Asylum seeker and refugee are basically the same thing in this case, they are leaving countries for genuine reasons of war or persecution. I'm talking about economic migrants who pretend to be refugees/asylum seekers and get rid of documents so there is no proof who they're of where they are from. Merkel's policy has encouraged them to try their luck and see if they can get into Europe.
8bit
Asylum seekers are only given refugee status after their claim has been processed.
Economic migrants are not eligible for asylum. Distinguishing between the two (economic migrants and asylum seekers) is extremely difficult and time consuming.
But a migrant entering the UK to work is unable to do so without firstly going through the visa/migration programme. If an economic migrant is undocumented, they can’t enter the UK to work.
If their claim is approved by the HO I understand they are given a (think it’s four or five year) a stay in the UK.
8bit
I dont have an issue with economic migrants either, if people want to leave to better themselves more power to them, Norman Tebbitt, the darling of Thatchers right wing government urged people to do just that, get on their bikes and find work. I'm no bleeding heart, I'm all for removing ALL borders, don't care where you're from, what colour or creed you are, if you're willing to put up with a bucket load of shiiit to better yourself who am I, or more specifically, who are you, to stop them contributing to the society and economy?
Don't try and compare us with the Arab countries, they still think slavery us acceptable, that chopping of hands and flogging is acceptable, our LIBERAL society is a paragon of virtue compared to those self interested and medieval fiefdoms....your comparison is disingenuous.
I'm not against economic migrants but we won't solve all the problems by moving everyone to the UK and the west, take the brightest minds, best doctors, scientists, engineers etc from the third world and leave them with what. Instead of cramming all the wealth and talent into the small % of rich countries we should be making the rest of the world richer. But the fact is all countries act in their own self interest.
Don't you think it's nice that you have countries like Japan, India, Brazil with their own unique culture, people, food etc, African and Asian countries are fiercely protective of their culture as well. But in the west it's a negative to be proud of our culture and we've been too tolerant to a fault... carry on this way and we'll be a country with no loyalties or unity where everyone's just out for themselves.
8bit
Talking about culture, I've off to the pub in a minute.
I hear what youre saying but i think youre over egging the pudding, what specific cultural identities are we losing by accepting immigration? Seriously!
We're a multi cultural society and always have been, immigration has been good for the UK, since the war we've had our issues but we've dealt with them and we're a better place for it, I've travelled and lived in a few countries, the UK, bar the weather, is a fantastic place to live. Any problems we have politically are self manufactured by people hankering for the good old days, imo.
Sure we need to control who is coming in, but historically we have been a haven for exiles and dissidents, from Marx and Engels to Litvenenko.
Have been reading a piece (relates to NI but will impact the whole country) in regard to the UK pharmaceutical industry.
Northern Ireland's EU select committee interviewed industry members today. In a nutshell if the UK leaves the SM and customs union, the industry will disappear from UK shores.
In an already heavily regulated industry they are required to produce/manufacture drugs etc in the EU. If they're not, they can't be sold. There's no alternative.
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 3 hours, 50 minutes ago
Asylum seeker and refugee are basically the same thing in this case, they are leaving countries for genuine reasons of war or persecution. I'm talking about economic migrants who pretend to be refugees/asylum seekers and get rid of documents so there is no proof who they're of where they are from. Merkel's policy has encouraged them to try their luck and see if they can get into Europe.
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This.
Uncomfortable truths.
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 2 hours, 24 minutes ago
I'm not against economic migrants but we won't solve all the problems by moving everyone to the UK and the west, take the brightest minds, best doctors, scientists, engineers etc from the third world and leave them with what. Instead of cramming all the wealth and talent into the small % of rich countries we should be making the rest of the world richer. But the fact is all countries act in their own self interest.
Don't you think it's nice that you have countries like Japan, India, Brazil with their own unique culture, people, food etc, African and Asian countries are fiercely protective of their culture as well. But in the west it's a negative to be proud of our culture and we've been too tolerant to a fault... carry on this way and we'll be a country with no loyalties or unity where everyone's just out for themselves.
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Well said again, bro.
Only in the west do we push so called multi- culturalism, melting pots and self- loathing!
Liberal leftists are fine defending Muslim and hard-line islamist states, but mention God in the west ,and all hell breaks out.
While a temp travel vetting order was news, how many more Christians and yazidis have suffered, with no march, or celeb speech?
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posted 2 hours, 3 minutes ago
Have been reading a piece (relates to NI but will impact the whole country) in regard to the UK pharmaceutical industry.
Northern Ireland's EU select committee interviewed industry members today. In a nutshell if the UK leaves the SM and customs union, the industry will disappear from UK shores.
In an already heavily regulated industry they are required to produce/manufacture drugs etc in the EU. If they're not, they can't be sold. There's no alternative.
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Who cares if pro - union, pro- brexit business folk give the DUP money?
As I said, Provo's in our govt are funded by crime, and Irish America.
Not a crime to be funded, Pearce, from like minded punters.
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posted 2 hours, 15 minutes ago
8bit
Talking about culture, I've off to the pub in a minute.
I hear what youre saying but i think youre over egging the pudding, what specific cultural identities are we losing by accepting immigration? Seriously!
We're a multi cultural society and always have been, immigration has been good for the UK, since the war we've had our issues but we've dealt with them and we're a better place for it, I've travelled and lived in a few countries, the UK, bar the weather, is a fantastic place to live. Any problems we have politically are self manufactured by people hankering for the good old days, imo.
Sure we need to control who is coming in, but historically we have been a haven for exiles and dissidents, from Marx and Engels to Litvenenko.
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When there are ethnic British minorities in large areas of London, Brum, Leicester, Luton, Bradford, etc there are massive cultural changes.
Pubs and churches closing are cultural change.
No English kids in classrooms mean cultural change.
English as a second language, and dwindling christian traditions are cultural change.
