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posted on 27/5/19

comment by NPE (U22020)
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comment by 🇬🇧🇬🇧 Emperor Kami 🇬🇧🇬🇧 (U9880)
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What’s the labour %
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14.6
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If we divide that 1/3 leave and 2/3 remain it’s

Leave 4.87%
Remain 9.74%

Let’s do the same with tories but 2/3 leave
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8.8% for the tories
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Remain 2.93%
Leave 5.87%
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Based on this then

Leave 45.9%
Remain 53.07%
Don’t know 1.03%
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I would give 100 percent Leave to Tories. They may have some remain voters from 2016 but if they havent joined Lib Dems or Greens yet they are happy with . brexit happening.
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That's daft logic.

There's plenty of Tory politicians that still want to remain so to assume all the Tory voters want to leave is specious at best.

posted on 27/5/19

Will be interesting to see what happens next. Really there's probably more support for some sort of insane no deal scenario (not really sure how it would even work) than there is for a leave agreement.

Total stab in the dark but something like this if you broke it up into 3 categories:
"No deal" 35%
Leave agreement 15%
Remain 50%

posted on 27/5/19

To me the voters don’t want to compromise

Go for no deal or have a second referendum

comment by NPE (U22020)

posted on 27/5/19

comment by Dave NotSo (U11711)
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comment by NPE (U22020)
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comment by 🇬🇧🇬🇧 Emperor Kami 🇬🇧🇬🇧 (U9880)
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comment by 🇬🇧🇬🇧 Emperor Kami 🇬🇧🇬🇧 (U9880)
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What’s the labour %
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14.6
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If we divide that 1/3 leave and 2/3 remain it’s

Leave 4.87%
Remain 9.74%

Let’s do the same with tories but 2/3 leave
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8.8% for the tories
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Remain 2.93%
Leave 5.87%
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Based on this then

Leave 45.9%
Remain 53.07%
Don’t know 1.03%
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I would give 100 percent Leave to Tories. They may have some remain voters from 2016 but if they havent joined Lib Dems or Greens yet they are happy with . brexit happening.
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That's daft logic.

There's plenty of Tory politicians that still want to remain so to assume all the Tory voters want to leave is specious at best.
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Talking about the voters dimwit.

comment by NPE (U22020)

posted on 27/5/19

comment by 🇬🇧🇬🇧 Emperor Kami 🇬🇧🇬🇧 (U9880)
posted 3 minutes ago
To me the voters don’t want to compromise

Go for no deal or have a second referendum
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Exactly

comment by NPE (U22020)

posted on 27/5/19

Tim Shipman
@ShippersUnbound


Let’s call this Catch 1922:

i) How does anyone not threatening no deal get a) any movement from Brussels or b) win the Tory leadership?

ii) How does anyone threatening no deal win a confidence motion and command a majority in the Commons?

comment by NPE (U22020)

posted on 27/5/19

Dan Hodges
@DPJHodges

Nigel Farage winning these elections was the final chance for Remainers to grasp the need to deliver some form of pragmatic Brexit. It's pretty clear it's not going to be taken. They can't complain about what happens next.

posted on 27/5/19

All David Cameron has done has shifted the division from the tories into the country

It hasn’t fixed anything and now we are left in a position which either direction will damage the tories greatly and the other parties in many of the other directions

comment by NPE (U22020)

posted on 27/5/19

Kate McCann
@KateEMcCann

Early noises out of Corbyn camp hint that Labour could now push for a second referendum. These elections show Labour has to get off the fence and pick a Brexit policy or face complete electoral wipeout

posted on 27/5/19

comment by NPE (U22020)
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comment by 🇬🇧🇬🇧 Emperor Kami 🇬🇧🇬🇧 (U9880)
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To me the voters don’t want to compromise

Go for no deal or have a second referendum
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Exactly
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Yeah I agree, that's how I tried to put it. There are very view voters actually in the middle ground. That said the middle ground is what you get when trying to take everyones wishes into account.

But you have to say, is this issue then too much for a lot of people? Wanting no deal, what even does that entail in reality and how facked would it be?

We've all been becoming more and more informed on the subject and no one wants that disaster yet I can't imagine even 5% of the people wanting no deal have done anything but 'know they want out' and listen to people like Farage who offer nothing but lies, hypocrisy and bravado - zero substance.

comment by NPE (U22020)

posted on 27/5/19

Stig Abell
@StigAbell

These election results are a very complicated way of saying Remainers want to remain and Leavers want to leave. And the country has about 50% of each of them.

posted on 27/5/19

comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
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comment by NPE (U22020)
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comment by 🇬🇧🇬🇧 Emperor Kami 🇬🇧🇬🇧 (U9880)
posted 3 minutes ago
To me the voters don’t want to compromise

Go for no deal or have a second referendum
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Exactly
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Yeah I agree, that's how I tried to put it. There are very view voters actually in the middle ground. That said the middle ground is what you get when trying to take everyones wishes into account.

But you have to say, is this issue then too much for a lot of people? Wanting no deal, what even does that entail in reality and how facked would it be?

We've all been becoming more and more informed on the subject and no one wants that disaster yet I can't imagine even 5% of the people wanting no deal have done anything but 'know they want out' and listen to people like Farage who offer nothing but lies, hypocrisy and bravado - zero substance.
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As soon as we go for No Deal, farage would be off to his LBC show and would leave it to the politicians he doesn’t trust to sort it

comment by NPE (U22020)

posted on 27/5/19

It's frustrating, if the Brexit party had only got 25 percent of the vote, there would argulably be a mandate for a second ref and a clear Remain majority.

