Agree with all of the above. I've always been a supporter of NP but now I feel completely let down by him.
As you say, we had a great opportunity to build after last season and his stubbornness has completely blown it.
We only need 4/5 signings and he added 2! On top of that, long term contracts have been given to players before they have achieved anything in the Premier League.
I can't believe we've only managed 2 wins and 10 points by this point. Don't get me wrong, I wasn't expecting to challenge the top half but FFS, even Burnley have 5 more than us. The fact we've not been thrashed by anyone and could have taken points from almost every game shows how close we are but by the time we get the chance to add some quality it'll be too late.
10 years it took to get here and one mans stubbornness and 'contacts for the boys' means it could be another 10 before we return.
Very very disappointed.
Very considered article BS.
Personally I thought we performed better today than a lot of us feared. Of course we would all have liked a win or a hard fought draw, but deep down we knew that we would have to perform at 150% while MCFC would have to have an off day for us to get anything.
Saying that we can take positives out of today, and move forward into the next 4 games with confidence slowly rising.
We all have to stay positive and it will all click when we all fear the worst ( that may be now after reading some opinions on here that we are DOOMED)
Positives today - Hamer, a number of people have been calling for him to be given a run. This will now happen until the New Year, let's see if today is the start of better things between the sticks.
Simpson - Many people have been demanding that he be given a run instead of Satan ( sorry I mean RDL, who must feel like that sometimes.....). I think we can safely say Simpson will be now given the next few games to cement a place in the starting 11.
Cambiasso - I like the bloke, set pieces, calm etc. I don't see him as an expensive luxury, I see him as integral to keeping our game plan on target throughout 90mins.
Formation - Thought it was a good idea to go with this today, certainly stifled a potent team for a lot of the game.
All in all I am not slitting my wrists after today, my support for NP has not fallen any. If anything. See a light at the end of the tunnel, yes we are 5 points adrift but at some point we will go on a little run of wins/draws etc and then it will all look different.
Keep calm and stay positive my fellow Blue Army fans
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Donington - please explain Pearson's stubbornness?
We tried to buy quality in the summer but we lost out on pretty much all our main targets because the club took the policy not to cede to ludicrous requests from either player or club.
From what I understand it wasn't that we didn't want to pay, players didn't want to come to the promoted club.
If we do go down, we have to conform to FFP yet it seems some think we can just click our fingers and fork out 50m and its all sorted.
I think Pearson underestimated how big the task would be and he, but more the club, realised its not easy to do business in this division.
I'm confused as to his that makes him stubborn. It's another ridiculous label Pearson seems to have that, when you look at the evidence, has no grounding in reality.
Good response Tommy - I'm not doubting that results will pick up, I think they will. I think we will pick up 3 points soon enough, we may kick on a little bit from there, but realistically I don't think it will be enough. You can't take 2 points from 33, mostly from the teams around you, and expect to stay up.
Thoughts will already be turning to next season at the club in their assessment of Pearson because history shows that very few teams in this position ever make it out the bottom 3.
Mersey - I think the stubbornness comes from not turning to other players in the squad during our dire run of form, not giving players like Knockeart and Albrighton more of a chance and being more than confident that we had the squad not just to survive, but to do better than that...
I'm not doubting there wasn't a wage cap set by the owners or that players didn't want to come, but Pearson said back in May that these players have earned the right to play in the prem. In hindsight, that was the first warning sign....
.......that this was a loyal manager, but one that was underestimating the task ahead of him.
We should have signed McArthur when we had the opportunity, we should have prioritised full backs and defensive options, we didn't even target a central defender!
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posted 3 minutes ago
Donington - please explain Pearson's stubbornness?
We tried to buy quality in the summer but we lost out on pretty much all our main targets because the club took the policy not to cede to ludicrous requests from either player or club.
From what I understand it wasn't that we didn't want to pay, players didn't want to come to the promoted club.
If we do go down, we have to conform to FFP yet it seems some think we can just click our fingers and fork out 50m and its all sorted.
I think Pearson underestimated how big the task would be and he, but more the club, realised its not easy to do business in this division.
I'm confused as to his that makes him stubborn. It's another ridiculous label Pearson seems to have that, when you look at the evidence, has no grounding in reality.
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Couldn't agree more Mersey
FFP affects every club differently. We cannot be compared to Burnley, QPR, Hull or Man Utd. We are Leicester City and for whatever reason we got the players we did in the summer, I am sure we missed out on others for good reason.
I for one wouldn't want to pay £12 mill for Deeney or some of the other stupid prices.
Our club has a history and I want it to have a future and that future must not be put in jeopardy by some short sighted demands.
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posted 7 minutes ago
Good response Tommy - I'm not doubting that results will pick up, I think they will. I think we will pick up 3 points soon enough, we may kick on a little bit from there, but realistically I don't think it will be enough. You can't take 2 points from 33, mostly from the teams around you, and expect to stay up.
Thoughts will already be turning to next season at the club in their assessment of Pearson because history shows that very few teams in this position ever make it out the bottom 3.
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BS
I apologise but I am going to have to politely disagree.