Hardline feminism and militant lgbt activism is a cultural change.
When French Protestants, Jews and west Indian migrants came here,,nu here were small and mixing was mostly good.
Now, we have ghetto zones, separation, divided towns and less community spirit.
This is not about colour or faith or creed,but numbers.
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 2 hours, 17 minutes ago
Have been reading a piece (relates to NI but will impact the whole country) in regard to the UK pharmaceutical industry.
Northern Ireland's EU select committee interviewed industry members today. In a nutshell if the UK leaves the SM and customs union, the industry will disappear from UK shores.
In an already heavily regulated industry they are required to produce/manufacture drugs etc in the EU. If they're not, they can't be sold. There's no alternative.
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Good for Israel then.
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posted 34 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 2 hours, 3 minutes ago
Have been reading a piece (relates to NI but will impact the whole country) in regard to the UK pharmaceutical industry.
Northern Ireland's EU select committee interviewed industry members today. In a nutshell if the UK leaves the SM and customs union, the industry will disappear from UK shores.
In an already heavily regulated industry they are required to produce/manufacture drugs etc in the EU. If they're not, they can't be sold. There's no alternative.
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Who cares if pro - union, pro- brexit business folk give the DUP money?
As I said, Provo's in our govt are funded by crime, and Irish America.
Not a crime to be funded, Pearce, from like minded punters.
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Who cares? The Electoral Commission for one. And the fact that the DUP tried to cover it up by submitting a false (and considerably lower) expenditure return to the commission.
When asked last week, Foster said she had no idea how much the money was. More lies. Out of the £425,000 spent by the DUP, only 10k was spent on NI campaigning. £240,000 was spent on a Metro advert. Which isn't even circulated in NI.
The sole reason the DUP were used was because the funds could be hidden.
Bureaucracy at it's finest.
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comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 2 hours, 15 minutes ago
8bit
Talking about culture, I've off to the pub in a minute.
I hear what youre saying but i think youre over egging the pudding, what specific cultural identities are we losing by accepting immigration? Seriously!
We're a multi cultural society and always have been, immigration has been good for the UK, since the war we've had our issues but we've dealt with them and we're a better place for it, I've travelled and lived in a few countries, the UK, bar the weather, is a fantastic place to live. Any problems we have politically are self manufactured by people hankering for the good old days, imo.
Sure we need to control who is coming in, but historically we have been a haven for exiles and dissidents, from Marx and Engels to Litvenenko.
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When there are ethnic British minorities in large areas of London, Brum, Leicester, Luton, Bradford, etc there are massive cultural changes.
Pubs and churches closing are cultural change.
No English kids in classrooms mean cultural change.
English as a second language, and dwindling christian traditions are cultural change.
Hardline feminism and militant lgbt activism is a cultural change.
When French Protestants, Jews and west Indian migrants came here,,nu here were small and mixing was mostly good.
Now, we have ghetto zones, separation, divided towns and less community spirit.
This is not about colour or faith or creed,but numbers.
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Do you ever read your posts out loud, and then think, what on earth is that
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posted 36 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 2 hours, 17 minutes ago
Have been reading a piece (relates to NI but will impact the whole country) in regard to the UK pharmaceutical industry.
Northern Ireland's EU select committee interviewed industry members today. In a nutshell if the UK leaves the SM and customs union, the industry will disappear from UK shores.
In an already heavily regulated industry they are required to produce/manufacture drugs etc in the EU. If they're not, they can't be sold. There's no alternative.
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Good for Israel then.
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Wikipedia:
"The pharmaceutical industry in the United Kingdom directly employs around 72,000 people and in 2007 contributed £8.4 billion to the UK's GDP and invested a total of £3.9 billion in research and development.[1][2] In 2007 exports of pharmaceutical products from the UK totalled £14.6 billion, creating a trade surplus in pharmaceutical products of £4.3 billion."
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posted 34 minutes ago
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posted 2 hours, 15 minutes ago
8bit
Talking about culture, I've off to the pub in a minute.
I hear what youre saying but i think youre over egging the pudding, what specific cultural identities are we losing by accepting immigration? Seriously!
We're a multi cultural society and always have been, immigration has been good for the UK, since the war we've had our issues but we've dealt with them and we're a better place for it, I've travelled and lived in a few countries, the UK, bar the weather, is a fantastic place to live. Any problems we have politically are self manufactured by people hankering for the good old days, imo.
Sure we need to control who is coming in, but historically we have been a haven for exiles and dissidents, from Marx and Engels to Litvenenko.
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When there are ethnic British minorities in large areas of London, Brum, Leicester, Luton, Bradford, etc there are massive cultural changes.
Pubs and churches closing are cultural change.
No English kids in classrooms mean cultural change.
English as a second language, and dwindling christian traditions are cultural change.
Hardline feminism and militant lgbt activism is a cultural change.
When French Protestants, Jews and west Indian migrants came here,,nu here were small and mixing was mostly good.
Now, we have ghetto zones, separation, divided towns and less community spirit.
This is not about colour or faith or creed,but numbers.
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Do you ever read your posts out loud, and then think, what on earth is that
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As I said earlier. It's disturbing that TBAB is a civil servant and expressing views that could be seen as discriminatory. I reckon there's rules issued by the DWP about posting on social media and public forums.
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posted 20 minutes ago
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posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 2 hours, 15 minutes ago
8bit
Talking about culture, I've off to the pub in a minute.
I hear what youre saying but i think youre over egging the pudding, what specific cultural identities are we losing by accepting immigration? Seriously!
We're a multi cultural society and always have been, immigration has been good for the UK, since the war we've had our issues but we've dealt with them and we're a better place for it, I've travelled and lived in a few countries, the UK, bar the weather, is a fantastic place to live. Any problems we have politically are self manufactured by people hankering for the good old days, imo.
