I think Spurs did.
Bottling it is not playing to your best when under pressure. Did Spurs play to their best at the business end of the season?
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
And we bottled finishing above Arsenal, but not the title race, which was implied here.
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No, you bottled the title race
Apart from Chelsea, the race for top 4 is arguably the best in recent memory.
Wouldn't mind seeing both Arsenal & City lose out on the CL. Although i dont think one season out of the CL may hurt either club that much.
Firstly, we weren't even expected to make top 4. People wrote us off in favour of the other big sides, inc. ourselves. Secondly we were never ahead of Leicester at any point and in fact quite far off the pace at the start of the year. As I say, Arsenal actually were ahead at one point around this time. What is their excuse?
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 6 minutes ago
Firstly, we weren't even expected to make top 4. People wrote us off in favour of the other big sides, inc. ourselves. Secondly we were never ahead of Leicester at any point and in fact quite far off the pace at the start of the year. As I say, Arsenal actually were ahead at one point around this time. What is their excuse?
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Arsenal clearly wanted to finish 4th. That's as good as 1st for them. Surely you know that by now?
comment by RKW (U13169)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 6 minutes ago
Firstly, we weren't even expected to make top 4. People wrote us off in favour of the other big sides, inc. ourselves. Secondly we were never ahead of Leicester at any point and in fact quite far off the pace at the start of the year. As I say, Arsenal actually were ahead at one point around this time. What is their excuse?
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Arsenal clearly wanted to finish 4th. That's as good as 1st for them. Surely you know that by now?
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Not bad enough to finish 4th, not good enough to finish first. Huge bottlejob either way.
I think spurs from right now looks ominous for arsenal and city.
Kane and alli are absolutely flying and they are mean at the back so that really puts them down as a side capable of challenging.
LFc will do ok I think once a few remaining issues are ironed out. having to publicly announce the matip scenario to force a response for example and figuring out how to get mane replaced v chelsea.
Arsenal look up and down, utd look better than city.
but yes. the costa thing gave hope to clubs we need to see if they really steamrollered leicester or if leicester are just muck
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 10 minutes ago
Firstly, we weren't even expected to make top 4. People wrote us off in favour of the other big sides, inc. ourselves. Secondly we were never ahead of Leicester at any point and in fact quite far off the pace at the start of the year. As I say, Arsenal actually were ahead at one point around this time. What is their excuse?
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If you had held on when you were 2-1 up against Arsenal you would have claimed Top spot and in the form you were in who knows.But against a 10 men arsenal you got to excited, lost discipline, dropped 2 points and that was it.
That was your chance.Beyond that you were always chasing.The results against Westbrom, Chelsea and Stoke just sealed the embarrassment.
Leicester were playing away at united the following day, a game which they drew. If you had won that game against Arsenal I think you would have won the league.
comment by taxidriver (U21039)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 10 minutes ago
Firstly, we weren't even expected to make top 4. People wrote us off in favour of the other big sides, inc. ourselves. Secondly we were never ahead of Leicester at any point and in fact quite far off the pace at the start of the year. As I say, Arsenal actually were ahead at one point around this time. What is their excuse?
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If you had held on when you were 2-1 up against Arsenal you would have claimed Top spot and in the form you were in who knows.But against a 10 men arsenal you got to excited, lost discipline, dropped 2 points and that was it.
That was your chance.Beyond that you were always chasing.The results against Westbrom, Chelsea and Stoke just sealed the embarrassment.
Leicester were playing away at united the following day, a game which they drew. If you had won that game against Arsenal I think you would have won the league.
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You've clearly got your facts mixed up. Leicester were playing Watford with their game in hand, which they won. meaning we'd have only temporarily been on top of the league.
However Arsenal actually were top of the league for almost a month, and lost their position after losing to 10th place Chelsea at home.
The only way we will get in the top four is if we win our away games against the teams above us.
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 hours, 16 minutes ago
The only way we will get in the top four is if we win our away games against the teams above us.
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from what I've seen of the top 6 v the rest that seems plausible.
Arsenal and city need to implode to let you catch up. they re always capable of it though.
comment by Robbing_Hoody (U6374)
posted 5 hours, 22 minutes ago
I think Spurs did.
Bottling it is not playing to your best when under pressure. Did Spurs play to their best at the business end of the season?
