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There can be only one.
The Greatest is the greatest of all times....
https://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=J9CeC3yrcG4
https://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=BY6_3Y7OOo8
Watching NFL is like watching buffaloes during their mating season.
Ali. Prior to him being stripped of his world title he was frightening. Nobody could land a glove on him and he danced around the ring like no heavyweight hado done before or since.
He dethroned Sonny Liston who was knocking people out for fun and who folk believed was untouchable.. there were boxing journalists fearing for Ali's life prior to that fight.
After his 3 year hiatus which was enforced on him he had to come back a different fighter having being robbed of his prime years. He was able to reinvent himself. Had a trilogy of fights against Joe Frazier, the third which is one of if not the greatest, toughest fights ever.
The Thrilla in Manilla was 14 rounds of back and forth slugging in 40+ degree heat. People ringside were almost passing out from the heat and the crowd was almost 100% against him that day. Yet he prevailed, although that fight most likely took more out of him than his body could handle.
Then he had his Rumble in the Jungle where again he defied the odds. He was written off as being past it and again folk were fearing for his well being against a young George Foreman, who like Liston before him was punching his way through people. So Ali used his brain and developed the rope-a-dope tactics and used Foreman's strength and frightening power against him.. a genius play. But it was only achievable because Ali's chin was one of the best in the business and his conditioning was near perfect.
Not one of those other 4 could have sustained what he went through. Then there's the fact he stood up to his government and paid the ultimate sporting sacrifice for it, by losing his prime years. You also have his showmanship, unrivalled by the other 4.. name me any quote by them which is universally known such as Float Like a Butterfly, Sting Like a Bee.. or I'm so mean I make medicine sick etc etc. Granted he went too far in the end with Frazier and some of those comments were uncalled for but that's boxing sometimes.
Ali paid the ultimate sacrifice in the end with his Parkinsons but he'll be talked about hundreds of years into the future. He's a cultural icon as well as a sporting great.
As has been said before.. tennis is a game for the middle class, basketball is predominately an American game, Maradona shamed himself with his drugs episodes, and to take nothing away from Bolts achievements as they're phenomenal.. but all he does is run fast.
A no brainer.
1 Ali
2 Pele
3 Sugar Ray Robinson
4 Mick Barry
5 Ayrton Senna
6 Floyd Mayweather jnr.
7 George Best
8 Novak Djokovic
9 Michael Schumacher
Ali. Prior to him being stripped of his world title he was frightening. Nobody could land a glove on him and he danced around the ring like no heavyweight hado done before or since.
He dethroned Sonny Liston who was knocking people out for fun and who folk believed was untouchable.. there were boxing journalists fearing for Ali's life prior to that fight.
After his 3 year hiatus which was enforced on him he had to come back a different fighter having being robbed of his prime years. He was able to reinvent himself. Had a trilogy of fights against Joe Frazier, the third which is one of if not the greatest, toughest fights ever.
The Thrilla in Manilla was 14 rounds of back and forth slugging in 40+ degree heat. People ringside were almost passing out from the heat and the crowd was almost 100% against him that day. Yet he prevailed, although that fight most likely took more out of him than his body could handle.
Then he had his Rumble in the Jungle where again he defied the odds. He was written off as being past it and again folk were fearing for his well being against a young George Foreman, who like Liston before him was punching his way through people. So Ali used his brain and developed the rope-a-dope tactics and used Foreman's strength and frightening power against him.. a genius play. But it was only achievable because Ali's chin was one of the best in the business and his conditioning was near perfect.
Not one of those other 4 could have sustained what he went through. Then there's the fact he stood up to his government and paid the ultimate sporting sacrifice for it, by losing his prime years. You also have his showmanship, unrivalled by the other 4.. name me any quote by them which is universally known such as Float Like a Butterfly, Sting Like a Bee.. or I'm so mean I make medicine sick etc etc. Granted he went too far in the end with Frazier and some of those comments were uncalled for but that's boxing sometimes.
Ali paid the ultimate sacrifice in the end with his Parkinsons but he'll be talked about hundreds of years into the future. He's a cultural icon as well as a sporting great.
