comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 3 minutes ago
I think it’s a little unfair to call those who voted Leave racist, as I know many (normal) people who just wanted out.
However when you have large sections of the press and media spouting utter lies about migrants for years (IPSO have had a field day - Express, S*n and Mail the main offenders) some of it has stuck. Millions of people were prepared to be poorer just to protect the UK from the ‘hoards’
I also don’t agree with those campaigning to prevent Brexit as I am a firm believer in democracy. The irony is that the UK will undoubtly be less democratic when it does leave the EU.
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Politicians were about 5 years too late to recognise the negative impacts of the high immigration and instead branded everyone racist. That is exactly what has led to the rise of the far right. Even now you get token gestures from Labour about it, and Cameron's failed promises to bring it down to 100k. people want to blame the plebs instead of the politicians that screwed them. Labour have no chance of getting elected unless they speak on the same level as the people on immigration so the liberals can keep moaning about racism but unless they wake up they'll be stuck with right wing governments.
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I think it’s fair to say the EU has its problems. Despite the utopia it was made out to be by Remain. But inequality/division was not created by the EU. It has been created by social and financial disparity.
The UK leaving the EU will do nothing to build bridges between migrants, (both EU and non-EU) living and working in the UK.
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The EU will be finished within 5 years, totally shut down
75% of CEO's from the leading companies in the UK have thought about moving headquarters to a foreign country after brexit. I read that on Linked in this morning.
comment by enlightened hippo - i got mou babe (U1301)
posted 1 minute ago
How are 20 year olds gonna afford a house now unless they are left a massive inheritance, how can kids from poor backgrounds afford further education? The older generation are honestly a cancer.
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Yes, those ww2 surviving planks had it easy all their lives and now they want more
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To be fair to him, i think your way off their. anyone during the ww2 days will not be around for long. The issue is the generation after, they did not pay for the war, had everything there way and now stuck it too the generation below them. We are not talking about the ww2 gen we are talking about the one after the people who are about 50s. not 65 and upwards. The generation below were truely selfish
Still no responses from leave voters as to why they 1. voted that way 2. How they think it will beneift them / the UK
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comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Edinthpur - I inceptioned Galv (U1109)
posted 2 minutes ago
Kids already are paying for it.
How are 20 year olds gonna afford a house now unless they are left a massive inheritance, how can kids from poor backgrounds afford further education? The older generation are honestly a cancer.
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Again all these problems were caused while we were in the EU. inequality is rising all across Europe and the middle class is shrinking. time for change
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Do you honestly see it changing post exit though?
Will young professionals be able to afford to buy? Will the rental market become more affordable? Will the status quo regarding further education change?
The things listed above weren't created as a result of being in The EU. They were created as a result of our domestic politics.
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No idea if it will change but it definitely wouldn't have in the EU. Some EU politician was talking about an EU army last week though... something that was flat out denied by Cameron in the run up to the referendum. The EU doesn't want to change and will continue down it's failed path, we got out at the right time.
75% of CEO's from the leading companies in the UK have thought about moving headquarters to a foreign country after brexit. I read that on Linked in this morning.**
yeah they've been thinking about doing it for over 3 months now if not longer, isn't going to happen
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 3 minutes ago
I think it’s a little unfair to call those who voted Leave racist, as I know many (normal) people who just wanted out.
However when you have large sections of the press and media spouting utter lies about migrants for years (IPSO have had a field day - Express, S*n and Mail the main offenders) some of it has stuck. Millions of people were prepared to be poorer just to protect the UK from the ‘hoards’
I also don’t agree with those campaigning to prevent Brexit as I am a firm believer in democracy. The irony is that the UK will undoubtly be less democratic when it does leave the EU.
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Politicians were about 5 years too late to recognise the negative impacts of the high immigration and instead branded everyone racist. That is exactly what has led to the rise of the far right. Even now you get token gestures from Labour about it, and Cameron's failed promises to bring it down to 100k. people want to blame the plebs instead of the politicians that screwed them. Labour have no chance of getting elected unless they speak on the same level as the people on immigration so the liberals can keep moaning about racism but unless they wake up they'll be stuck with right wing governments.
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Agree.
Much like Trump’s assentation in the US, people have become disenfranchised with the political/social/financial landscape.