While, if there was a decisive 40 percent sweep like some predicted, we'd probably have Labour and Tories desperate to agree a deal to ward off the No-Deal scenario.

Instead we are caught between two stalls. 50-50 split give or take, but with a Conservative Party losing votes to No Deal. Meaning they cant compromise without losing the next election.

posted on 27/5/19

comment by NPE (U22020)
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It's frustrating, if the Brexit party had only got 25 percent of the vote, there would argulably be a mandate for a second ref and a clear Remain majority.

While, if there was a decisive 40 percent sweep like some predicted, we'd probably have Labour and Tories desperate to agree a deal to ward off the No-Deal scenario.

Instead we are caught between two stalls. 50-50 split give or take, but with a Conservative Party losing votes to No Deal. Meaning they cant compromise without losing the next election.
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Could be that the tories have to take a position knowing the party has a sell by date. Then they create a new party to fill the hole left by the tories lol

comment by NPE (U22020)

posted on 27/5/19

comment by 🇬🇧🇬🇧 Emperor Kami 🇬🇧🇬🇧 (U9880)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by NPE (U22020)
posted less than a minute ago
It's frustrating, if the Brexit party had only got 25 percent of the vote, there would argulably be a mandate for a second ref and a clear Remain majority.

While, if there was a decisive 40 percent sweep like some predicted, we'd probably have Labour and Tories desperate to agree a deal to ward off the No-Deal scenario.

Instead we are caught between two stalls. 50-50 split give or take, but with a Conservative Party losing votes to No Deal. Meaning they cant compromise without losing the next election.
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Could be that the tories have to take a position knowing the party has a sell by date. Then they create a new party to fill the hole left by the tories lol
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That's far to bold for one of the stodgiest selections of MPs I have ever seen in my life.

posted on 27/5/19

There is a clear message, a soft brexit is the only fair result. 2nd ref and no deal cannot be done.

posted on 27/5/19

comment by TTliv87 (U11882)
posted 2 minutes ago
There is a clear message, a soft brexit is the only fair result. 2nd ref and no deal cannot be done.
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So are you happy for the Withdrawal agreement to go through?

If it’s soft brexit then the tories will be destroyed in the polls by the brexit party

comment by NPE (U22020)

posted on 27/5/19

comment by TTliv87 (U11882)
posted 4 minutes ago
There is a clear message, a soft brexit is the only fair result. 2nd ref and no deal cannot be done.
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I would agree sadly there is zero appetite for it.

comment by NPE (U22020)

posted on 27/5/19

comment by 🇬🇧🇬🇧 Emperor Kami 🇬🇧🇬🇧 (U9880)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by TTliv87 (U11882)
posted 2 minutes ago
There is a clear message, a soft brexit is the only fair result. 2nd ref and no deal cannot be done.
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So are you happy for the Withdrawal agreement to go through?

If it’s soft brexit then the tories will be destroyed in the polls by the brexit party
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I disagree, if Brexit happened in any shape, the Brexit party would go down to 5-10 percent in the polls.

comment by NPE (U22020)

posted on 27/5/19

Soft Brexit would be great, sadly Remainers will feel emboldened despite no obvious pathway to another referendum...

and the Tories now have a Brexit Party mauling them so will be scared to suggest compromise. Even if i think the Brexit party is a short term situation.

posted on 27/5/19

If we have a second referendum and remain then the leave argument won’t disappear. They will say that brexit wasn’t ever tried and the vote was ignored

If brexit is allowed to happen and it is a leaver that takes us into Brexit Britain, the leavers May then see a country that suffers and could support a rejoin referendum

posted on 27/5/19

It's just a horrendous situation really. At the end of it all, whatever happens only a minority will be happy and the rest will be angry.... leading perhaps to much bigger problems down the line

comment by NPE (U22020)

posted on 27/5/19

comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 29 seconds ago
It's just a horrendous situation really. At the end of it all, whatever happens only a minority will be happy and the rest will be angry.... leading perhaps to much bigger problems down the line
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Indeed. I think we'll be talking about Brexit for another 10 years.

comment by NPE (U22020)

posted on 27/5/19

comment by 🇬🇧🇬🇧 Emperor Kami 🇬🇧🇬🇧 (U9880)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by TTliv87 (U11882)
posted 2 minutes ago
There is a clear message, a soft brexit is the only fair result. 2nd ref and no deal cannot be done.
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So are you happy for the Withdrawal agreement to go through?

If it’s soft brexit then the tories will be destroyed in the polls by the brexit party
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I think they would be ok actually, I think people want to get on with it.

I think Brexit Party would hover around 10-15 percent for a year or two but realistically most people would be so tired of the whole thing that I can't see such a backlash. Only if we don't leave at all will it be a problem.

Also May's deal is not soft Brexit.

posted on 27/5/19

comment by 🇬🇧🇬🇧 Emperor Kami 🇬🇧🇬🇧 (U9880)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by TTliv87 (U11882)
posted 2 minutes ago
There is a clear message, a soft brexit is the only fair result. 2nd ref and no deal cannot be done.
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So are you happy for the Withdrawal agreement to go through?

If it’s soft brexit then the tories will be destroyed in the polls by the brexit party
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Although I dont want it I believe we should stay in the customs union for the sake of unity in the country. My absolute red line is leaving the ECJ. The fact that another court can have power over our country is sickening.

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