality and this incredible talent to fight until the end.”
Firmino has since bagged late winners away to Crystal Palace and Wolves. One came from a corner, the other from a carefully-worked throw-in routine.
Klopp has made Liverpool the set-piece kings of the Premier League with the help of the expert analysis and planning of assistants Lijnders and Peter Krawietz, who pinpoint weaknesses to exploit. Some sniggered when it emerged that Klopp had employed a throw-in coach in Thomas Gronnemark but his impact is clear for all to see.
Marginal gains are at the heart of what Klopp has built. Fitness also comes into it. Liverpool are relentless. They outwork teams and it’s hardly surprising that opponents crack when limbs are weary.
Of course, there’s been an element of fortuity in some games. They were indebted to a blunder from Dean Henderson for Georginio Wijnaldum’s winner at Sheffield United. Giovani Lo Celso missed a sitter to salvage a point for Tottenham in the capital. Wolves’ Diogo Jota did likewise at Molineux.
“In life and football, without luck, you don’t have a chance,” Klopp told reporters recently when he was reflecting on a defensive record which has seen his side concede just one goal in their last 10 league games.
Liverpool haven’t needed much of it, though. Their breathtaking consistency speaks for itself. They have taken 100 points out of the last 102 on offer. They are just seven games short of Arsenal’s all-time record of 49 league games unbeaten.
For those whose loyalties lie away from Anfield, the Premier League table makes for uncomfortable viewing. It’s a source of embarrassment that in mid-February, we already have a procession rather than a title race.
As a result, some would rather come up with lame excuses rather than pay full credit to what Klopp, sporting director Michael Edwards and owners Fenway Sports Group have created.
Lucky Liverpool? Give me a break.
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Klopp has made Liverpool the set-piece kings of the Premier League with the help of the expert analysis and planning of assistants Lijnders and Peter Krawietz, who pinpoint weaknesses to exploit.
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Imagine how many we'd score if we didnt fail to hit the first defender 9/10
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comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
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I'm about to go on a mad rant... it's about tickets and greedy fackers..
Jnr and I have been to every single home game in European competition since the 2016/17 season, that's the whole Europa run to Basel. The whole run to the Karius final and the whole run to Madrid (not final).
All the home games this year.
Through all that I thought I would be certain to get tickets for Atletico. So logged on bang on time waiting, and at 9am, the match was sold out. Wtf.. refreshed and wasted another hour, still sold out. Thought system was down so I called up the ticketing help line (all sales are through the web)
Got told that UEFA stipulate how many tickets they want per match up to 8,000 of them.
That's upto 16%.
What's made it worse this year is that season ticket holders - even those with less european games, managed to get themselves access to the autocup scheme for the champions league that needed certain european matches on there. This was my preferred way of getting tickets as you have the same guys around you all the time.
However as season ticket holders managed to get priority access to the autocup scheme they had also all sold out. Wrote to Peter Moores who says "it's just the ACS"
so now, no tickets for Atletico.
The round following Atletico will need attendance at Atletico, so effectively no chance. Also for next seasons CL it will require you to have at least the last match played in the CL to be able to get tickets to the group stage.
Basically because of greedy cants who can't be asked to go to European games until we are facking boss jnr and I are at the back of the queue and feel really disenfranchised.
Despite being there to support the team through some really great nights. Not just Dortmund, and Barca, but also those key games v PSG, and Napoli at home.
It is facking shiittt....
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I've bought membership every year for years, since I left the supporters club I was a member of.
I have never once been able to get a ticket through the website, using the members page as priority goes to 'L' post codes, which is fair enough but then nothing is ever left over, as soon as you click to enter when it opens, sold out.
I can't even get cup games as you have to go to one, using your membership, to get access to another. How can I go to one if it doesn't allow me?
So I only get tickets through travel agents and other crap, which cost around £150, not including travel and hotel.
To be honest I gave up on tickets a long time ago. I was taken for a ride two separate times while trying to get quick tickets when I'm in the country. I'm a TV fan and I've come to terms with that.
At least you dont need tickets for an open top bus parade
comment by Inbefore - still yet to realise my ambition of... (U20589)
posted 28 minutes ago
Klopp has made Liverpool the set-piece kings of the Premier League with the help of the expert analysis and planning of assistants Lijnders and Peter Krawietz, who pinpoint weaknesses to exploit.
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Imagine how many we'd score if we didnt fail to hit the first defender 9/10
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We don't fail to hit the first defender 9/10. This is why we have such a great set piece record.