It was incredible however how much the EU was blamed for UK austerity. When in fact the cuts to housing, welfare etc etc were brought about by consecutive UK governments. And had absolutely nothing to do with the EU.
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comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Edinthpur - I inceptioned Galv (U1109)
posted 2 minutes ago
Kids already are paying for it.
How are 20 year olds gonna afford a house now unless they are left a massive inheritance, how can kids from poor backgrounds afford further education? The older generation are honestly a cancer.
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Again all these problems were caused while we were in the EU. inequality is rising all across Europe and the middle class is shrinking. time for change
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Do you honestly see it changing post exit though?
Will young professionals be able to afford to buy? Will the rental market become more affordable? Will the status quo regarding further education change?
The things listed above weren't created as a result of being in The EU. They were created as a result of our domestic politics.
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No idea if it will change but it definitely wouldn't have in the EU. Some EU politician was talking about an EU army last week though... something that was flat out denied by Cameron in the run up to the referendum. The EU doesn't want to change and will continue down it's failed path, we got out at the right time.
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Point being that the things you lay at the door of The EU, housing and uni education, are a result of the failings of successive governments and not The EU themselves.
I would imagine all those brave men who laid down their lives in world war 1 and 2 are thinking in their graves why did i bother saving my country for such an ungrateful horrible rude selfish lazy bunch of caaaaaaants
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Could they also be thinking that ' I travelled to other countries and gave my life to save people whose lives were being put at risk by war and to stop the slaughter of children and the decimation of their countries, and these horrible rude selfish lazy bunch of caaaaaaants wont even let them in'!?
Just another opinion of course as you are surmising what the dead are thinking and that is too stupid to even argue against!
comment by Wearethefamous THFC (U19211)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 16 seconds ago
Still no responses from leave voters as to why they 1. voted that way 2. How they think it will beneift them / the UK
Fking hell, have you had your head in the sand for last 2 months
Free to make our own laws, trade with the world on our own terms with the biggest growing economy's in the world and not having to bale out a corrupt and failing EU thats on its last legs........ thats just for starters
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If you seriously thin we will make all our laws your deluded. we will still have to abide by EU laws if we are exporting or importing from them
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comment by Wearethefamous THFC (U19211)
posted 3 minutes ago
Im talking about rest of the world and no we wont have to abide by their laws to do that.. the EU need our trade as much as we need theirs so please dont think all their postering is anything but hot air and bluster
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hold on there, are you telling me there will be one rule for us and another for everybody else
comment by Wearethefamous THFC (U19211)
posted 1 minute ago
Im talking about rest of the world and no we wont have to abide by their laws to do that.. the EU need our trade as much as we need theirs so please dont think all their postering is anything but hot air and bluster
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What exactly does Britain offer worth trading that other countries won't ?
KoemanYouBlues
When (as I noted previously) businesses (especially in financial services) have already left, how can you now claim it hasn’t happened??
Lloyd’s insurance for example informed Ch4 news that they already had contingency plans (one of many) in place when Cameron announced there would be a referendum. One of which was (the cheaper option) to move operations into the EU.
As without access to the single market (losing passporting) they could not operate/trade in Europe.
Given financial services account for around three quarters of the UK economy how do you think things will now pan out?
comment by Wearethefamous THFC (U19211)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by enlightened hippo - i got mou babe (U1301)
posted 2 minutes ago
How are 20 year olds gonna afford a house now unless they are left a massive inheritance, how can kids from poor backgrounds afford further education? The older generation are honestly a cancer.
.......
Yes, those ww2 surviving planks had it easy all their lives and now they want more
yep two jobs, fighting a world war, one outside toilet, really had it easy.. poor kids today have to put up with just having computers, cars, mobils, more free time, more money, more choice.... i really feel sorry for them
I would imagine all those brave men who laid down their lives in world war 1 and 2 are thinking in their graves why did i bother saving my country for such an ungrateful horrible rude selfish lazy bunch of caaaaaaants
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You're piniong after "the good old days" they're dead and gone, "get over it"
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posted on 29/9/16
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 3 minutes ago
I think it’s a little unfair to call those who voted Leave racist, as I know many (normal) people who just wanted out.