I cannot accept that thoughts of people at the club will be turning to next season already. It is December 13th not April 13th, I would hope that all of the thoughts of everyone at the club are focused on turning this run around and giving the rest of the season a damn good go.
But Blackstarr, I'll go back to evidence.
This is the stubborn Man who won't give players a chance who has changed our formation and playing staff repeatedly looking for the tight formula.
DD back in today and James out. King back in.
Knocky "the Devils child" according to some people give numerous opps from the bench.
Nugent and Wood not even in the squad. Simpson keeping his place over one of Pearson's "favourites" on merit.
For those not getting a chance, they probably need to look at themselves rather than Pearson.
How is using 95% of the squad so far stubborn?
I just get fed up of the labels people put on Pearson without looking past his media persona.
It is hard to be remotely positive with 10 points and only two games shy of the mid-point. Let's be honest - we are already down!
Question is, should the owners allow Pearson to spend in January? Personally I think not. Our position in the table suggests we will probably end up with dis-interested mercenaries or the usual Man Utd youth team players!
Time to protect the club's future.
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But Blackstarr, I'll go back to evidence.
This is the stubborn Man who won't give players a chance who has changed our formation and playing staff repeatedly looking for the tight formula.
DD back in today and James out. King back in.
Knocky "the Devils child" according to some people give numerous opps from the bench.
Nugent and Wood not even in the squad. Simpson keeping his place over one of Pearson's "favourites" on merit.
For those not getting a chance, they probably need to look at themselves rather than Pearson.
How is using 95% of the squad so far stubborn?
I just get fed up of the labels people put on Pearson without looking past his media persona.
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Well my view is slightly different / The side that ran away with the Championship last season is without doubt capable if picking up more points than our side has this season and in my opinion that sort of exonerates Pearson's decision to stick with them.
Where Pearson has failed is not getting the same side to perform to the same standard this season and once again proving he does not have the ability to arrest an appalling collapse in form, just as he couldn't a couple of years ago. And for that reason he's out
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posted 28 seconds ago
It is hard to be remotely positive with 10 points and only two games shy of the mid-point. Let's be honest - we are already down!
Question is, should the owners allow Pearson to spend in January? Personally I think not. Our position in the table suggests we will probably end up with dis-interested mercenaries or the usual Man Utd youth team players!
Time to protect the club's future.
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Sorry I didn't realise we got relegated today... I must have missed something. We are NOT already down, we are nowhere near down, we are in a horrible run but today I saw potential.
I have faith.........
You say don't give NP and funds in January so he can't waste them and you want to protect the clubs future.
Maybe, just maybe that's what NP was doing in the summer when he refused to be held to a financial ransom when looking at new players.
1 striker
1 midfielder
1 defender
Minimum requirement for jan. Problem is, we need to pick up a couple of results before then to stay in touch. Let's do our part and help the players here now by getting behind them at West Ham next week.
We need points and until jan, I don't care how we get them. I'd bite your hand off for a scruffy horrible 0-1 victory right now!!!
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Well my view is slightly different / The side that ran away with the Championship last season is without doubt capable if picking up more points than our side has this season and in my opinion that sort of exonerates Pearson's decision to stick with them.
Where Pearson has failed is not getting the same side to perform to the same standard this season and once again proving he does not have the ability to arrest an appalling collapse in form, just as he couldn't a couple of years ago. And for that reason he's out
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Surely we are expecting a bit much thinking that we can play the same standard against Dirby last season then against Man City this season?
The step up is astronomical, I am not saying that we have performed well at all times but we all have yo understand that we can only perform and play as well as other teams let us in this league.
Last year we enjoyed possession and controlling games, this year we have had to get used to chasing better players and trying to make the best of 1 or 2 chances not the 10 or 12 of last season.
We are not perfect as a club, mistakes have been made but we are Leicester and we will fight for every point available this season.
comment by Merseysidefox (U4842)
posted 5 minutes ago
1 striker
1 midfielder
1 defender
Minimum requirement for jan. Problem is, we need to pick up a couple of results before then to stay in touch. Let's do our part and help the players here now by getting behind them at West Ham next week.
We need points and until jan, I don't care how we get them. I'd bite your hand off for a scruffy horrible 0-1 victory right now!!!
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Here here Mersey, let's do our bit and support for 90 minutes.
Tommy - agree to disgree. What I will say is that I don't expect anyone in the club to resign themselves to relegation and give up. We must prioritise the positions we should have filled in the summer in the Jan transfer window.
What I'm trying to say is that the club have to think about next season as well as this when assessing persons future. What I mean by that is it may not be the best decision to get rid of Pearson if no one else is going to do any better given the position we are in, the owners must think about the possibility of championship football next season
Lets be realistic, the team are giving very little signs that they can stay up, nothing to do with work, effort or desire, Blackpool had that in spades, but the quality is not there. It will take an absolute miracle to keep this side up - thats my honest belief. If I saw us creating lots of chances, keeping clean sheets, hovering around 16th then I'd be much more optimistic. We have 2 points from 33. Thats the kind of form Derby were in when they achieved their 11 point total.