As has been said before.. tennis is a game for the middle class, basketball is predominately an American game, Maradona shamed himself with his drugs episodes, and to take nothing away from Bolts achievements as they're phenomenal.. but all he does is run fast.
Forgive Me, I'm thick. I can't spell plagiarism,,,,,
Just as well as it took me ages to write that while I was p¡ssed
Ali is not the greatest sportsperson of all time.
But he is the most famous and charismatic sporting champion of all time. And that is why the masses who don't know much about his career or sport will always flock towards him.
"Obviously it's Ali because everyone knows Ali was "the greatest" in boxing".
Well he wasn't you know. He ducked big George in a rematch where everyone KNEW he'd get eaten alive at the time, fought in an era where steroids were legal, was given a split decision which was so controversial there was immediate talk of bribery by Don King against Ken Norton, and was gifted one of if not the most outrageous stoppages of all time in his rematch against Sonny Liston when he was losing the fight.
Ali is the most charismatic champion of any sport ever to be sure, but fighters like Deontay Wilder, either Klitschko or Lennox Lewis from the last decade would beat him 2/3 for my money.
George Foreman was the best from that era, and the only one who Ali never let back in the ring. And everyone knew why.
Ali had endured terrific body punishment in Africa and there were rumors that the new champion urinated blood in the dressing room following the bout. Foreman was THE RING Fighter of the Year in 1976, having knocked out Ron Lyle and Joe Frazier within five rounds, and he seemed as menacing as ever. When this reporter ventured to suggest that Ali may have avoided a rematch, Foreman instantly disagreed.
“Ali was the bravest man I ever shared the ring with and it all came down to the issue we had with Richard Sadler,” said Foreman, before marginally contradicting that statement. “Strange things can happen in boxing matches, that fighters never mention, and I may have caught him with one punch that he wasn’t willing to take again.
“A really heavy body shot bent Ali over at the waist and it was obvious he was hurt. When the bell rang to end that particular round he gave me a look and I remember thinking to myself, this is the bravest man I’ve ever faced. Despite chasing the rematch I asked myself, many times, if I truly wanted to get back in the ring with him.
“If Ali was a touch scared of fighting me again – I was glad of it.”
The words of Big George.
"and was gifted one of if not the most outrageous stoppages of all time in his rematch against Sonny Liston when he was losing the fight".
Everytime I read this comment it gets worse.
Losing the fight???? Ali knocked him out in the 1st round f f s....
Ali never had a granite chin, he had a granite will.
Gifted the Liston rematch
Liston went down and didn't want to get back up. He was petrified of Ali.
Ali's greatest weapon was his mind. He psyched out so many of his opponents. The only one he never truly beat psychologically was Frazier and even then he did get inside his head, especially the third fight.. only it worked against him as Frazier was a man possessed and was willing to die to win that fight.
comment by JukeboxJunkie - A wrong decision is better tha... (U10162)
posted 16 minutes ago
Gifted the Liston rematch
Liston went down and didn't want to get back up. He was petrified of Ali.
Ali's greatest weapon was his mind. He psyched out so many of his opponents. The only one he never truly beat psychologically was Frazier and even then he did get inside his head, especially the third fight.. only it worked against him as Frazier was a man possessed and was willing to die to win that fight.
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A lot of boxers boast they are willing to die in the ring, but Frazier actually was.
Ali was just too fast for Liston, he caught him with a sweet punch right on the button. I think Liston could have gotten up, but after the first fight and getting put down like that his heart was gone.
Aye he picked up his paycheck and wanted nothing more of Ali
comment by JukeboxJunkie - A wrong decision is better tha... (U10162)
posted 5 minutes ago
Aye he picked up his paycheck and wanted nothing more of Ali
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When you think yourself as unbeatable and not only get beat but outclassed so much you can't even fathom beating the guy in front of you, it kinda takes your soul and not easy to recover from
Aye George Foreman pretty much said the same.. took him years to recover mentally from the Rumble in the Jungle
comment by JukeboxJunkie - A wrong decision is better tha... (U10162)
posted 10 minutes ago
Aye George Foreman pretty much said the same.. took him years to recover mentally from the Rumble in the Jungle
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And then he became very good friends with Ali
"and was gifted one of if not the most outrageous stoppages of all time in his rematch against Sonny Liston when he was losing the fight".