People expect too much from set pieces. Set pieces are taken when defences are set to defend them, that's why statistically you have a low chance of scoring form them.
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comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 1 hour, 18 minutes ago
I'm about to go on a mad rant... it's about tickets and greedy fackers..
Jnr and I have been to every single home game in European competition since the 2016/17 season, that's the whole Europa run to Basel. The whole run to the Karius final and the whole run to Madrid (not final).
All the home games this year.
Through all that I thought I would be certain to get tickets for Atletico. So logged on bang on time waiting, and at 9am, the match was sold out. Wtf.. refreshed and wasted another hour, still sold out. Thought system was down so I called up the ticketing help line (all sales are through the web)
Got told that UEFA stipulate how many tickets they want per match up to 8,000 of them.
That's upto 16%.
What's made it worse this year is that season ticket holders - even those with less european games, managed to get themselves access to the autocup scheme for the champions league that needed certain european matches on there. This was my preferred way of getting tickets as you have the same guys around you all the time.
However as season ticket holders managed to get priority access to the autocup scheme they had also all sold out. Wrote to Peter Moores who says "it's just the ACS"
so now, no tickets for Atletico.
The round following Atletico will need attendance at Atletico, so effectively no chance. Also for next seasons CL it will require you to have at least the last match played in the CL to be able to get tickets to the group stage.
Basically because of greedy cants who can't be asked to go to European games until we are facking boss jnr and I are at the back of the queue and feel really disenfranchised.
Despite being there to support the team through some really great nights. Not just Dortmund, and Barca, but also those key games v PSG, and Napoli at home.
It is facking shiittt....
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I've bought membership every year for years, since I left the supporters club I was a member of.
I have never once been able to get a ticket through the website, using the members page as priority goes to 'L' post codes, which is fair enough but then nothing is ever left over, as soon as you click to enter when it opens, sold out.
I can't even get cup games as you have to go to one, using your membership, to get access to another. How can I go to one if it doesn't allow me?
So I only get tickets through travel agents and other crap, which cost around £150, not including travel and hotel.
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To right. Proper fans. Not these forum fans
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comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
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I'm about to go on a mad rant... it's about tickets and greedy fackers..
Jnr and I have been to every single home game in European competition since the 2016/17 season, that's the whole Europa run to Basel. The whole run to the Karius final and the whole run to Madrid (not final).
All the home games this year.
Through all that I thought I would be certain to get tickets for Atletico. So logged on bang on time waiting, and at 9am, the match was sold out. Wtf.. refreshed and wasted another hour, still sold out. Thought system was down so I called up the ticketing help line (all sales are through the web)
Got told that UEFA stipulate how many tickets they want per match up to 8,000 of them.
That's upto 16%.
What's made it worse this year is that season ticket holders - even those with less european games, managed to get themselves access to the autocup scheme for the champions league that needed certain european matches on there. This was my preferred way of getting tickets as you have the same guys around you all the time.
However as season ticket holders managed to get priority access to the autocup scheme they had also all sold out. Wrote to Peter Moores who says "it's just the ACS"
so now, no tickets for Atletico.
The round following Atletico will need attendance at Atletico, so effectively no chance. Also for next seasons CL it will require you to have at least the last match played in the CL to be able to get tickets to the group stage.
Basically because of greedy cants who can't be asked to go to European games until we are facking boss jnr and I are at the back of the queue and feel really disenfranchised.
Despite being there to support the team through some really great nights. Not just Dortmund, and Barca, but also those key games v PSG, and Napoli at home.
It is facking shiittt....
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I've bought membership every year for years, since I left the supporters club I was a member of.
I have never once been able to get a ticket through the website, using the members page as priority goes to 'L' post codes, which is fair enough but then nothing is ever left over, as soon as you click to enter when it opens, sold out.
I can't even get cup games as you have to go to one, using your membership, to get access to another. How can I go to one if it doesn't allow me?
So I only get tickets through travel agents and other crap, which cost around £150, not including travel and hotel.
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To right. Proper fans. Not these forum fans
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Go play with your Everton mates on your own board. Oh that's right, there aren't any, you chased them away. <rofl.
What a tragic life Arouna lives, pitiful.
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Go play with your Everton mates on your own board. Oh that's right, there aren't any, you chased them away. <rofl.
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I'm South African bruh...we don't even have electricity here.
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I'm about to go on a mad rant... it's about tickets and greedy fackers..
Jnr and I have been to every single home game in European competition since the 2016/17 season, that's the whole Europa run to Basel. The whole run to the Karius final and the whole run to Madrid (not final).