Mersey - the facts do support his stubbornness in my view. Before the last two games, Pearson didn't really change his first 11, sticking with the same players who weren't performing. Sure he changed tactics, but persisted with the same bunch. Go back to the Qpr game and the games that preceded them - DeLaet starting every game, Nugent coming on after 65 mins, no Albrighton, no Knockeart, no Simpson, no Powell (granted he didn't look great today), sticking with Schmeichel
The only reason Simpson got a start against Villa was because of De Laets absence last week. Granted Peason has given him another go. Knocky comes on but has played about 70 mins of football this season. Hamer starts only because Schmeichel is injured. Albrighton misses out again.
The facts are, if you look at the team sheets over the last few weeks, there isn't much variance at all, except when someone is injured. No one can tell me that Albrighton and Knockeart have had a fair crack this season - they just haven't been given a chance.
Look at the transfer window. We didn't need to spend huge amounts of money, but no central defender, apart from Upson (!??) was seriously targeted. Thats absolutely belief that your back 4 is good enough. His interviews show in my view, a stubborn side in his responses.
If Pearson has got a reputation for being stubborn (considering events against Liverpool) then he has himself to blame I'm afraid
Everyone was telling us NP was one of our best three manager's of all time 2 month's ago.
He got us out of league 1 as champions, He romped the Championship, he's now having a difficult period and certain so called supporters begin to doubt him !
It just beggars belief, we were always going to find it a very tough league, get behind him and the team.
I remain optimistic we can make a recovery from this situation, very rarely if ever have we been played off the park, sneak a win ,increased confidence will hopefully see us climb out of danger.
Regards last summer transfer activity, I don't think NP should take all the flak for missing his transfer targets.
Maybe his target's didn't fancy coming here or our negotiators couldn't agree fee's / wages.
Regards NP being called stubborn, well there weren't too many complaining last season, NP was in charge then wasn't he ? get off his back,please, he must be just as frustrated as we are, but he can't show it , though he did blow a gasket after the Liverpool game.
As for support for Mr. Pulis on the basis of him never being relegated, well there's always a first time, as WE found out a few seasons ago having never been in the 3rd tier before, we wrongly thought it wouldn't happen.
I firmly believe we support NP both now and next season whichever league.
We may bounce back, it may take longer, enjoy the ride.
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Well my view is slightly different / The side that ran away with the Championship last season is without doubt capable if picking up more points than our side has this season and in my opinion that sort of exonerates Pearson's decision to stick with them.
Where Pearson has failed is not getting the same side to perform to the same standard this season and once again proving he does not have the ability to arrest an appalling collapse in form, just as he couldn't a couple of years ago. And for that reason he's out
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Surely we are expecting a bit much thinking that we can play the same standard against Dirby last season then against Man City this season?
The step up is astronomical, I am not saying that we have performed well at all times but we all have yo understand that we can only perform and play as well as other teams let us in this league.
Last year we enjoyed possession and controlling games, this year we have had to get used to chasing better players and trying to make the best of 1 or 2 chances not the 10 or 12 of last season.
We are not perfect as a club, mistakes have been made but we are Leicester and we will fight for every point available this season.
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Tommy. I think you miss my point - Last seasons squad may not have been good enough to beat Man City, but it was certainly good enough to pick up more points than it has up to now and the fact it hasn't is down to Pearson.
This point is crucial to the clubs well being. We're not challenging or capable of maintaining our Premier League status and the only person to blame is Pearson - Time to go and apologists who can't smell the coffee can chant Pearson's name in the Championship next season
Again, full credit to anyone who believes we will stay up or who feels that relegation to the championship is an ok situation.
My personal belief is that this season was an opportunity to begin a new chapter in the clubs history. To try and utilise the large investment of the owners, to hang on in there this season and maybe become the next Swansea or Southampton.
No one knows who is to blame for our transfer window. I personally think its a combination of Pearson, Robinson and the owners, but I don't know any better than anyone.
What I will say is that we as fans have an absolute right to be disappointed with 2 points from 33. We worked so hard to get here, with all of the owners pre-season talk, was it so wrong to be hopeful we could stay?
It doesnt make us any less supportive of our team. It doesnt mean we love Leicester any less. It just means we were staring at the stars with big ambitions for the club and theres nothing wrong with ambition...
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Well my view is slightly different / The side that ran away with the Championship last season is without doubt capable if picking up more points than our side has this season and in my opinion that sort of exonerates Pearson's decision to stick with them.
Where Pearson has failed is not getting the same side to perform to the same standard this season and once again proving he does not have the ability to arrest an appalling collapse in form, just as he couldn't a couple of years ago. And for that reason he's out
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Surely we are expecting a bit much thinking that we can play the same standard against Dirby last season then against Man City this season?
The step up is astronomical, I am not saying that we have performed well at all times but we all have yo understand that we can only perform and play as well as other teams let us in this league.
Last year we enjoyed possession and controlling games, this year we have had to get used to chasing better players and trying to make the best of 1 or 2 chances not the 10 or 12 of last season.
We are not perfect as a club, mistakes have been made but we are Leicester and we will fight for every point available this season.