Well, I have to admit, Ali was out on his feet in this one. Miles behind on points IMHO.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TADbnYQJg7w
Yip, that dude knows his boxing.
"A lot of boxers boast they are willing to die in the ring, but Frazier actually was".
Tyson said " I'll have to be carried out on my shield".
Hmm, well anyone who watched his capitulation to Lewis will see through that statment.
Of all the heavyweights I've ever saw ( and I never saw Marciano ) only two would have died in the ring. Ali and Frazier.
comment by Irishgreen (U3215)
posted 2 hours, 14 minutes ago
"A lot of boxers boast they are willing to die in the ring, but Frazier actually was".
Tyson said " I'll have to be carried out on my shield".
Hmm, well anyone who watched his capitulation to Lewis will see through that statment.
Of all the heavyweights I've ever saw ( and I never saw Marciano ) only two would have died in the ring. Ali and Frazier.
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At the end of the 14th, Ali asked Dundee to cut off his gloves. Dundee said no
Dundee didn't mind if Ali died in the ring as well.
Futch on the other hand pulled Frazier out against Joe's wishes
From that list:
Bolt
Federer
Ali
Maradona
not going to include somebody that plays an over-hyped, poorer, version of netball
That being said, apart from Bolt and Federer neither of the other two are even the best representative of their particular sport
Jahangir and Jansher Khan two Pakistani squash legends who were unbeaten for more than 6 years during their prime years.
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posted on 5/12/15
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posted on 5/12/15
There can be only one.
The Greatest is the greatest of all times....
https://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=J9CeC3yrcG4
https://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=BY6_3Y7OOo8
posted on 8/12/15
Jesse Owens
posted on 8/12/15
Clay
posted on 9/12/15
Watching NFL is like watching buffaloes during their mating season.
posted on 26/1/16
Ali. Prior to him being stripped of his world title he was frightening. Nobody could land a glove on him and he danced around the ring like no heavyweight hado done before or since.
He dethroned Sonny Liston who was knocking people out for fun and who folk believed was untouchable.. there were boxing journalists fearing for Ali's life prior to that fight.
After his 3 year hiatus which was enforced on him he had to come back a different fighter having being robbed of his prime years. He was able to reinvent himself. Had a trilogy of fights against Joe Frazier, the third which is one of if not the greatest, toughest fights ever.
The Thrilla in Manilla was 14 rounds of back and forth slugging in 40+ degree heat. People ringside were almost passing out from the heat and the crowd was almost 100% against him that day. Yet he prevailed, although that fight most likely took more out of him than his body could handle.
Then he had his Rumble in the Jungle where again he defied the odds. He was written off as being past it and again folk were fearing for his well being against a young George Foreman, who like Liston before him was punching his way through people. So Ali used his brain and developed the rope-a-dope tactics and used Foreman's strength and frightening power against him.. a genius play. But it was only achievable because Ali's chin was one of the best in the business and his conditioning was near perfect.
Not one of those other 4 could have sustained what he went through. Then there's the fact he stood up to his government and paid the ultimate sporting sacrifice for it, by losing his prime years. You also have his showmanship, unrivalled by the other 4.. name me any quote by them which is universally known such as Float Like a Butterfly, Sting Like a Bee.. or I'm so mean I make medicine sick etc etc. Granted he went too far in the end with Frazier and some of those comments were uncalled for but that's boxing sometimes.
Ali paid the ultimate sacrifice in the end with his Parkinsons but he'll be talked about hundreds of years into the future. He's a cultural icon as well as a sporting great.
As has been said before.. tennis is a game for the middle class, basketball is predominately an American game, Maradona shamed himself with his drugs episodes, and to take nothing away from Bolts achievements as they're phenomenal.. but all he does is run fast.