All the home games this year.
Through all that I thought I would be certain to get tickets for Atletico. So logged on bang on time waiting, and at 9am, the match was sold out. Wtf.. refreshed and wasted another hour, still sold out. Thought system was down so I called up the ticketing help line (all sales are through the web)
Got told that UEFA stipulate how many tickets they want per match up to 8,000 of them.
That's upto 16%.
What's made it worse this year is that season ticket holders - even those with less european games, managed to get themselves access to the autocup scheme for the champions league that needed certain european matches on there. This was my preferred way of getting tickets as you have the same guys around you all the time.
However as season ticket holders managed to get priority access to the autocup scheme they had also all sold out. Wrote to Peter Moores who says "it's just the ACS"
so now, no tickets for Atletico.
The round following Atletico will need attendance at Atletico, so effectively no chance. Also for next seasons CL it will require you to have at least the last match played in the CL to be able to get tickets to the group stage.
Basically because of greedy cants who can't be asked to go to European games until we are facking boss jnr and I are at the back of the queue and feel really disenfranchised.
Despite being there to support the team through some really great nights. Not just Dortmund, and Barca, but also those key games v PSG, and Napoli at home.
It is facking shiittt....
posted on 14/2/20
anyways after going back and forth negotiating with the vendor he finally agreed to my house offer which is 47,500 quid less than the price he agreed with another buyer 5 months ago. They ended up pulling out a few days before completion due to a break in their chain.
We carry no chain as we've already sold our gaff
posted on 14/2/20
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
“Lucky Liverpool.”
It’s a phrase that’s been frequently muttered by pundits as well as rival supporters, players and managers over the course of this remarkable season. Grudging respect in some quarters for their record-breaking run of results in the most one-sided top-flight campaign in history has been accompanied by the caveat that good fortune has repeatedly shone on Jurgen Klopp’s team.
You’ve heard all the talk. Liverpool have been lucky with injuries whereas Manchester City have been severely hampered by the loss of key personnel such as Aymeric Laporte and Leroy Sane.
And what about all those controversial VAR decisions going the way of Klopp’s side? And don’t get them started on all those spawny late winners that have secured victories by the narrowest of margins.
A narrative has been created in some quarters that the stars have aligned for Liverpool this season, that a first top-flight crown for 30 years has simply fallen into their lap.
It is complete and utter nonsense.
Reflecting on the 22-point chasm that currently separates his back-to-back champions from the runaway leaders, City midfielder Bernardo Silva told TV broadcasters last week: “It’s not just luck. Liverpool have a lot of merit. But with the little details, everything went their way.
“I think little details make a huge difference and if you look at us this season, all the little details never went our way. If you look at the injuries we’ve had and the VAR decisions that never went our way, we’ve not been as lucky as in the past seasons. We always concede in the last minute, Liverpool always score in the last minutes, and these little details in football make the difference.”
After Klopp’s men held on to win at Tottenham Hotspur last month, Jose Mourinho branded Liverpool “so good, so strong and on top of that, they are lucky… they could perfectly concede a goal, they could perfectly finish the game with 10 because the VAR at that time, they were having a tea…”
Before Christmas, pundit Jermaine Jenas talked about Liverpool “having some huge slices of luck with VAR decisions going their way and last-minute winners” before adding, “Yes, it takes that to win a league, but can it continue?”
Robert Pires recently backed Klopp’s men to emulate his Arsenal Invincibles from 2003-04 by going the entire campaign unbeaten. The former winger saying, “Yes, because they have everything going for them: the team, the results, the luck, the coach.”
The argument that Liverpool have been fortunate on the injury front this season simply doesn’t stand up to scrutiny. It just gets overlooked because they have been able to cope so impressively without key personnel.
Rewind to August, when the opening night’s win over Norwich City was soured by the sight of Alisson limping off with a torn calf muscle. There were fears that a title challenge would be derailed in his absence.
Liverpool were without the best goalkeeper in world football for 10 weeks but they didn’t drop a single point while he was sidelined. Why? Because they had recruited wisely and Adrian, a free agent after being released by West Ham United, flourished after being thrown in at the deep end during that Norwich game.
It’s a telling stat that the XI who started the Champions League final against Tottenham last June have not lined up together since.
When Alisson made his comeback at Old Trafford in October, Mohamed Salah was out with an ankle injury. Joel Matip, who aggravated a knee problem that day, hasn’t graced the Premier League since that 1-1 draw with Manchester United. The Cameroon international has started just seven league games in 2019-20.