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Tommy. I think you miss my point - Last seasons squad may not have been good enough to beat Man City, but it was certainly good enough to pick up more points than it has up to now and the fact it hasn't is down to Pearson.
This point is crucial to the clubs well being. We're not challenging or capable of maintaining our Premier League status and the only person to blame is Pearson - Time to go and apologists who can't smell the coffee can chant Pearson's name in the Championship next season
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Fully respect your opinion Voice, but we will just have to agree to disagree 👍
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Well my view is slightly different / The side that ran away with the Championship last season is without doubt capable if picking up more points than our side has this season and in my opinion that sort of exonerates Pearson's decision to stick with them.
Where Pearson has failed is not getting the same side to perform to the same standard this season and once again proving he does not have the ability to arrest an appalling collapse in form, just as he couldn't a couple of years ago. And for that reason he's out
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Surely we are expecting a bit much thinking that we can play the same standard against Dirby last season then against Man City this season?
The step up is astronomical, I am not saying that we have performed well at all times but we all have yo understand that we can only perform and play as well as other teams let us in this league.
Last year we enjoyed possession and controlling games, this year we have had to get used to chasing better players and trying to make the best of 1 or 2 chances not the 10 or 12 of last season.
We are not perfect as a club, mistakes have been made but we are Leicester and we will fight for every point available this season.
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Tommy. I think you miss my point - Last seasons squad may not have been good enough to beat Man City, but it was certainly good enough to pick up more points than it has up to now and the fact it hasn't is down to Pearson.
This point is crucial to the clubs well being. We're not challenging or capable of maintaining our Premier League status and the only person to blame is Pearson - Time to go and apologists who can't smell the coffee can chant Pearson's name in the Championship next season
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Fully respect your opinion Voice, but we will just have to agree to disagree 👍
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Tommy, you absolute disgrace of a supporter you are a............. Opps, sorry Tommy -
Appletons - just because we are disappointed to be adrift at the bottom of the league after such a great start and just because we feel Pearson has made some fundamental mistakes - that doesnt mean myself, Donnington and Foxes Voice are not behind the team. I'm pretty sure we are.
I've been to 4 games this season despite living 2 hours away, I tune in every match, I'm a foxes gold member (!), I was a season ticket holder for 11 years - I'm as behind the club as anyone else. But I can still be behind the club I love and be gutted at where we are and question some of Pearson decisions.
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Well my view is slightly different / The side that ran away with the Championship last season is without doubt capable if picking up more points than our side has this season and in my opinion that sort of exonerates Pearson's decision to stick with them.
Where Pearson has failed is not getting the same side to perform to the same standard this season and once again proving he does not have the ability to arrest an appalling collapse in form, just as he couldn't a couple of years ago. And for that reason he's out
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Surely we are expecting a bit much thinking that we can play the same standard against Dirby last season then against Man City this season?
The step up is astronomical, I am not saying that we have performed well at all times but we all have yo understand that we can only perform and play as well as other teams let us in this league.
Last year we enjoyed possession and controlling games, this year we have had to get used to chasing better players and trying to make the best of 1 or 2 chances not the 10 or 12 of last season.
We are not perfect as a club, mistakes have been made but we are Leicester and we will fight for every point available this season.
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Tommy. I think you miss my point - Last seasons squad may not have been good enough to beat Man City, but it was certainly good enough to pick up more points than it has up to now and the fact it hasn't is down to Pearson.
This point is crucial to the clubs well being. We're not challenging or capable of maintaining our Premier League status and the only person to blame is Pearson - Time to go and apologists who can't smell the coffee can chant Pearson's name in the Championship next season
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Fully respect your opinion Voice, but we will just have to agree to disagree 👍
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Appletons - just because we are disappointed to be adrift at the bottom of the league after such a great start and just because we feel Pearson has made some fundamental mistakes - that doesnt mean myself, Donnington and Foxes Voice are not behind the team. I'm pretty sure we are.
I've been to 4 games this season despite living 2 hours away, I tune in every match, I'm a foxes gold member (!), I was a season ticket holder for 11 years - I'm as behind the club as anyone else. But I can still be behind the club I love and be gutted at where we are and question some of Pearson decisions.
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Completely agree BS, everyone can question. Whether we attend each game, just home games, go as often as we can or just love the club from a distance it is still OUR club and we are all entitled to voice any praise or discontent.
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posted on 13/12/14
Agree with all of the above. I've always been a supporter of NP but now I feel completely let down by him.
As you say, we had a great opportunity to build after last season and his stubbornness has completely blown it.
We only need 4/5 signings and he added 2! On top of that, long term contracts have been given to players before they have achieved anything in the Premier League.
I can't believe we've only managed 2 wins and 10 points by this point. Don't get me wrong, I wasn't expecting to challenge the top half but FFS, even Burnley have 5 more than us. The fact we've not been thrashed by anyone and could have taken points from almost every game shows how close we are but by the time we get the chance to add some quality it'll be too late.
10 years it took to get here and one mans stubbornness and 'contacts for the boys' means it could be another 10 before we return.
Very very disappointed.
posted on 13/12/14
Very considered article BS.