A no brainer.
posted on 9/2/16
1 Ali
2 Pele
3 Sugar Ray Robinson
4 Mick Barry
5 Ayrton Senna
6 Floyd Mayweather jnr.
7 George Best
8 Novak Djokovic
9 Michael Schumacher
posted on 9/2/16
Ali. Prior to him being stripped of his world title he was frightening. Nobody could land a glove on him and he danced around the ring like no heavyweight hado done before or since.
He dethroned Sonny Liston who was knocking people out for fun and who folk believed was untouchable.. there were boxing journalists fearing for Ali's life prior to that fight.
After his 3 year hiatus which was enforced on him he had to come back a different fighter having being robbed of his prime years. He was able to reinvent himself. Had a trilogy of fights against Joe Frazier, the third which is one of if not the greatest, toughest fights ever.
The Thrilla in Manilla was 14 rounds of back and forth slugging in 40+ degree heat. People ringside were almost passing out from the heat and the crowd was almost 100% against him that day. Yet he prevailed, although that fight most likely took more out of him than his body could handle.
Then he had his Rumble in the Jungle where again he defied the odds. He was written off as being past it and again folk were fearing for his well being against a young George Foreman, who like Liston before him was punching his way through people. So Ali used his brain and developed the rope-a-dope tactics and used Foreman's strength and frightening power against him.. a genius play. But it was only achievable because Ali's chin was one of the best in the business and his conditioning was near perfect.
Not one of those other 4 could have sustained what he went through. Then there's the fact he stood up to his government and paid the ultimate sporting sacrifice for it, by losing his prime years. You also have his showmanship, unrivalled by the other 4.. name me any quote by them which is universally known such as Float Like a Butterfly, Sting Like a Bee.. or I'm so mean I make medicine sick etc etc. Granted he went too far in the end with Frazier and some of those comments were uncalled for but that's boxing sometimes.
Ali paid the ultimate sacrifice in the end with his Parkinsons but he'll be talked about hundreds of years into the future. He's a cultural icon as well as a sporting great.
As has been said before.. tennis is a game for the middle class, basketball is predominately an American game, Maradona shamed himself with his drugs episodes, and to take nothing away from Bolts achievements as they're phenomenal.. but all he does is run fast.
Forgive Me, I'm thick. I can't spell plagiarism,,,,,
posted on 9/2/16
Just as well as it took me ages to write that while I was p¡ssed
posted on 10/2/16
Ali is not the greatest sportsperson of all time.
But he is the most famous and charismatic sporting champion of all time. And that is why the masses who don't know much about his career or sport will always flock towards him.
"Obviously it's Ali because everyone knows Ali was "the greatest" in boxing".
Well he wasn't you know. He ducked big George in a rematch where everyone KNEW he'd get eaten alive at the time, fought in an era where steroids were legal, was given a split decision which was so controversial there was immediate talk of bribery by Don King against Ken Norton, and was gifted one of if not the most outrageous stoppages of all time in his rematch against Sonny Liston when he was losing the fight.
Ali is the most charismatic champion of any sport ever to be sure, but fighters like Deontay Wilder, either Klitschko or Lennox Lewis from the last decade would beat him 2/3 for my money.
George Foreman was the best from that era, and the only one who Ali never let back in the ring. And everyone knew why.
posted on 6/6/16
Ali had endured terrific body punishment in Africa and there were rumors that the new champion urinated blood in the dressing room following the bout. Foreman was THE RING Fighter of the Year in 1976, having knocked out Ron Lyle and Joe Frazier within five rounds, and he seemed as menacing as ever. When this reporter ventured to suggest that Ali may have avoided a rematch, Foreman instantly disagreed.
“Ali was the bravest man I ever shared the ring with and it all came down to the issue we had with Richard Sadler,” said Foreman, before marginally contradicting that statement. “Strange things can happen in boxing matches, that fighters never mention, and I may have caught him with one punch that he wasn’t willing to take again.
“A really heavy body shot bent Ali over at the waist and it was obvious he was hurt. When the bell rang to end that particular round he gave me a look and I remember thinking to myself, this is the bravest man I’ve ever faced. Despite chasing the rematch I asked myself, many times, if I truly wanted to get back in the ring with him.