The reason why there was so little focus on Matip’s absence is that he wasn’t missed. Dejan Lovren filled the void before his own injury issues led to Joe Gomez being handed the extended, and ongoing, run at centre-back he craved.
Gomez has excelled since early December alongside Virgil van Dijk. That’s not luck: it’s down to planning, coaching and man-management. Klopp, who ensured he had sufficient high-quality back-up whereas City failed to replace Vincent Kompany, revived the England international’s confidence and got the best out of him at a time when he was down to just two fit centre-backs.
Fabinho is an integral part of the Liverpool team. The Brazilian midfielder is nicknamed the “lighthouse” by assistant boss Pep Lijnders in recognition of his influence on those around him. Yet in mid-November, Klopp lost him for eight weeks after he damaged ankle ligaments against Napoli in the Champions League.
Rivals finally sensed a chink in Liverpool’s armour but Jordan Henderson dropped into the holding role and momentum was maintained in style. Now released to play further forward, the club captain is in the form of his life and deservedly being touted for the PFA Player of the Year award.
Much was expected of Naby Keita and Xherdan Shaqiri but injuries have limited them to just four league starts between them all season. James Milner has just regained fitness after six weeks out.
Some have short memories. At the start of 2020, Klopp was down to 13 fit senior players having played Henderson at centre-back en route to winning the Club World Cup in Qatar.
But what about VAR?, you say.
The perception is that Liverpool have benefited greatly from the introduction of the technology and the muddled manner in which it has been used.
Seven goals have been overturned by VAR in Liverpool’s 25 league matches. The only goal given to Klopp’s men that wasn’t awarded on the field was Sadio Mane’s winner against Wolverhampton Wanderers at Anfield in late December. Replays showed the ball clearly bounced off Adam Lallana’s shoulder into Mane’s path rather than off his arm.
Liverpool have had three goals disallowed by VAR — the same number as teams playing against them.
Mane was denied both away to Manchester United (handball) and at home to Watford (offside), while Roberto Firmino’s celebrations were curtailed at home to Manchester United (a foul by Van Dijk on David de Gea). Chelsea’s Mason Mount (offside), Crystal Palace’s James Tomkins (a push by Jordan Ayew on Lovren) and Wolves’ Pedro Neto (offside) have been thwarted by VAR decisions against Liverpool.
Yes, a number of other tight calls have gone their way but there have been just as many which have left Klopp feeling perplexed, not least the foul on Divock Origi by Victor Lindelof which went unpunished in the build-up to Manchester United opening the scoring at Old Trafford — the only time Liverpool have dropped any points in the last 11 months.
Lewis Dunk’s free kick for Brighton & Hove Albion which set up a nervy finale at Anfield in late November shouldn’t have been allowed to stand as opposition players weren’t stood at least a yard away from the defending wall. Then there was the VAR ruling that Firmino’s armpit was offside when he scored away to Aston Villa in November and the clear shove by Southampton’s Shane Long on the same player which was ignored at Anfield earlier this month.
Talking of penalties, Liverpool have been awarded five in the Premier League this season. Manchester City have had six. Manchester United lead the way with nine.
As for the focus on narrow margins and last-gasp winners, 13 of Liverpool’s 24 league victories so far this season have been achieved by more than one goal.
In terms of late drama, there was James Milner’s stoppage-time penalty to beat Leicester City in October and Lallana’s equaliser at Old Trafford. The trip to Villa Park saw Liverpool rally from 1-0 down with three minutes to go to seal all three points as Andy Robertson struck before Mane took centre stage. That result was a body blow for Guardiola as it preserved Liverpool’s six-point cushion at that time.
Luck? No. It comes down to mentality and the environment Klopp has created. Even Guardiola admitted that when emotions were running high after he learned about Mane’s late show that day.
“If it’s one time, two times [then it’s] ‘We were lucky, we were lucky’ but it happened in the last two seasons many, many times — they have a special character to do that,“ he told reporters.
Those words were lost after he branded Mane “a diver”, something he later retracted.
Guardiola also revealed that he had explained to his kids that good fortune wasn’t at the heart of Liverpool’s late shows.
“My son and my daughter, when they win in the last minutes, they ask me how lucky they are. I say, ‘It’s not lucky,’” he revealed. “What Liverpool have done last season and this season many times is because they have this incredible quality and this incredible talent to fight until the end.”
Firmino has since bagged late winners away to Crystal Palace and Wolves. One came from a corner, the other from a carefully-worked throw-in routine.