Sure we need to control who is coming in, but historically we have been a haven for exiles and dissidents, from Marx and Engels to Litvenenko.
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When there are ethnic British minorities in large areas of London, Brum, Leicester, Luton, Bradford, etc there are massive cultural changes.
Pubs and churches closing are cultural change.
No English kids in classrooms mean cultural change.
English as a second language, and dwindling christian traditions are cultural change.
Hardline feminism and militant lgbt activism is a cultural change.
When French Protestants, Jews and west Indian migrants came here,,nu here were small and mixing was mostly good.
Now, we have ghetto zones, separation, divided towns and less community spirit.
This is not about colour or faith or creed,but numbers.
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Do you ever read your posts out loud, and then think, what on earth is that
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As I said earlier. It's disturbing that TBAB is a civil servant and expressing views that could be seen as discriminatory. I reckon there's rules issued by the DWP about posting on social media and public forums.
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I'm a little bit pisssed but it bothers me that my British brethren can hold such bigoted views.
Having worked in housing in Poplar and seen first hand the difference between new arrivals and native born, I'm thrilled by the difference, the entrepreneurial spirit, the opportunity, the music and ethos the new Brits have brought to east London, I don't want to hold that back, I don't want to vote against that, I want more if it.
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posted 2 hours, 15 minutes ago
8bit
Talking about culture, I've off to the pub in a minute.
I hear what youre saying but i think youre over egging the pudding, what specific cultural identities are we losing by accepting immigration? Seriously!
We're a multi cultural society and always have been, immigration has been good for the UK, since the war we've had our issues but we've dealt with them and we're a better place for it, I've travelled and lived in a few countries, the UK, bar the weather, is a fantastic place to live. Any problems we have politically are self manufactured by people hankering for the good old days, imo.
Sure we need to control who is coming in, but historically we have been a haven for exiles and dissidents, from Marx and Engels to Litvenenko.
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When there are ethnic British minorities in large areas of London, Brum, Leicester, Luton, Bradford, etc there are massive cultural changes.
Pubs and churches closing are cultural change.
No English kids in classrooms mean cultural change.
English as a second language, and dwindling christian traditions are cultural change.
Hardline feminism and militant lgbt activism is a cultural change.
When French Protestants, Jews and west Indian migrants came here,,nu here were small and mixing was mostly good.
Now, we have ghetto zones, separation, divided towns and less community spirit.
This is not about colour or faith or creed,but numbers.
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Do you ever read your posts out loud, and then think, what on earth is that
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Nah.
Having lived and worked in Southall, Hounslow, Wembley, Brixton areas I saw cultural change first hand, and that was from mid- 80's to early 90's.
The people were mostly fine with us, from Jamaican, Sikh and Muslim background , but there were often few if any white English around, which is massively significant.
If you go to Italy, you expect to experience Italian culture and people, and same in Japan.
Now, parts of the UK and Europe have gone through huge cultural change.
To say otherwise is false and achieves nothing.
I also see islamists killing Christians again in Egypt this week, and look forward to Hec and you and Oscar celebs protesting😀😀😀😀
And in south Africa, black south Africans out rioting against foreign migrant workers yesterday, so Trump to blame there too boys😉
Ya wee hypocrites!
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posted 34 minutes ago
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posted 2 hours, 15 minutes ago
8bit
Talking about culture, I've off to the pub in a minute.
I hear what youre saying but i think youre over egging the pudding, what specific cultural identities are we losing by accepting immigration? Seriously!
We're a multi cultural society and always have been, immigration has been good for the UK, since the war we've had our issues but we've dealt with them and we're a better place for it, I've travelled and lived in a few countries, the UK, bar the weather, is a fantastic place to live. Any problems we have politically are self manufactured by people hankering for the good old days, imo.
Sure we need to control who is coming in, but historically we have been a haven for exiles and dissidents, from Marx and Engels to Litvenenko.
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When there are ethnic British minorities in large areas of London, Brum, Leicester, Luton, Bradford, etc there are massive cultural changes.
Pubs and churches closing are cultural change.
No English kids in classrooms mean cultural change.
English as a second language, and dwindling christian traditions are cultural change.
Hardline feminism and militant lgbt activism is a cultural change.
When French Protestants, Jews and west Indian migrants came here,,nu here were small and mixing was mostly good.
Now, we have ghetto zones, separation, divided towns and less community spirit.
This is not about colour or faith or creed,but numbers.
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Do you ever read your posts out loud, and then think, what on earth is that
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As I said earlier. It's disturbing that TBAB is a civil servant and expressing views that could be seen as discriminatory. I reckon there's rules issued by the DWP about posting on social media and public forums.
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How facist of you trying to suppress or discriminate on free speech, or political opinion !
Some liberal you are!
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posted 20 minutes ago
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posted 34 minutes ago
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posted 2 hours, 15 minutes ago
8bit
Talking about culture, I've off to the pub in a minute.
I hear what youre saying but i think youre over egging the pudding, what specific cultural identities are we losing by accepting immigration? Seriously!
We're a multi cultural society and always have been, immigration has been good for the UK, since the war we've had our issues but we've dealt with them and we're a better place for it, I've travelled and lived in a few countries, the UK, bar the weather, is a fantastic place to live. Any problems we have politically are self manufactured by people hankering for the good old days, imo.
Sure we need to control who is coming in, but historically we have been a haven for exiles and dissidents, from Marx and Engels to Litvenenko.
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When there are ethnic British minorities in large areas of London, Brum, Leicester, Luton, Bradford, etc there are massive cultural changes.
Pubs and churches closing are cultural change.
No English kids in classrooms mean cultural change.
English as a second language, and dwindling christian traditions are cultural change.
Hardline feminism and militant lgbt activism is a cultural change.
When French Protestants, Jews and west Indian migrants came here,,nu here were small and mixing was mostly good.
Now, we have ghetto zones, separation, divided towns and less community spirit.