However when you have large sections of the press and media spouting utter lies about migrants for years (IPSO have had a field day - Express, S*n and Mail the main offenders) some of it has stuck. Millions of people were prepared to be poorer just to protect the UK from the ‘hoards’
I also don’t agree with those campaigning to prevent Brexit as I am a firm believer in democracy. The irony is that the UK will undoubtly be less democratic when it does leave the EU.
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Politicians were about 5 years too late to recognise the negative impacts of the high immigration and instead branded everyone racist. That is exactly what has led to the rise of the far right. Even now you get token gestures from Labour about it, and Cameron's failed promises to bring it down to 100k. people want to blame the plebs instead of the politicians that screwed them. Labour have no chance of getting elected unless they speak on the same level as the people on immigration so the liberals can keep moaning about racism but unless they wake up they'll be stuck with right wing governments.
posted on 29/9/16
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posted on 29/9/16
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posted on 29/9/16
I think it’s fair to say the EU has its problems. Despite the utopia it was made out to be by Remain. But inequality/division was not created by the EU. It has been created by social and financial disparity.
The UK leaving the EU will do nothing to build bridges between migrants, (both EU and non-EU) living and working in the UK.
posted on 29/9/16
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posted on 29/9/16
The EU will be finished within 5 years, totally shut down
posted on 29/9/16
75% of CEO's from the leading companies in the UK have thought about moving headquarters to a foreign country after brexit. I read that on Linked in this morning.
posted on 29/9/16
comment by enlightened hippo - i got mou babe (U1301)
posted 1 minute ago
How are 20 year olds gonna afford a house now unless they are left a massive inheritance, how can kids from poor backgrounds afford further education? The older generation are honestly a cancer.
.......
Yes, those ww2 surviving planks had it easy all their lives and now they want more
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To be fair to him, i think your way off their. anyone during the ww2 days will not be around for long. The issue is the generation after, they did not pay for the war, had everything there way and now stuck it too the generation below them. We are not talking about the ww2 gen we are talking about the one after the people who are about 50s. not 65 and upwards. The generation below were truely selfish
posted on 29/9/16
Still no responses from leave voters as to why they 1. voted that way 2. How they think it will beneift them / the UK
posted on 29/9/16
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posted on 29/9/16
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Edinthpur - I inceptioned Galv (U1109)
posted 2 minutes ago
Kids already are paying for it.
How are 20 year olds gonna afford a house now unless they are left a massive inheritance, how can kids from poor backgrounds afford further education? The older generation are honestly a cancer.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Again all these problems were caused while we were in the EU. inequality is rising all across Europe and the middle class is shrinking. time for change
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Do you honestly see it changing post exit though?
Will young professionals be able to afford to buy? Will the rental market become more affordable? Will the status quo regarding further education change?
The things listed above weren't created as a result of being in The EU. They were created as a result of our domestic politics.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No idea if it will change but it definitely wouldn't have in the EU. Some EU politician was talking about an EU army last week though... something that was flat out denied by Cameron in the run up to the referendum. The EU doesn't want to change and will continue down it's failed path, we got out at the right time.
posted on 29/9/16
75% of CEO's from the leading companies in the UK have thought about moving headquarters to a foreign country after brexit. I read that on Linked in this morning.**
yeah they've been thinking about doing it for over 3 months now if not longer, isn't going to happen
posted on 29/9/16
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 3 minutes ago
I think it’s a little unfair to call those who voted Leave racist, as I know many (normal) people who just wanted out.
However when you have large sections of the press and media spouting utter lies about migrants for years (IPSO have had a field day - Express, S*n and Mail the main offenders) some of it has stuck. Millions of people were prepared to be poorer just to protect the UK from the ‘hoards’
I also don’t agree with those campaigning to prevent Brexit as I am a firm believer in democracy. The irony is that the UK will undoubtly be less democratic when it does leave the EU.
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Politicians were about 5 years too late to recognise the negative impacts of the high immigration and instead branded everyone racist. That is exactly what has led to the rise of the far right. Even now you get token gestures from Labour about it, and Cameron's failed promises to bring it down to 100k. people want to blame the plebs instead of the politicians that screwed them. Labour have no chance of getting elected unless they speak on the same level as the people on immigration so the liberals can keep moaning about racism but unless they wake up they'll be stuck with right wing governments.
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Agree.
Much like Trump’s assentation in the US, people have become disenfranchised with the political/social/financial landscape.
