comment by Detective constable NNH - Ivan/Ritchie/Rocket ... (U10730)
posted 1 minute ago
I anticipate a few songs about independence when we play England, we will just have to sit back and accept it
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knee, if it happens they'll be dealt with like the last time.A right kikicking and frogmarched to the ferry without their gear from hotels etc.. a lot of injured hooligans that night
Yeah bb it didn't work out well for them last time. But the whole city will be a mess if something happens. Town will be insane and lads will start fighting gardai for something to do, just don't need that rubbish.
I've found it funny the last few days how on this site and in the English media everyone is giving out out international football, but all the irish, welsh, Scottish and northern irish people are all really enjoying the current campaigns
England games may have been boring but all this talk of banning smaller nations etc because they don't 'learn anything from these games' that annoys me.
They're spoiled from qualifying for neay every major tournament
Thats true
I remember that night well. It was only because the cops were so heavy handed with them that staved off very serious trouble, people jumping into cars/vans etc making their way towards the stadium ready for a battle
In fairness Kneerash the smaller teams arguments is about sides like San Marino, Gibraltar and Andorra rather than teams like Northern Ireland or Wales.
Would definitely agree about England fans being spoiled though, as sad as it always is to go out I used to love our quarter final finishes, a lot would complain bitterly though.
The neck of the English complaining smaller countries don't learn anything. What have they learned from the last two World Cups?
That's it there would be a mob outside the ground if the same happened again and there will defo be sections of the home ground taunting with republican songs etc hope that can be drowned out with the rest of the crowd just being really loud with the regular songs.
Even if it does go fine there could well be issues in town after, if a big group of England fans set up shop somewhere hang flags and start singing anything anti irish it will kick off quickly.
More than the Irish I imagine
Again though this is referring to the tiny countries that would celebrate getting a point in their group let alone winning a game or even having very optimistic ideas about qualifying (even with the new Euro structure)
It good you enjoyed it SAF but like you say many people give out about a quarter final of a major tournament that's what I meant, That's still great qualifying and going to them regularly would be a dream for the other nations.
There is an argument for the validity of San marino etc but you can simply not allow them partake in qualifying because they don't offer larger nations any test.
That's the attitude that's come out of the media and its a bit blinkered IMO like Steve claridge and Phil Neville were on five live saying they should be made to qualify because England get no benefit from these games that's a very narrow minded opinion. They did say they should have to qualify there could be something to that but they must be allowed to enter to qualify. I've read and heard this week that they should be banned from entering.
I predict Scotland to win the Group.
Ireland kwally as runners up.
Strachan has a superior win ratio than Saint Martin btw.
How small a team do you have to be to actually get something from playing the minnows though?
They put 10 men behind the ball against everyone, and in the case of say Wales or Northern Ireland does that really help them?
I am unsure on the argument personally but I can see the argument in might be in these very small nations favour as they will play some serious competitive football that they have a chance in with a prize at the end.
Not convinced either way but I don't think the idea is just big nation arrogance and without merit.
Why is the type of football played by England always so dull and predictable??
I mean all that talent and its like watching paint dry
we brought Strachan in and its improved our football ten fold
I don't think the management choices help, we limit ourselves to the very limited talent pool of English managers and when we do break tradition we go with Capello (that is Sven aside)
For the players at England's disposal they should be able to play some decent stuff.
Their players aren't world class though, they don't have one world class player in their squad.
Rooney was very good but now he just looks bang average.
Sterling looks like he could develop into something special and so does Barkley and I quite like the boy Stones.
But Wilshere, Welbeck, Henderson, Milner
Just qualifying should be an achievement with those players
England need Wenger or Mourinho as manager
someone that knows the English game
Forster, Stones, Cahill, Sterling, Sturridge are all decent
Why would he need to know the English game?
Forster
Stones
Sterling
Sturridge
Walcott
All decent enough, but thats about it.
English national side suffers because of the EPL imho, there are kids from all parts of the world in the English academies.
Scotland's strongest first X1 is better than Ireland's strongest first X1 imo. Also Scotland have better options on the bench. Ireland are a better side with Wes Houlihan on the park.
Saying that, by the time the game comes round, who knows who will be available or injured. Even Forrest might be available
The group's wide open.
As an irishman im praying for no trouble or bullsheet in glasgow......
Or any sort of of nasty chanting either or booing of anthems (flower of scotland is a great anthem anyway)
Like kneerash im hoping to get to that game in dubln...be a great atmosphere
comment by BB (U13430)
posted on 15/10/14
Scotland are very decent, but I don't buy into the chat of Ireland being on the decline, they look re energised under MON and have a great team spirit.
Plus Scotland wont win in Georgia.