This is not about colour or faith or creed,but numbers.
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Do you ever read your posts out loud, and then think, what on earth is that
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As I said earlier. It's disturbing that TBAB is a civil servant and expressing views that could be seen as discriminatory. I reckon there's rules issued by the DWP about posting on social media and public forums.
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I'm a little bit pisssed but it bothers me that my British brethren can hold such bigoted views.
Having worked in housing in Poplar and seen first hand the difference between new arrivals and native born, I'm thrilled by the difference, the entrepreneurial spirit, the opportunity, the music and ethos the new Brits have brought to east London, I don't want to hold that back, I don't want to vote against that, I want more if it.
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Fair enough, but you have simply highlighted the significant cultural change you denied earlier😀
As I said, it is about numbers, and as you know now, the east end English have largely gone to Essex, and the white English," locals", as you you sneer at, are the new white underclass, largely left behind by govt and society.
Hec
Bigotted British brethren?
Look in the mirror, calling folk names yet again!
Hypocrite.
I simply provided evidence of mass cultural change, to could her your claim.
I am not saying, white power, blacks out, Muslims out, no migrants or refugees here etc!
Then again, Rory McIlroy is called a facist bigot for Golfing with Trump, in the regressive left social media world.
Grow up and get over it!
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posted 2 hours, 15 minutes ago
8bit
Talking about culture, I've off to the pub in a minute.
I hear what youre saying but i think youre over egging the pudding, what specific cultural identities are we losing by accepting immigration? Seriously!
We're a multi cultural society and always have been, immigration has been good for the UK, since the war we've had our issues but we've dealt with them and we're a better place for it, I've travelled and lived in a few countries, the UK, bar the weather, is a fantastic place to live. Any problems we have politically are self manufactured by people hankering for the good old days, imo.
Sure we need to control who is coming in, but historically we have been a haven for exiles and dissidents, from Marx and Engels to Litvenenko.
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When there are ethnic British minorities in large areas of London, Brum, Leicester, Luton, Bradford, etc there are massive cultural changes.
Pubs and churches closing are cultural change.
No English kids in classrooms mean cultural change.
English as a second language, and dwindling christian traditions are cultural change.
Hardline feminism and militant lgbt activism is a cultural change.
When French Protestants, Jews and west Indian migrants came here,,nu here were small and mixing was mostly good.
Now, we have ghetto zones, separation, divided towns and less community spirit.
This is not about colour or faith or creed,but numbers.
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Do you ever read your posts out loud, and then think, what on earth is that
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As I said earlier. It's disturbing that TBAB is a civil servant and expressing views that could be seen as discriminatory. I reckon there's rules issued by the DWP about posting on social media and public forums.
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How facist of you trying to suppress or discriminate on free speech, or political opinion !
Some liberal you are!
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Where did I say you weren't allowed to voice your political opinion?
I merely said your employer probably has guidelines about posting political opinions on public forums and social media. I also said that the views you've expressed are disturbing considering you come into contact with the very people you've expressed discriminatory views about in their time of need.
Happy feet
You assume I hate people on racial grounds or faith, right?Or if people are from abroad?
I do not, and respect all.
Bad in all groups, white or whatever, and nice in all peoples too.
I have met wonderful people from all creeds and colour, and live and work and play among some not nice white Brits a d Irish!
Do not presume to know me, or infer racism in my job!
Good lad, now jog on.
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posted 2 minutes ago
Happy feet
You assume I hate people on racial grounds or faith, right?Or if people are from abroad?
I do not, and respect all.
Bad in all groups, white or whatever, and nice in all peoples too.
I have met wonderful people from all creeds and colour, and live and work and play among some not nice white Brits a d Irish!
Do not presume to know me, or infer racism in my job!
Good lad, now jog on.
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Tbf you do come across Alf Garnett but more hardcore.
I have has good conversations with you where I think ok he has accepted what he said to be untrue to then find the same being spouted by you on another thread
TBAB
Nope, I don't know you. I can only go off what you've u say on here. This is why I said the views you've expressed............
Why do you think I'm of the opinion you have a problem with refugees, immigrants and migrants coming to these shores for various reasons?
This also makes me laugh;
"When French Protestants, Jews and west Indian migrants came here,,nu here were small and mixing was mostly good"
Really? Do you not remember the racism during the 60's, 70's and 80's inflicted on the above people? You left off Indians and Pakistanis that came over here and experienced a warm racist British welcome.
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posted 8 minutes ago
TBAB
Nope, I don't know you. I can only go off what you've u say on here. This is why I said the views you've expressed............
Why do you think I'm of the opinion you have a problem with refugees, immigrants and migrants coming to these shores for various reasons?
This also makes me laugh;
"When French Protestants, Jews and west Indian migrants came here,,nu here were small and mixing was mostly good"
Really? Do you not remember the racism during the 60's, 70's and 80's inflicted on the above people? You left off Indians and Pakistanis that came over here and experienced a warm racist British welcome.
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My own experience of the late 70's was not being able to go to the local park alone. As soon as you walked in a bunch of teens would walk straight over and start giving you grief. I got jumped by about 20 white lads I was 13. They were all 16+
At 16 I went to a college where for the first time I met many of my kind. Safety in numbers and all that and I started to fight back and then I was the problem
I have no animosity towards anyone, married to a white lass etc. However I still believe that the early immigrants were forced into ghettos and were always subservient preferring to walk away.
Later generations couldn't walk away and became a problem as they wouldn't just shut up and take it
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posted on 24/2/17
Asylum seeker and refugee are basically the same thing in this case, they are leaving countries for genuine reasons of war or persecution. I'm talking about economic migrants who pretend to be refugees/asylum seekers and get rid of documents so there is no proof who they're of where they are from. Merkel's policy has encouraged them to try their luck and see if they can get into Europe.
posted on 24/2/17
8bit
Asylum seekers are only given refugee status after their claim has been processed.