Personally I thought we performed better today than a lot of us feared. Of course we would all have liked a win or a hard fought draw, but deep down we knew that we would have to perform at 150% while MCFC would have to have an off day for us to get anything.
Saying that we can take positives out of today, and move forward into the next 4 games with confidence slowly rising.
We all have to stay positive and it will all click when we all fear the worst ( that may be now after reading some opinions on here that we are DOOMED)
Positives today - Hamer, a number of people have been calling for him to be given a run. This will now happen until the New Year, let's see if today is the start of better things between the sticks.
Simpson - Many people have been demanding that he be given a run instead of Satan ( sorry I mean RDL, who must feel like that sometimes.....). I think we can safely say Simpson will be now given the next few games to cement a place in the starting 11.
Cambiasso - I like the bloke, set pieces, calm etc. I don't see him as an expensive luxury, I see him as integral to keeping our game plan on target throughout 90mins.
Formation - Thought it was a good idea to go with this today, certainly stifled a potent team for a lot of the game.
All in all I am not slitting my wrists after today, my support for NP has not fallen any. If anything. See a light at the end of the tunnel, yes we are 5 points adrift but at some point we will go on a little run of wins/draws etc and then it will all look different.
Keep calm and stay positive my fellow Blue Army fans
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posted on 13/12/14
Donington - please explain Pearson's stubbornness?
We tried to buy quality in the summer but we lost out on pretty much all our main targets because the club took the policy not to cede to ludicrous requests from either player or club.
From what I understand it wasn't that we didn't want to pay, players didn't want to come to the promoted club.
If we do go down, we have to conform to FFP yet it seems some think we can just click our fingers and fork out 50m and its all sorted.
I think Pearson underestimated how big the task would be and he, but more the club, realised its not easy to do business in this division.
I'm confused as to his that makes him stubborn. It's another ridiculous label Pearson seems to have that, when you look at the evidence, has no grounding in reality.
posted on 13/12/14
Good response Tommy - I'm not doubting that results will pick up, I think they will. I think we will pick up 3 points soon enough, we may kick on a little bit from there, but realistically I don't think it will be enough. You can't take 2 points from 33, mostly from the teams around you, and expect to stay up.
Thoughts will already be turning to next season at the club in their assessment of Pearson because history shows that very few teams in this position ever make it out the bottom 3.
posted on 13/12/14
Mersey - I think the stubbornness comes from not turning to other players in the squad during our dire run of form, not giving players like Knockeart and Albrighton more of a chance and being more than confident that we had the squad not just to survive, but to do better than that...
I'm not doubting there wasn't a wage cap set by the owners or that players didn't want to come, but Pearson said back in May that these players have earned the right to play in the prem. In hindsight, that was the first warning sign....
posted on 13/12/14
.......that this was a loyal manager, but one that was underestimating the task ahead of him.
We should have signed McArthur when we had the opportunity, we should have prioritised full backs and defensive options, we didn't even target a central defender!
posted on 13/12/14
comment by Merseysidefox (U4842)
posted 3 minutes ago
Donington - please explain Pearson's stubbornness?
We tried to buy quality in the summer but we lost out on pretty much all our main targets because the club took the policy not to cede to ludicrous requests from either player or club.
From what I understand it wasn't that we didn't want to pay, players didn't want to come to the promoted club.
If we do go down, we have to conform to FFP yet it seems some think we can just click our fingers and fork out 50m and its all sorted.
I think Pearson underestimated how big the task would be and he, but more the club, realised its not easy to do business in this division.
I'm confused as to his that makes him stubborn. It's another ridiculous label Pearson seems to have that, when you look at the evidence, has no grounding in reality.
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Couldn't agree more Mersey
FFP affects every club differently. We cannot be compared to Burnley, QPR, Hull or Man Utd. We are Leicester City and for whatever reason we got the players we did in the summer, I am sure we missed out on others for good reason.
I for one wouldn't want to pay £12 mill for Deeney or some of the other stupid prices.
Our club has a history and I want it to have a future and that future must not be put in jeopardy by some short sighted demands.
posted on 13/12/14
comment by BlackStarr (U12353)
posted 7 minutes ago
Good response Tommy - I'm not doubting that results will pick up, I think they will. I think we will pick up 3 points soon enough, we may kick on a little bit from there, but realistically I don't think it will be enough. You can't take 2 points from 33, mostly from the teams around you, and expect to stay up.
Thoughts will already be turning to next season at the club in their assessment of Pearson because history shows that very few teams in this position ever make it out the bottom 3.
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BS
I apologise but I am going to have to politely disagree.
I cannot accept that thoughts of people at the club will be turning to next season already. It is December 13th not April 13th, I would hope that all of the thoughts of everyone at the club are focused on turning this run around and giving the rest of the season a damn good go.
posted on 13/12/14
But Blackstarr, I'll go back to evidence.
This is the stubborn Man who won't give players a chance who has changed our formation and playing staff repeatedly looking for the tight formula.
DD back in today and James out. King back in.
Knocky "the Devils child" according to some people give numerous opps from the bench.
Nugent and Wood not even in the squad. Simpson keeping his place over one of Pearson's "favourites" on merit.