It was incredible however how much the EU was blamed for UK austerity. When in fact the cuts to housing, welfare etc etc were brought about by consecutive UK governments. And had absolutely nothing to do with the EU.
posted on 29/9/16
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posted on 29/9/16
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Edinthpur - I inceptioned Galv (U1109)
posted 2 minutes ago
Kids already are paying for it.
How are 20 year olds gonna afford a house now unless they are left a massive inheritance, how can kids from poor backgrounds afford further education? The older generation are honestly a cancer.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Again all these problems were caused while we were in the EU. inequality is rising all across Europe and the middle class is shrinking. time for change
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Do you honestly see it changing post exit though?
Will young professionals be able to afford to buy? Will the rental market become more affordable? Will the status quo regarding further education change?
The things listed above weren't created as a result of being in The EU. They were created as a result of our domestic politics.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No idea if it will change but it definitely wouldn't have in the EU. Some EU politician was talking about an EU army last week though... something that was flat out denied by Cameron in the run up to the referendum. The EU doesn't want to change and will continue down it's failed path, we got out at the right time.
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Point being that the things you lay at the door of The EU, housing and uni education, are a result of the failings of successive governments and not The EU themselves.
posted on 29/9/16
I would imagine all those brave men who laid down their lives in world war 1 and 2 are thinking in their graves why did i bother saving my country for such an ungrateful horrible rude selfish lazy bunch of caaaaaaants
---------------------------------------------------------------
Could they also be thinking that ' I travelled to other countries and gave my life to save people whose lives were being put at risk by war and to stop the slaughter of children and the decimation of their countries, and these horrible rude selfish lazy bunch of caaaaaaants wont even let them in'!?
Just another opinion of course as you are surmising what the dead are thinking and that is too stupid to even argue against!
posted on 29/9/16
comment by Wearethefamous THFC (U19211)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 16 seconds ago
Still no responses from leave voters as to why they 1. voted that way 2. How they think it will beneift them / the UK
Fking hell, have you had your head in the sand for last 2 months
Free to make our own laws, trade with the world on our own terms with the biggest growing economy's in the world and not having to bale out a corrupt and failing EU thats on its last legs........ thats just for starters
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If you seriously thin we will make all our laws your deluded. we will still have to abide by EU laws if we are exporting or importing from them
posted on 29/9/16
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posted on 29/9/16
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posted on 29/9/16
comment by Wearethefamous THFC (U19211)
posted 3 minutes ago
Im talking about rest of the world and no we wont have to abide by their laws to do that.. the EU need our trade as much as we need theirs so please dont think all their postering is anything but hot air and bluster
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hold on there, are you telling me there will be one rule for us and another for everybody else
posted on 29/9/16
comment by Wearethefamous THFC (U19211)
posted 1 minute ago
Im talking about rest of the world and no we wont have to abide by their laws to do that.. the EU need our trade as much as we need theirs so please dont think all their postering is anything but hot air and bluster
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What exactly does Britain offer worth trading that other countries won't ?
posted on 29/9/16
KoemanYouBlues
When (as I noted previously) businesses (especially in financial services) have already left, how can you now claim it hasn’t happened??
Lloyd’s insurance for example informed Ch4 news that they already had contingency plans (one of many) in place when Cameron announced there would be a referendum. One of which was (the cheaper option) to move operations into the EU.
As without access to the single market (losing passporting) they could not operate/trade in Europe.
Given financial services account for around three quarters of the UK economy how do you think things will now pan out?
posted on 29/9/16
comment by Wearethefamous THFC (U19211)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by enlightened hippo - i got mou babe (U1301)
posted 2 minutes ago
How are 20 year olds gonna afford a house now unless they are left a massive inheritance, how can kids from poor backgrounds afford further education? The older generation are honestly a cancer.
.......
Yes, those ww2 surviving planks had it easy all their lives and now they want more
yep two jobs, fighting a world war, one outside toilet, really had it easy.. poor kids today have to put up with just having computers, cars, mobils, more free time, more money, more choice.... i really feel sorry for them
I would imagine all those brave men who laid down their lives in world war 1 and 2 are thinking in their graves why did i bother saving my country for such an ungrateful horrible rude selfish lazy bunch of caaaaaaants
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You're piniong after "the good old days" they're dead and gone, "get over it"
posted on 29/9/16
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