Economic migrants are not eligible for asylum. Distinguishing between the two (economic migrants and asylum seekers) is extremely difficult and time consuming.
But a migrant entering the UK to work is unable to do so without firstly going through the visa/migration programme. If an economic migrant is undocumented, they can’t enter the UK to work.
If their claim is approved by the HO I understand they are given a (think it’s four or five year) a stay in the UK.
posted on 24/2/17
8bit
I dont have an issue with economic migrants either, if people want to leave to better themselves more power to them, Norman Tebbitt, the darling of Thatchers right wing government urged people to do just that, get on their bikes and find work. I'm no bleeding heart, I'm all for removing ALL borders, don't care where you're from, what colour or creed you are, if you're willing to put up with a bucket load of shiiit to better yourself who am I, or more specifically, who are you, to stop them contributing to the society and economy?
Don't try and compare us with the Arab countries, they still think slavery us acceptable, that chopping of hands and flogging is acceptable, our LIBERAL society is a paragon of virtue compared to those self interested and medieval fiefdoms....your comparison is disingenuous.
posted on 24/2/17
I'm not against economic migrants but we won't solve all the problems by moving everyone to the UK and the west, take the brightest minds, best doctors, scientists, engineers etc from the third world and leave them with what. Instead of cramming all the wealth and talent into the small % of rich countries we should be making the rest of the world richer. But the fact is all countries act in their own self interest.
Don't you think it's nice that you have countries like Japan, India, Brazil with their own unique culture, people, food etc, African and Asian countries are fiercely protective of their culture as well. But in the west it's a negative to be proud of our culture and we've been too tolerant to a fault... carry on this way and we'll be a country with no loyalties or unity where everyone's just out for themselves.
posted on 24/2/17
8bit
Talking about culture, I've off to the pub in a minute.
I hear what youre saying but i think youre over egging the pudding, what specific cultural identities are we losing by accepting immigration? Seriously!
We're a multi cultural society and always have been, immigration has been good for the UK, since the war we've had our issues but we've dealt with them and we're a better place for it, I've travelled and lived in a few countries, the UK, bar the weather, is a fantastic place to live. Any problems we have politically are self manufactured by people hankering for the good old days, imo.
Sure we need to control who is coming in, but historically we have been a haven for exiles and dissidents, from Marx and Engels to Litvenenko.
posted on 24/2/17
Have been reading a piece (relates to NI but will impact the whole country) in regard to the UK pharmaceutical industry.
Northern Ireland's EU select committee interviewed industry members today. In a nutshell if the UK leaves the SM and customs union, the industry will disappear from UK shores.
In an already heavily regulated industry they are required to produce/manufacture drugs etc in the EU. If they're not, they can't be sold. There's no alternative.
posted on 24/2/17
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 3 hours, 50 minutes ago
Asylum seeker and refugee are basically the same thing in this case, they are leaving countries for genuine reasons of war or persecution. I'm talking about economic migrants who pretend to be refugees/asylum seekers and get rid of documents so there is no proof who they're of where they are from. Merkel's policy has encouraged them to try their luck and see if they can get into Europe.
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This.
Uncomfortable truths.
posted on 24/2/17
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 2 hours, 24 minutes ago
I'm not against economic migrants but we won't solve all the problems by moving everyone to the UK and the west, take the brightest minds, best doctors, scientists, engineers etc from the third world and leave them with what. Instead of cramming all the wealth and talent into the small % of rich countries we should be making the rest of the world richer. But the fact is all countries act in their own self interest.
Don't you think it's nice that you have countries like Japan, India, Brazil with their own unique culture, people, food etc, African and Asian countries are fiercely protective of their culture as well. But in the west it's a negative to be proud of our culture and we've been too tolerant to a fault... carry on this way and we'll be a country with no loyalties or unity where everyone's just out for themselves.
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Well said again, bro.
Only in the west do we push so called multi- culturalism, melting pots and self- loathing!
Liberal leftists are fine defending Muslim and hard-line islamist states, but mention God in the west ,and all hell breaks out.
While a temp travel vetting order was news, how many more Christians and yazidis have suffered, with no march, or celeb speech?
posted on 24/2/17
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 2 hours, 3 minutes ago
Have been reading a piece (relates to NI but will impact the whole country) in regard to the UK pharmaceutical industry.
Northern Ireland's EU select committee interviewed industry members today. In a nutshell if the UK leaves the SM and customs union, the industry will disappear from UK shores.
In an already heavily regulated industry they are required to produce/manufacture drugs etc in the EU. If they're not, they can't be sold. There's no alternative.
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Who cares if pro - union, pro- brexit business folk give the DUP money?
As I said, Provo's in our govt are funded by crime, and Irish America.
Not a crime to be funded, Pearce, from like minded punters.
posted on 24/2/17
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 2 hours, 15 minutes ago
8bit
Talking about culture, I've off to the pub in a minute.
I hear what youre saying but i think youre over egging the pudding, what specific cultural identities are we losing by accepting immigration? Seriously!
We're a multi cultural society and always have been, immigration has been good for the UK, since the war we've had our issues but we've dealt with them and we're a better place for it, I've travelled and lived in a few countries, the UK, bar the weather, is a fantastic place to live. Any problems we have politically are self manufactured by people hankering for the good old days, imo.
Sure we need to control who is coming in, but historically we have been a haven for exiles and dissidents, from Marx and Engels to Litvenenko.
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When there are ethnic British minorities in large areas of London, Brum, Leicester, Luton, Bradford, etc there are massive cultural changes.
Pubs and churches closing are cultural change.
No English kids in classrooms mean cultural change.
English as a second language, and dwindling christian traditions are cultural change.
Hardline feminism and militant lgbt activism is a cultural change.
When French Protestants, Jews and west Indian migrants came here,,nu here were small and mixing was mostly good.