For those not getting a chance, they probably need to look at themselves rather than Pearson.
How is using 95% of the squad so far stubborn?
I just get fed up of the labels people put on Pearson without looking past his media persona.
posted on 13/12/14
It is hard to be remotely positive with 10 points and only two games shy of the mid-point. Let's be honest - we are already down!
Question is, should the owners allow Pearson to spend in January? Personally I think not. Our position in the table suggests we will probably end up with dis-interested mercenaries or the usual Man Utd youth team players!
Time to protect the club's future.
posted on 13/12/14
comment by Merseysidefox (U4842)
posted 2 minutes ago
But Blackstarr, I'll go back to evidence.
This is the stubborn Man who won't give players a chance who has changed our formation and playing staff repeatedly looking for the tight formula.
DD back in today and James out. King back in.
Knocky "the Devils child" according to some people give numerous opps from the bench.
Nugent and Wood not even in the squad. Simpson keeping his place over one of Pearson's "favourites" on merit.
For those not getting a chance, they probably need to look at themselves rather than Pearson.
How is using 95% of the squad so far stubborn?
I just get fed up of the labels people put on Pearson without looking past his media persona.
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posted on 13/12/14
Well my view is slightly different / The side that ran away with the Championship last season is without doubt capable if picking up more points than our side has this season and in my opinion that sort of exonerates Pearson's decision to stick with them.
Where Pearson has failed is not getting the same side to perform to the same standard this season and once again proving he does not have the ability to arrest an appalling collapse in form, just as he couldn't a couple of years ago. And for that reason he's out
posted on 13/12/14
comment by lcfcprawnsandwich (U3490)
posted 28 seconds ago
It is hard to be remotely positive with 10 points and only two games shy of the mid-point. Let's be honest - we are already down!
Question is, should the owners allow Pearson to spend in January? Personally I think not. Our position in the table suggests we will probably end up with dis-interested mercenaries or the usual Man Utd youth team players!
Time to protect the club's future.
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Sorry I didn't realise we got relegated today... I must have missed something. We are NOT already down, we are nowhere near down, we are in a horrible run but today I saw potential.
I have faith.........
You say don't give NP and funds in January so he can't waste them and you want to protect the clubs future.
Maybe, just maybe that's what NP was doing in the summer when he refused to be held to a financial ransom when looking at new players.
posted on 13/12/14
1 striker
1 midfielder
1 defender
Minimum requirement for jan. Problem is, we need to pick up a couple of results before then to stay in touch. Let's do our part and help the players here now by getting behind them at West Ham next week.
We need points and until jan, I don't care how we get them. I'd bite your hand off for a scruffy horrible 0-1 victory right now!!!
posted on 13/12/14
comment by a foxes voice (U1133)
posted 3 minutes ago
Well my view is slightly different / The side that ran away with the Championship last season is without doubt capable if picking up more points than our side has this season and in my opinion that sort of exonerates Pearson's decision to stick with them.
Where Pearson has failed is not getting the same side to perform to the same standard this season and once again proving he does not have the ability to arrest an appalling collapse in form, just as he couldn't a couple of years ago. And for that reason he's out
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Surely we are expecting a bit much thinking that we can play the same standard against Dirby last season then against Man City this season?
The step up is astronomical, I am not saying that we have performed well at all times but we all have yo understand that we can only perform and play as well as other teams let us in this league.
Last year we enjoyed possession and controlling games, this year we have had to get used to chasing better players and trying to make the best of 1 or 2 chances not the 10 or 12 of last season.
We are not perfect as a club, mistakes have been made but we are Leicester and we will fight for every point available this season.
posted on 13/12/14
comment by Merseysidefox (U4842)
posted 5 minutes ago
1 striker
1 midfielder
1 defender
Minimum requirement for jan. Problem is, we need to pick up a couple of results before then to stay in touch. Let's do our part and help the players here now by getting behind them at West Ham next week.
We need points and until jan, I don't care how we get them. I'd bite your hand off for a scruffy horrible 0-1 victory right now!!!
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Here here Mersey, let's do our bit and support for 90 minutes.
posted on 13/12/14
Tommy - agree to disgree. What I will say is that I don't expect anyone in the club to resign themselves to relegation and give up. We must prioritise the positions we should have filled in the summer in the Jan transfer window.
What I'm trying to say is that the club have to think about next season as well as this when assessing persons future. What I mean by that is it may not be the best decision to get rid of Pearson if no one else is going to do any better given the position we are in, the owners must think about the possibility of championship football next season
Lets be realistic, the team are giving very little signs that they can stay up, nothing to do with work, effort or desire, Blackpool had that in spades, but the quality is not there. It will take an absolute miracle to keep this side up - thats my honest belief. If I saw us creating lots of chances, keeping clean sheets, hovering around 16th then I'd be much more optimistic. We have 2 points from 33. Thats the kind of form Derby were in when they achieved their 11 point total.