Klopp has made Liverpool the set-piece kings of the Premier League with the help of the expert analysis and planning of assistants Lijnders and Peter Krawietz, who pinpoint weaknesses to exploit. Some sniggered when it emerged that Klopp had employed a throw-in coach in Thomas Gronnemark but his impact is clear for all to see.
Marginal gains are at the heart of what Klopp has built. Fitness also comes into it. Liverpool are relentless. They outwork teams and it’s hardly surprising that opponents crack when limbs are weary.
Of course, there’s been an element of fortuity in some games. They were indebted to a blunder from Dean Henderson for Georginio Wijnaldum’s winner at Sheffield United. Giovani Lo Celso missed a sitter to salvage a point for Tottenham in the capital. Wolves’ Diogo Jota did likewise at Molineux.
“In life and football, without luck, you don’t have a chance,” Klopp told reporters recently when he was reflecting on a defensive record which has seen his side concede just one goal in their last 10 league games.
Liverpool haven’t needed much of it, though. Their breathtaking consistency speaks for itself. They have taken 100 points out of the last 102 on offer. They are just seven games short of Arsenal’s all-time record of 49 league games unbeaten.
For those whose loyalties lie away from Anfield, the Premier League table makes for uncomfortable viewing. It’s a source of embarrassment that in mid-February, we already have a procession rather than a title race.
As a result, some would rather come up with lame excuses rather than pay full credit to what Klopp, sporting director Michael Edwards and owners Fenway Sports Group have created.
Lucky Liverpool? Give me a break.
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James Pearce forgot about the armpit v Villa
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Cheers Fred
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Klopp has made Liverpool the set-piece kings of the Premier League with the help of the expert analysis and planning of assistants Lijnders and Peter Krawietz, who pinpoint weaknesses to exploit.
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Imagine how many we'd score if we didnt fail to hit the first defender 9/10
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Stop spamming the thread ffs
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comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 1 hour, 18 minutes ago
I'm about to go on a mad rant... it's about tickets and greedy fackers..
Jnr and I have been to every single home game in European competition since the 2016/17 season, that's the whole Europa run to Basel. The whole run to the Karius final and the whole run to Madrid (not final).
All the home games this year.
Through all that I thought I would be certain to get tickets for Atletico. So logged on bang on time waiting, and at 9am, the match was sold out. Wtf.. refreshed and wasted another hour, still sold out. Thought system was down so I called up the ticketing help line (all sales are through the web)
Got told that UEFA stipulate how many tickets they want per match up to 8,000 of them.
That's upto 16%.
What's made it worse this year is that season ticket holders - even those with less european games, managed to get themselves access to the autocup scheme for the champions league that needed certain european matches on there. This was my preferred way of getting tickets as you have the same guys around you all the time.
However as season ticket holders managed to get priority access to the autocup scheme they had also all sold out. Wrote to Peter Moores who says "it's just the ACS"
so now, no tickets for Atletico.
The round following Atletico will need attendance at Atletico, so effectively no chance. Also for next seasons CL it will require you to have at least the last match played in the CL to be able to get tickets to the group stage.
Basically because of greedy cants who can't be asked to go to European games until we are facking boss jnr and I are at the back of the queue and feel really disenfranchised.
Despite being there to support the team through some really great nights. Not just Dortmund, and Barca, but also those key games v PSG, and Napoli at home.
It is facking shiittt....
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I've bought membership every year for years, since I left the supporters club I was a member of.
I have never once been able to get a ticket through the website, using the members page as priority goes to 'L' post codes, which is fair enough but then nothing is ever left over, as soon as you click to enter when it opens, sold out.
I can't even get cup games as you have to go to one, using your membership, to get access to another. How can I go to one if it doesn't allow me?
So I only get tickets through travel agents and other crap, which cost around £150, not including travel and hotel.
posted on 14/2/20
To be honest I gave up on tickets a long time ago. I was taken for a ride two separate times while trying to get quick tickets when I'm in the country. I'm a TV fan and I've come to terms with that.
At least you dont need tickets for an open top bus parade
posted on 14/2/20
comment by Inbefore - still yet to realise my ambition of... (U20589)
posted 28 minutes ago
Klopp has made Liverpool the set-piece kings of the Premier League with the help of the expert analysis and planning of assistants Lijnders and Peter Krawietz, who pinpoint weaknesses to exploit.
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Imagine how many we'd score if we didnt fail to hit the first defender 9/10
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We don't fail to hit the first defender 9/10. This is why we have such a great set piece record.