Now, we have ghetto zones, separation, divided towns and less community spirit.
This is not about colour or faith or creed,but numbers.
posted on 24/2/17
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 2 hours, 17 minutes ago
Have been reading a piece (relates to NI but will impact the whole country) in regard to the UK pharmaceutical industry.
Northern Ireland's EU select committee interviewed industry members today. In a nutshell if the UK leaves the SM and customs union, the industry will disappear from UK shores.
In an already heavily regulated industry they are required to produce/manufacture drugs etc in the EU. If they're not, they can't be sold. There's no alternative.
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Good for Israel then.
posted on 24/2/17
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 2 hours, 3 minutes ago
Have been reading a piece (relates to NI but will impact the whole country) in regard to the UK pharmaceutical industry.
Northern Ireland's EU select committee interviewed industry members today. In a nutshell if the UK leaves the SM and customs union, the industry will disappear from UK shores.
In an already heavily regulated industry they are required to produce/manufacture drugs etc in the EU. If they're not, they can't be sold. There's no alternative.
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Who cares if pro - union, pro- brexit business folk give the DUP money?
As I said, Provo's in our govt are funded by crime, and Irish America.
Not a crime to be funded, Pearce, from like minded punters.
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Who cares? The Electoral Commission for one. And the fact that the DUP tried to cover it up by submitting a false (and considerably lower) expenditure return to the commission.
When asked last week, Foster said she had no idea how much the money was. More lies. Out of the £425,000 spent by the DUP, only 10k was spent on NI campaigning. £240,000 was spent on a Metro advert. Which isn't even circulated in NI.
The sole reason the DUP were used was because the funds could be hidden.
Bureaucracy at it's finest.
posted on 24/2/17
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 2 hours, 15 minutes ago
8bit
Talking about culture, I've off to the pub in a minute.
I hear what youre saying but i think youre over egging the pudding, what specific cultural identities are we losing by accepting immigration? Seriously!
We're a multi cultural society and always have been, immigration has been good for the UK, since the war we've had our issues but we've dealt with them and we're a better place for it, I've travelled and lived in a few countries, the UK, bar the weather, is a fantastic place to live. Any problems we have politically are self manufactured by people hankering for the good old days, imo.
Sure we need to control who is coming in, but historically we have been a haven for exiles and dissidents, from Marx and Engels to Litvenenko.
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When there are ethnic British minorities in large areas of London, Brum, Leicester, Luton, Bradford, etc there are massive cultural changes.
Pubs and churches closing are cultural change.
No English kids in classrooms mean cultural change.
English as a second language, and dwindling christian traditions are cultural change.
Hardline feminism and militant lgbt activism is a cultural change.
When French Protestants, Jews and west Indian migrants came here,,nu here were small and mixing was mostly good.
Now, we have ghetto zones, separation, divided towns and less community spirit.
This is not about colour or faith or creed,but numbers.
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Do you ever read your posts out loud, and then think, what on earth is that
posted on 24/2/17
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 2 hours, 17 minutes ago
Have been reading a piece (relates to NI but will impact the whole country) in regard to the UK pharmaceutical industry.
Northern Ireland's EU select committee interviewed industry members today. In a nutshell if the UK leaves the SM and customs union, the industry will disappear from UK shores.
In an already heavily regulated industry they are required to produce/manufacture drugs etc in the EU. If they're not, they can't be sold. There's no alternative.
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Good for Israel then.
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Wikipedia:
"The pharmaceutical industry in the United Kingdom directly employs around 72,000 people and in 2007 contributed £8.4 billion to the UK's GDP and invested a total of £3.9 billion in research and development.[1][2] In 2007 exports of pharmaceutical products from the UK totalled £14.6 billion, creating a trade surplus in pharmaceutical products of £4.3 billion."
posted on 24/2/17
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 2 hours, 15 minutes ago
8bit
Talking about culture, I've off to the pub in a minute.
I hear what youre saying but i think youre over egging the pudding, what specific cultural identities are we losing by accepting immigration? Seriously!
We're a multi cultural society and always have been, immigration has been good for the UK, since the war we've had our issues but we've dealt with them and we're a better place for it, I've travelled and lived in a few countries, the UK, bar the weather, is a fantastic place to live. Any problems we have politically are self manufactured by people hankering for the good old days, imo.
Sure we need to control who is coming in, but historically we have been a haven for exiles and dissidents, from Marx and Engels to Litvenenko.
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When there are ethnic British minorities in large areas of London, Brum, Leicester, Luton, Bradford, etc there are massive cultural changes.
Pubs and churches closing are cultural change.
No English kids in classrooms mean cultural change.
English as a second language, and dwindling christian traditions are cultural change.
Hardline feminism and militant lgbt activism is a cultural change.
When French Protestants, Jews and west Indian migrants came here,,nu here were small and mixing was mostly good.
Now, we have ghetto zones, separation, divided towns and less community spirit.
This is not about colour or faith or creed,but numbers.
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Do you ever read your posts out loud, and then think, what on earth is that
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As I said earlier. It's disturbing that TBAB is a civil servant and expressing views that could be seen as discriminatory. I reckon there's rules issued by the DWP about posting on social media and public forums.
posted on 24/2/17
comment by Coutinho's Happy Feet (U18971)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 2 hours, 15 minutes ago
8bit
Talking about culture, I've off to the pub in a minute.
I hear what youre saying but i think youre over egging the pudding, what specific cultural identities are we losing by accepting immigration? Seriously!
We're a multi cultural society and always have been, immigration has been good for the UK, since the war we've had our issues but we've dealt with them and we're a better place for it, I've travelled and lived in a few countries, the UK, bar the weather, is a fantastic place to live. Any problems we have politically are self manufactured by people hankering for the good old days, imo.
Sure we need to control who is coming in, but historically we have been a haven for exiles and dissidents, from Marx and Engels to Litvenenko.