Mersey - the facts do support his stubbornness in my view. Before the last two games, Pearson didn't really change his first 11, sticking with the same players who weren't performing. Sure he changed tactics, but persisted with the same bunch. Go back to the Qpr game and the games that preceded them - DeLaet starting every game, Nugent coming on after 65 mins, no Albrighton, no Knockeart, no Simpson, no Powell (granted he didn't look great today), sticking with Schmeichel
The only reason Simpson got a start against Villa was because of De Laets absence last week. Granted Peason has given him another go. Knocky comes on but has played about 70 mins of football this season. Hamer starts only because Schmeichel is injured. Albrighton misses out again.
The facts are, if you look at the team sheets over the last few weeks, there isn't much variance at all, except when someone is injured. No one can tell me that Albrighton and Knockeart have had a fair crack this season - they just haven't been given a chance.
Look at the transfer window. We didn't need to spend huge amounts of money, but no central defender, apart from Upson (!??) was seriously targeted. Thats absolutely belief that your back 4 is good enough. His interviews show in my view, a stubborn side in his responses.
If Pearson has got a reputation for being stubborn (considering events against Liverpool) then he has himself to blame I'm afraid
posted on 13/12/14
Everyone was telling us NP was one of our best three manager's of all time 2 month's ago.
He got us out of league 1 as champions, He romped the Championship, he's now having a difficult period and certain so called supporters begin to doubt him !
It just beggars belief, we were always going to find it a very tough league, get behind him and the team.
I remain optimistic we can make a recovery from this situation, very rarely if ever have we been played off the park, sneak a win ,increased confidence will hopefully see us climb out of danger.
Regards last summer transfer activity, I don't think NP should take all the flak for missing his transfer targets.
Maybe his target's didn't fancy coming here or our negotiators couldn't agree fee's / wages.
Regards NP being called stubborn, well there weren't too many complaining last season, NP was in charge then wasn't he ? get off his back,please, he must be just as frustrated as we are, but he can't show it , though he did blow a gasket after the Liverpool game.
As for support for Mr. Pulis on the basis of him never being relegated, well there's always a first time, as WE found out a few seasons ago having never been in the 3rd tier before, we wrongly thought it wouldn't happen.
I firmly believe we support NP both now and next season whichever league.
We may bounce back, it may take longer, enjoy the ride.
posted on 13/12/14
comment by OooTommyWright (U20202)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by a foxes voice (U1133)
posted 3 minutes ago
Well my view is slightly different / The side that ran away with the Championship last season is without doubt capable if picking up more points than our side has this season and in my opinion that sort of exonerates Pearson's decision to stick with them.
Where Pearson has failed is not getting the same side to perform to the same standard this season and once again proving he does not have the ability to arrest an appalling collapse in form, just as he couldn't a couple of years ago. And for that reason he's out
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Surely we are expecting a bit much thinking that we can play the same standard against Dirby last season then against Man City this season?
The step up is astronomical, I am not saying that we have performed well at all times but we all have yo understand that we can only perform and play as well as other teams let us in this league.
Last year we enjoyed possession and controlling games, this year we have had to get used to chasing better players and trying to make the best of 1 or 2 chances not the 10 or 12 of last season.
We are not perfect as a club, mistakes have been made but we are Leicester and we will fight for every point available this season.
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Tommy. I think you miss my point - Last seasons squad may not have been good enough to beat Man City, but it was certainly good enough to pick up more points than it has up to now and the fact it hasn't is down to Pearson.
This point is crucial to the clubs well being. We're not challenging or capable of maintaining our Premier League status and the only person to blame is Pearson - Time to go and apologists who can't smell the coffee can chant Pearson's name in the Championship next season
posted on 13/12/14
Again, full credit to anyone who believes we will stay up or who feels that relegation to the championship is an ok situation.
My personal belief is that this season was an opportunity to begin a new chapter in the clubs history. To try and utilise the large investment of the owners, to hang on in there this season and maybe become the next Swansea or Southampton.
No one knows who is to blame for our transfer window. I personally think its a combination of Pearson, Robinson and the owners, but I don't know any better than anyone.
What I will say is that we as fans have an absolute right to be disappointed with 2 points from 33. We worked so hard to get here, with all of the owners pre-season talk, was it so wrong to be hopeful we could stay?
It doesnt make us any less supportive of our team. It doesnt mean we love Leicester any less. It just means we were staring at the stars with big ambitions for the club and theres nothing wrong with ambition...
posted on 13/12/14
comment by a foxes voice (U1133)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by OooTommyWright (U20202)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by a foxes voice (U1133)
posted 3 minutes ago
Well my view is slightly different / The side that ran away with the Championship last season is without doubt capable if picking up more points than our side has this season and in my opinion that sort of exonerates Pearson's decision to stick with them.
Where Pearson has failed is not getting the same side to perform to the same standard this season and once again proving he does not have the ability to arrest an appalling collapse in form, just as he couldn't a couple of years ago. And for that reason he's out
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Surely we are expecting a bit much thinking that we can play the same standard against Dirby last season then against Man City this season?
The step up is astronomical, I am not saying that we have performed well at all times but we all have yo understand that we can only perform and play as well as other teams let us in this league.
Last year we enjoyed possession and controlling games, this year we have had to get used to chasing better players and trying to make the best of 1 or 2 chances not the 10 or 12 of last season.