“If Ali was a touch scared of fighting me again – I was glad of it.”
The words of Big George.
posted on 6/6/16
"and was gifted one of if not the most outrageous stoppages of all time in his rematch against Sonny Liston when he was losing the fight".
Everytime I read this comment it gets worse.
Losing the fight???? Ali knocked him out in the 1st round f f s....
posted on 6/6/16
Ali never had a granite chin, he had a granite will.
posted on 6/6/16
Gifted the Liston rematch
Liston went down and didn't want to get back up. He was petrified of Ali.
Ali's greatest weapon was his mind. He psyched out so many of his opponents. The only one he never truly beat psychologically was Frazier and even then he did get inside his head, especially the third fight.. only it worked against him as Frazier was a man possessed and was willing to die to win that fight.
posted on 6/6/16
comment by JukeboxJunkie - A wrong decision is better tha... (U10162)
posted 16 minutes ago
Gifted the Liston rematch
Liston went down and didn't want to get back up. He was petrified of Ali.
Ali's greatest weapon was his mind. He psyched out so many of his opponents. The only one he never truly beat psychologically was Frazier and even then he did get inside his head, especially the third fight.. only it worked against him as Frazier was a man possessed and was willing to die to win that fight.
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A lot of boxers boast they are willing to die in the ring, but Frazier actually was.
Ali was just too fast for Liston, he caught him with a sweet punch right on the button. I think Liston could have gotten up, but after the first fight and getting put down like that his heart was gone.
posted on 6/6/16
Aye he picked up his paycheck and wanted nothing more of Ali
posted on 6/6/16
comment by JukeboxJunkie - A wrong decision is better tha... (U10162)
posted 5 minutes ago
Aye he picked up his paycheck and wanted nothing more of Ali
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When you think yourself as unbeatable and not only get beat but outclassed so much you can't even fathom beating the guy in front of you, it kinda takes your soul and not easy to recover from
posted on 6/6/16
Aye George Foreman pretty much said the same.. took him years to recover mentally from the Rumble in the Jungle
posted on 6/6/16
comment by JukeboxJunkie - A wrong decision is better tha... (U10162)
posted 10 minutes ago
Aye George Foreman pretty much said the same.. took him years to recover mentally from the Rumble in the Jungle
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And then he became very good friends with Ali
posted on 7/6/16
As most did
posted on 7/6/16
"and was gifted one of if not the most outrageous stoppages of all time in his rematch against Sonny Liston when he was losing the fight".
Well, I have to admit, Ali was out on his feet in this one. Miles behind on points IMHO.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TADbnYQJg7w
Yip, that dude knows his boxing.
posted on 7/6/16
"A lot of boxers boast they are willing to die in the ring, but Frazier actually was".
Tyson said " I'll have to be carried out on my shield".
Hmm, well anyone who watched his capitulation to Lewis will see through that statment.
Of all the heavyweights I've ever saw ( and I never saw Marciano ) only two would have died in the ring. Ali and Frazier.
posted on 7/6/16
comment by Irishgreen (U3215)
posted 2 hours, 14 minutes ago
"A lot of boxers boast they are willing to die in the ring, but Frazier actually was".
Tyson said " I'll have to be carried out on my shield".
Hmm, well anyone who watched his capitulation to Lewis will see through that statment.
Of all the heavyweights I've ever saw ( and I never saw Marciano ) only two would have died in the ring. Ali and Frazier.
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At the end of the 14th, Ali asked Dundee to cut off his gloves. Dundee said no
Dundee didn't mind if Ali died in the ring as well.
Futch on the other hand pulled Frazier out against Joe's wishes
posted on 13/6/17
From that list:
Bolt
Federer
Ali
Maradona
not going to include somebody that plays an over-hyped, poorer, version of netball
That being said, apart from Bolt and Federer neither of the other two are even the best representative of their particular sport
posted on 2/7/17
Jahangir and Jansher Khan two Pakistani squash legends who were unbeaten for more than 6 years during their prime years.
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