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When there are ethnic British minorities in large areas of London, Brum, Leicester, Luton, Bradford, etc there are massive cultural changes.
Pubs and churches closing are cultural change.
No English kids in classrooms mean cultural change.
English as a second language, and dwindling christian traditions are cultural change.
Hardline feminism and militant lgbt activism is a cultural change.
When French Protestants, Jews and west Indian migrants came here,,nu here were small and mixing was mostly good.
Now, we have ghetto zones, separation, divided towns and less community spirit.
This is not about colour or faith or creed,but numbers.
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Do you ever read your posts out loud, and then think, what on earth is that
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As I said earlier. It's disturbing that TBAB is a civil servant and expressing views that could be seen as discriminatory. I reckon there's rules issued by the DWP about posting on social media and public forums.
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I'm a little bit pisssed but it bothers me that my British brethren can hold such bigoted views.
Having worked in housing in Poplar and seen first hand the difference between new arrivals and native born, I'm thrilled by the difference, the entrepreneurial spirit, the opportunity, the music and ethos the new Brits have brought to east London, I don't want to hold that back, I don't want to vote against that, I want more if it.
posted on 25/2/17
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 13 hours, 22 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 2 hours, 15 minutes ago
8bit
Talking about culture, I've off to the pub in a minute.
I hear what youre saying but i think youre over egging the pudding, what specific cultural identities are we losing by accepting immigration? Seriously!
We're a multi cultural society and always have been, immigration has been good for the UK, since the war we've had our issues but we've dealt with them and we're a better place for it, I've travelled and lived in a few countries, the UK, bar the weather, is a fantastic place to live. Any problems we have politically are self manufactured by people hankering for the good old days, imo.
Sure we need to control who is coming in, but historically we have been a haven for exiles and dissidents, from Marx and Engels to Litvenenko.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
When there are ethnic British minorities in large areas of London, Brum, Leicester, Luton, Bradford, etc there are massive cultural changes.
Pubs and churches closing are cultural change.
No English kids in classrooms mean cultural change.
English as a second language, and dwindling christian traditions are cultural change.
Hardline feminism and militant lgbt activism is a cultural change.
When French Protestants, Jews and west Indian migrants came here,,nu here were small and mixing was mostly good.
Now, we have ghetto zones, separation, divided towns and less community spirit.
This is not about colour or faith or creed,but numbers.
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Do you ever read your posts out loud, and then think, what on earth is that
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Nah.
Having lived and worked in Southall, Hounslow, Wembley, Brixton areas I saw cultural change first hand, and that was from mid- 80's to early 90's.
The people were mostly fine with us, from Jamaican, Sikh and Muslim background , but there were often few if any white English around, which is massively significant.
If you go to Italy, you expect to experience Italian culture and people, and same in Japan.
Now, parts of the UK and Europe have gone through huge cultural change.
To say otherwise is false and achieves nothing.
I also see islamists killing Christians again in Egypt this week, and look forward to Hec and you and Oscar celebs protesting😀😀😀😀
And in south Africa, black south Africans out rioting against foreign migrant workers yesterday, so Trump to blame there too boys😉
Ya wee hypocrites!
posted on 25/2/17
comment by Coutinho's Happy Feet (U18971)
posted 13 hours, 16 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 2 hours, 15 minutes ago
8bit
Talking about culture, I've off to the pub in a minute.
I hear what youre saying but i think youre over egging the pudding, what specific cultural identities are we losing by accepting immigration? Seriously!
We're a multi cultural society and always have been, immigration has been good for the UK, since the war we've had our issues but we've dealt with them and we're a better place for it, I've travelled and lived in a few countries, the UK, bar the weather, is a fantastic place to live. Any problems we have politically are self manufactured by people hankering for the good old days, imo.
Sure we need to control who is coming in, but historically we have been a haven for exiles and dissidents, from Marx and Engels to Litvenenko.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
When there are ethnic British minorities in large areas of London, Brum, Leicester, Luton, Bradford, etc there are massive cultural changes.
Pubs and churches closing are cultural change.
No English kids in classrooms mean cultural change.
English as a second language, and dwindling christian traditions are cultural change.
Hardline feminism and militant lgbt activism is a cultural change.
When French Protestants, Jews and west Indian migrants came here,,nu here were small and mixing was mostly good.
Now, we have ghetto zones, separation, divided towns and less community spirit.
This is not about colour or faith or creed,but numbers.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Do you ever read your posts out loud, and then think, what on earth is that
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As I said earlier. It's disturbing that TBAB is a civil servant and expressing views that could be seen as discriminatory. I reckon there's rules issued by the DWP about posting on social media and public forums.
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How facist of you trying to suppress or discriminate on free speech, or political opinion !
Some liberal you are!
posted on 25/2/17
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 12 hours, 28 minutes ago
comment by Coutinho's Happy Feet (U18971)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 2 hours, 15 minutes ago
8bit
Talking about culture, I've off to the pub in a minute.
I hear what youre saying but i think youre over egging the pudding, what specific cultural identities are we losing by accepting immigration? Seriously!
We're a multi cultural society and always have been, immigration has been good for the UK, since the war we've had our issues but we've dealt with them and we're a better place for it, I've travelled and lived in a few countries, the UK, bar the weather, is a fantastic place to live. Any problems we have politically are self manufactured by people hankering for the good old days, imo.
Sure we need to control who is coming in, but historically we have been a haven for exiles and dissidents, from Marx and Engels to Litvenenko.
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When there are ethnic British minorities in large areas of London, Brum, Leicester, Luton, Bradford, etc there are massive cultural changes.
Pubs and churches closing are cultural change.
No English kids in classrooms mean cultural change.
English as a second language, and dwindling christian traditions are cultural change.
Hardline feminism and militant lgbt activism is a cultural change.
When French Protestants, Jews and west Indian migrants came here,,nu here were small and mixing was mostly good.