People expect too much from set pieces. Set pieces are taken when defences are set to defend them, that's why statistically you have a low chance of scoring form them.
posted on 14/2/20
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 1 hour, 18 minutes ago
I'm about to go on a mad rant... it's about tickets and greedy fackers..
Jnr and I have been to every single home game in European competition since the 2016/17 season, that's the whole Europa run to Basel. The whole run to the Karius final and the whole run to Madrid (not final).
All the home games this year.
Through all that I thought I would be certain to get tickets for Atletico. So logged on bang on time waiting, and at 9am, the match was sold out. Wtf.. refreshed and wasted another hour, still sold out. Thought system was down so I called up the ticketing help line (all sales are through the web)
Got told that UEFA stipulate how many tickets they want per match up to 8,000 of them.
That's upto 16%.
What's made it worse this year is that season ticket holders - even those with less european games, managed to get themselves access to the autocup scheme for the champions league that needed certain european matches on there. This was my preferred way of getting tickets as you have the same guys around you all the time.
However as season ticket holders managed to get priority access to the autocup scheme they had also all sold out. Wrote to Peter Moores who says "it's just the ACS"
so now, no tickets for Atletico.
The round following Atletico will need attendance at Atletico, so effectively no chance. Also for next seasons CL it will require you to have at least the last match played in the CL to be able to get tickets to the group stage.
Basically because of greedy cants who can't be asked to go to European games until we are facking boss jnr and I are at the back of the queue and feel really disenfranchised.
Despite being there to support the team through some really great nights. Not just Dortmund, and Barca, but also those key games v PSG, and Napoli at home.
It is facking shiittt....
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I've bought membership every year for years, since I left the supporters club I was a member of.
I have never once been able to get a ticket through the website, using the members page as priority goes to 'L' post codes, which is fair enough but then nothing is ever left over, as soon as you click to enter when it opens, sold out.
I can't even get cup games as you have to go to one, using your membership, to get access to another. How can I go to one if it doesn't allow me?
So I only get tickets through travel agents and other crap, which cost around £150, not including travel and hotel.
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To right. Proper fans. Not these forum fans
posted on 14/2/20
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga... (U1308)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 1 hour, 18 minutes ago
I'm about to go on a mad rant... it's about tickets and greedy fackers..
Jnr and I have been to every single home game in European competition since the 2016/17 season, that's the whole Europa run to Basel. The whole run to the Karius final and the whole run to Madrid (not final).
All the home games this year.
Through all that I thought I would be certain to get tickets for Atletico. So logged on bang on time waiting, and at 9am, the match was sold out. Wtf.. refreshed and wasted another hour, still sold out. Thought system was down so I called up the ticketing help line (all sales are through the web)
Got told that UEFA stipulate how many tickets they want per match up to 8,000 of them.
That's upto 16%.
What's made it worse this year is that season ticket holders - even those with less european games, managed to get themselves access to the autocup scheme for the champions league that needed certain european matches on there. This was my preferred way of getting tickets as you have the same guys around you all the time.
However as season ticket holders managed to get priority access to the autocup scheme they had also all sold out. Wrote to Peter Moores who says "it's just the ACS"
so now, no tickets for Atletico.
The round following Atletico will need attendance at Atletico, so effectively no chance. Also for next seasons CL it will require you to have at least the last match played in the CL to be able to get tickets to the group stage.
Basically because of greedy cants who can't be asked to go to European games until we are facking boss jnr and I are at the back of the queue and feel really disenfranchised.
Despite being there to support the team through some really great nights. Not just Dortmund, and Barca, but also those key games v PSG, and Napoli at home.
It is facking shiittt....
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I've bought membership every year for years, since I left the supporters club I was a member of.
I have never once been able to get a ticket through the website, using the members page as priority goes to 'L' post codes, which is fair enough but then nothing is ever left over, as soon as you click to enter when it opens, sold out.
I can't even get cup games as you have to go to one, using your membership, to get access to another. How can I go to one if it doesn't allow me?
So I only get tickets through travel agents and other crap, which cost around £150, not including travel and hotel.
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To right. Proper fans. Not these forum fans
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Go play with your Everton mates on your own board. Oh that's right, there aren't any, you chased them away. <rofl.
posted on 14/2/20
What a tragic life Arouna lives, pitiful.
posted on 14/2/20
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 5 minutes ago
Go play with your Everton mates on your own board. Oh that's right, there aren't any, you chased them away. <rofl.
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