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posted on 15/10/14
comment by Detective constable NNH - Ivan/Ritchie/Rocket ... (U10730)
posted 1 minute ago
I anticipate a few songs about independence when we play England, we will just have to sit back and accept it
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posted on 15/10/14
knee, if it happens they'll be dealt with like the last time.A right kikicking and frogmarched to the ferry without their gear from hotels etc.. a lot of injured hooligans that night
posted on 15/10/14
Yeah bb it didn't work out well for them last time. But the whole city will be a mess if something happens. Town will be insane and lads will start fighting gardai for something to do, just don't need that rubbish.
posted on 15/10/14
I've found it funny the last few days how on this site and in the English media everyone is giving out out international football, but all the irish, welsh, Scottish and northern irish people are all really enjoying the current campaigns
England games may have been boring but all this talk of banning smaller nations etc because they don't 'learn anything from these games' that annoys me.
They're spoiled from qualifying for neay every major tournament
posted on 15/10/14
Thats true
I remember that night well. It was only because the cops were so heavy handed with them that staved off very serious trouble, people jumping into cars/vans etc making their way towards the stadium ready for a battle
posted on 15/10/14
In fairness Kneerash the smaller teams arguments is about sides like San Marino, Gibraltar and Andorra rather than teams like Northern Ireland or Wales.
Would definitely agree about England fans being spoiled though, as sad as it always is to go out I used to love our quarter final finishes, a lot would complain bitterly though.
posted on 15/10/14
The neck of the English complaining smaller countries don't learn anything. What have they learned from the last two World Cups?
posted on 15/10/14
That's it there would be a mob outside the ground if the same happened again and there will defo be sections of the home ground taunting with republican songs etc hope that can be drowned out with the rest of the crowd just being really loud with the regular songs.
Even if it does go fine there could well be issues in town after, if a big group of England fans set up shop somewhere hang flags and start singing anything anti irish it will kick off quickly.
posted on 15/10/14
More than the Irish I imagine
Again though this is referring to the tiny countries that would celebrate getting a point in their group let alone winning a game or even having very optimistic ideas about qualifying (even with the new Euro structure)
posted on 15/10/14
It good you enjoyed it SAF but like you say many people give out about a quarter final of a major tournament that's what I meant, That's still great qualifying and going to them regularly would be a dream for the other nations.
There is an argument for the validity of San marino etc but you can simply not allow them partake in qualifying because they don't offer larger nations any test.
That's the attitude that's come out of the media and its a bit blinkered IMO like Steve claridge and Phil Neville were on five live saying they should be made to qualify because England get no benefit from these games that's a very narrow minded opinion. They did say they should have to qualify there could be something to that but they must be allowed to enter to qualify. I've read and heard this week that they should be banned from entering.
posted on 15/10/14
I predict Scotland to win the Group.
Ireland kwally as runners up.
Strachan has a superior win ratio than Saint Martin btw.
posted on 15/10/14
^ WUM.
WUM BUSTED.
posted on 15/10/14
How small a team do you have to be to actually get something from playing the minnows though?
They put 10 men behind the ball against everyone, and in the case of say Wales or Northern Ireland does that really help them?
I am unsure on the argument personally but I can see the argument in might be in these very small nations favour as they will play some serious competitive football that they have a chance in with a prize at the end.
Not convinced either way but I don't think the idea is just big nation arrogance and without merit.
posted on 15/10/14
Why is the type of football played by England always so dull and predictable??
I mean all that talent and its like watching paint dry
we brought Strachan in and its improved our football ten fold
posted on 15/10/14
I don't think the management choices help, we limit ourselves to the very limited talent pool of English managers and when we do break tradition we go with Capello (that is Sven aside)
posted on 15/10/14
For the players at England's disposal they should be able to play some decent stuff.
Their players aren't world class though, they don't have one world class player in their squad.
Rooney was very good but now he just looks bang average.
Sterling looks like he could develop into something special and so does Barkley and I quite like the boy Stones.
But Wilshere, Welbeck, Henderson, Milner
Just qualifying should be an achievement with those players
posted on 15/10/14
England need Wenger or Mourinho as manager
posted on 15/10/14
someone that knows the English game
Forster, Stones, Cahill, Sterling, Sturridge are all decent
posted on 15/10/14
Why would he need to know the English game?
posted on 15/10/14
Forster
Stones
Sterling
Sturridge
Walcott
All decent enough, but thats about it.
English national side suffers because of the EPL imho, there are kids from all parts of the world in the English academies.
posted on 15/10/14
coz it would help
posted on 15/10/14
How?
posted on 15/10/14
Scotland's strongest first X1 is better than Ireland's strongest first X1 imo. Also Scotland have better options on the bench. Ireland are a better side with Wes Houlihan on the park.
Saying that, by the time the game comes round, who knows who will be available or injured. Even Forrest might be available
The group's wide open.
posted on 16/10/14
As an irishman im praying for no trouble or bullsheet in glasgow......
Or any sort of of nasty chanting either or booing of anthems (flower of scotland is a great anthem anyway)
Like kneerash im hoping to get to that game in dubln...be a great atmosphere
posted on 30/3/16
comment by BB (U13430)
posted on 15/10/14
Scotland are very decent, but I don't buy into the chat of Ireland being on the decline, they look re energised under MON and have a great team spirit.
Plus Scotland wont win in Georgia.
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