We are not perfect as a club, mistakes have been made but we are Leicester and we will fight for every point available this season.
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Tommy. I think you miss my point - Last seasons squad may not have been good enough to beat Man City, but it was certainly good enough to pick up more points than it has up to now and the fact it hasn't is down to Pearson.
This point is crucial to the clubs well being. We're not challenging or capable of maintaining our Premier League status and the only person to blame is Pearson - Time to go and apologists who can't smell the coffee can chant Pearson's name in the Championship next season
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Fully respect your opinion Voice, but we will just have to agree to disagree 👍
posted on 13/12/14
comment by OooTommyWright (U20202)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by a foxes voice (U1133)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by OooTommyWright (U20202)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by a foxes voice (U1133)
posted 3 minutes ago
Well my view is slightly different / The side that ran away with the Championship last season is without doubt capable if picking up more points than our side has this season and in my opinion that sort of exonerates Pearson's decision to stick with them.
Where Pearson has failed is not getting the same side to perform to the same standard this season and once again proving he does not have the ability to arrest an appalling collapse in form, just as he couldn't a couple of years ago. And for that reason he's out
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Surely we are expecting a bit much thinking that we can play the same standard against Dirby last season then against Man City this season?
The step up is astronomical, I am not saying that we have performed well at all times but we all have yo understand that we can only perform and play as well as other teams let us in this league.
Last year we enjoyed possession and controlling games, this year we have had to get used to chasing better players and trying to make the best of 1 or 2 chances not the 10 or 12 of last season.
We are not perfect as a club, mistakes have been made but we are Leicester and we will fight for every point available this season.
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Tommy. I think you miss my point - Last seasons squad may not have been good enough to beat Man City, but it was certainly good enough to pick up more points than it has up to now and the fact it hasn't is down to Pearson.
This point is crucial to the clubs well being. We're not challenging or capable of maintaining our Premier League status and the only person to blame is Pearson - Time to go and apologists who can't smell the coffee can chant Pearson's name in the Championship next season
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Fully respect your opinion Voice, but we will just have to agree to disagree 👍
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Tommy, you absolute disgrace of a supporter you are a............. Opps, sorry Tommy -
posted on 13/12/14
Appletons - just because we are disappointed to be adrift at the bottom of the league after such a great start and just because we feel Pearson has made some fundamental mistakes - that doesnt mean myself, Donnington and Foxes Voice are not behind the team. I'm pretty sure we are.
I've been to 4 games this season despite living 2 hours away, I tune in every match, I'm a foxes gold member (!), I was a season ticket holder for 11 years - I'm as behind the club as anyone else. But I can still be behind the club I love and be gutted at where we are and question some of Pearson decisions.
posted on 13/12/14
comment by a foxes voice (U1133)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by OooTommyWright (U20202)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by a foxes voice (U1133)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by OooTommyWright (U20202)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by a foxes voice (U1133)
posted 3 minutes ago
Well my view is slightly different / The side that ran away with the Championship last season is without doubt capable if picking up more points than our side has this season and in my opinion that sort of exonerates Pearson's decision to stick with them.
Where Pearson has failed is not getting the same side to perform to the same standard this season and once again proving he does not have the ability to arrest an appalling collapse in form, just as he couldn't a couple of years ago. And for that reason he's out
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Surely we are expecting a bit much thinking that we can play the same standard against Dirby last season then against Man City this season?
The step up is astronomical, I am not saying that we have performed well at all times but we all have yo understand that we can only perform and play as well as other teams let us in this league.
Last year we enjoyed possession and controlling games, this year we have had to get used to chasing better players and trying to make the best of 1 or 2 chances not the 10 or 12 of last season.
We are not perfect as a club, mistakes have been made but we are Leicester and we will fight for every point available this season.
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Tommy. I think you miss my point - Last seasons squad may not have been good enough to beat Man City, but it was certainly good enough to pick up more points than it has up to now and the fact it hasn't is down to Pearson.
This point is crucial to the clubs well being. We're not challenging or capable of maintaining our Premier League status and the only person to blame is Pearson - Time to go and apologists who can't smell the coffee can chant Pearson's name in the Championship next season
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Fully respect your opinion Voice, but we will just have to agree to disagree 👍
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Tommy, you absolute disgrace of a supporter you are a............. Opps, sorry Tommy -
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posted on 13/12/14
comment by BlackStarr (U12353)
posted 1 minute ago
Appletons - just because we are disappointed to be adrift at the bottom of the league after such a great start and just because we feel Pearson has made some fundamental mistakes - that doesnt mean myself, Donnington and Foxes Voice are not behind the team. I'm pretty sure we are.
I've been to 4 games this season despite living 2 hours away, I tune in every match, I'm a foxes gold member (!), I was a season ticket holder for 11 years - I'm as behind the club as anyone else. But I can still be behind the club I love and be gutted at where we are and question some of Pearson decisions.
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Completely agree BS, everyone can question. Whether we attend each game, just home games, go as often as we can or just love the club from a distance it is still OUR club and we are all entitled to voice any praise or discontent.
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