Now, we have ghetto zones, separation, divided towns and less community spirit.
This is not about colour or faith or creed,but numbers.
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Do you ever read your posts out loud, and then think, what on earth is that
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As I said earlier. It's disturbing that TBAB is a civil servant and expressing views that could be seen as discriminatory. I reckon there's rules issued by the DWP about posting on social media and public forums.
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I'm a little bit pisssed but it bothers me that my British brethren can hold such bigoted views.
Having worked in housing in Poplar and seen first hand the difference between new arrivals and native born, I'm thrilled by the difference, the entrepreneurial spirit, the opportunity, the music and ethos the new Brits have brought to east London, I don't want to hold that back, I don't want to vote against that, I want more if it.
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Fair enough, but you have simply highlighted the significant cultural change you denied earlier😀
As I said, it is about numbers, and as you know now, the east end English have largely gone to Essex, and the white English," locals", as you you sneer at, are the new white underclass, largely left behind by govt and society.
posted on 25/2/17
Hec
Bigotted British brethren?
Look in the mirror, calling folk names yet again!
Hypocrite.
I simply provided evidence of mass cultural change, to could her your claim.
I am not saying, white power, blacks out, Muslims out, no migrants or refugees here etc!
Then again, Rory McIlroy is called a facist bigot for Golfing with Trump, in the regressive left social media world.
Grow up and get over it!
posted on 25/2/17
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Coutinho's Happy Feet (U18971)
posted 13 hours, 16 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 2 hours, 15 minutes ago
8bit
Talking about culture, I've off to the pub in a minute.
I hear what youre saying but i think youre over egging the pudding, what specific cultural identities are we losing by accepting immigration? Seriously!
We're a multi cultural society and always have been, immigration has been good for the UK, since the war we've had our issues but we've dealt with them and we're a better place for it, I've travelled and lived in a few countries, the UK, bar the weather, is a fantastic place to live. Any problems we have politically are self manufactured by people hankering for the good old days, imo.
Sure we need to control who is coming in, but historically we have been a haven for exiles and dissidents, from Marx and Engels to Litvenenko.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
When there are ethnic British minorities in large areas of London, Brum, Leicester, Luton, Bradford, etc there are massive cultural changes.
Pubs and churches closing are cultural change.
No English kids in classrooms mean cultural change.
English as a second language, and dwindling christian traditions are cultural change.
Hardline feminism and militant lgbt activism is a cultural change.
When French Protestants, Jews and west Indian migrants came here,,nu here were small and mixing was mostly good.
Now, we have ghetto zones, separation, divided towns and less community spirit.
This is not about colour or faith or creed,but numbers.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Do you ever read your posts out loud, and then think, what on earth is that
----------------------------------------------------------------------
As I said earlier. It's disturbing that TBAB is a civil servant and expressing views that could be seen as discriminatory. I reckon there's rules issued by the DWP about posting on social media and public forums.
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How facist of you trying to suppress or discriminate on free speech, or political opinion !
Some liberal you are!
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Where did I say you weren't allowed to voice your political opinion?
I merely said your employer probably has guidelines about posting political opinions on public forums and social media. I also said that the views you've expressed are disturbing considering you come into contact with the very people you've expressed discriminatory views about in their time of need.
posted on 25/2/17
Happy feet
You assume I hate people on racial grounds or faith, right?Or if people are from abroad?
I do not, and respect all.
Bad in all groups, white or whatever, and nice in all peoples too.
I have met wonderful people from all creeds and colour, and live and work and play among some not nice white Brits a d Irish!
Do not presume to know me, or infer racism in my job!
Good lad, now jog on.
posted on 25/2/17
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 2 minutes ago
Happy feet
You assume I hate people on racial grounds or faith, right?Or if people are from abroad?
I do not, and respect all.
Bad in all groups, white or whatever, and nice in all peoples too.
I have met wonderful people from all creeds and colour, and live and work and play among some not nice white Brits a d Irish!
Do not presume to know me, or infer racism in my job!
Good lad, now jog on.
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Tbf you do come across Alf Garnett but more hardcore.
I have has good conversations with you where I think ok he has accepted what he said to be untrue to then find the same being spouted by you on another thread
posted on 25/2/17
TBAB
Nope, I don't know you. I can only go off what you've u say on here. This is why I said the views you've expressed............
Why do you think I'm of the opinion you have a problem with refugees, immigrants and migrants coming to these shores for various reasons?
This also makes me laugh;
"When French Protestants, Jews and west Indian migrants came here,,nu here were small and mixing was mostly good"
Really? Do you not remember the racism during the 60's, 70's and 80's inflicted on the above people? You left off Indians and Pakistanis that came over here and experienced a warm racist British welcome.
posted on 25/2/17
comment by Coutinho's Happy Feet (U18971)
posted 8 minutes ago
TBAB
Nope, I don't know you. I can only go off what you've u say on here. This is why I said the views you've expressed............
Why do you think I'm of the opinion you have a problem with refugees, immigrants and migrants coming to these shores for various reasons?
This also makes me laugh;
"When French Protestants, Jews and west Indian migrants came here,,nu here were small and mixing was mostly good"
Really? Do you not remember the racism during the 60's, 70's and 80's inflicted on the above people? You left off Indians and Pakistanis that came over here and experienced a warm racist British welcome.
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My own experience of the late 70's was not being able to go to the local park alone. As soon as you walked in a bunch of teens would walk straight over and start giving you grief. I got jumped by about 20 white lads I was 13. They were all 16+
At 16 I went to a college where for the first time I met many of my kind. Safety in numbers and all that and I started to fight back and then I was the problem
I have no animosity towards anyone, married to a white lass etc. However I still believe that the early immigrants were forced into ghettos and were always subservient preferring to walk away.
Later generations couldn't walk away and became a problem as they wouldn't just shut up and take it
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