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Going into the Chelsea game last April, a must win game, our form from the turn of the year had been P14, W10, D3 L1. That aint the form of bottlers, it's actually the form of a team thrusting themselves into contention....as it was we drew at The Bridge. No disgrace there either, especially as it was the only half of football all season that CFC decided to play to their very best. But we were never at the top of the league, always playing catchup and normally always playing 2nd. Once the title chance was gone, our spirit was broken, hence losses in the last 2 games
I can understand why people dont take Spurs' threat seriously, based on history. I just hope we can wipe the smile off their faces sometime in the future.
But really Arsenal are the bottlers here. In a season when 80 points wins them the league the mustered their lowest total in years. They have in the past achieved 79 pts to end 4th, so are well capable. In a season when Utd, City and Chelsea all fall away, its Arsenals title to lose. They never got close to it.
Spurs bottled second place
They're in second place now.. will they bottle it again?
Spurs are a fantastic side who deserve to be where they are. But, by the same token, they can be really tempremental. If offered, like us, they would take a top four slot now.
But returning to yesterday's game, who do you think was the more happy after the game, Jurgen or Maureen? Maureen was going mental at times like I've never seen him before. You look at Martial, Pogba, Mkitayrian at what, combined, £150M+, and did he get any value for money out of them?
Did they play the game he wanted them to? The last 20 minutes,high balls to Zlat and Fillaine, it ain't exactly special football is it? Entertaining, yes, but is/was there any skill there, route one? Jurgen was only frustrated we didn't hang on for the last few minutes.
It will come.
JimmyTheRed
Klopp was probably frustrated a little bit at stuff off the pitch.
For example the Matip situation.
Mourinho said himself that we had no central defensive option in Matip or anyone else on the bench that could possibly counter the long ball so he used Fellaini instead of Rashford.
However if given that circumstance and Trent Alexander Arnold in defence you asked Klopp if he'd take a draw, he would probably have said yes.
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 2 hours, 58 minutes ago
Spurs bottled second place
They're in second place now.. will they bottle it again?
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Best side they've ever had...they bottle it they'll never ever win the Prem
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posted on 16/1/17
I think Spurs did.
Bottling it is not playing to your best when under pressure. Did Spurs play to their best at the business end of the season?
posted on 16/1/17
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
And we bottled finishing above Arsenal, but not the title race, which was implied here.
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No, you bottled the title race
posted on 16/1/17
Apart from Chelsea, the race for top 4 is arguably the best in recent memory.
Wouldn't mind seeing both Arsenal & City lose out on the CL. Although i dont think one season out of the CL may hurt either club that much.
posted on 16/1/17
Firstly, we weren't even expected to make top 4. People wrote us off in favour of the other big sides, inc. ourselves. Secondly we were never ahead of Leicester at any point and in fact quite far off the pace at the start of the year. As I say, Arsenal actually were ahead at one point around this time. What is their excuse?
posted on 16/1/17
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 6 minutes ago
Firstly, we weren't even expected to make top 4. People wrote us off in favour of the other big sides, inc. ourselves. Secondly we were never ahead of Leicester at any point and in fact quite far off the pace at the start of the year. As I say, Arsenal actually were ahead at one point around this time. What is their excuse?
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Arsenal clearly wanted to finish 4th. That's as good as 1st for them. Surely you know that by now?
posted on 16/1/17
comment by RKW (U13169)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 6 minutes ago
Firstly, we weren't even expected to make top 4. People wrote us off in favour of the other big sides, inc. ourselves. Secondly we were never ahead of Leicester at any point and in fact quite far off the pace at the start of the year. As I say, Arsenal actually were ahead at one point around this time. What is their excuse?
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Arsenal clearly wanted to finish 4th. That's as good as 1st for them. Surely you know that by now?
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Not bad enough to finish 4th, not good enough to finish first. Huge bottlejob either way.
posted on 16/1/17
I think spurs from right now looks ominous for arsenal and city.
Kane and alli are absolutely flying and they are mean at the back so that really puts them down as a side capable of challenging.
LFc will do ok I think once a few remaining issues are ironed out. having to publicly announce the matip scenario to force a response for example and figuring out how to get mane replaced v chelsea.
Arsenal look up and down, utd look better than city.
but yes. the costa thing gave hope to clubs we need to see if they really steamrollered leicester or if leicester are just muck
posted on 16/1/17
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 10 minutes ago
Firstly, we weren't even expected to make top 4. People wrote us off in favour of the other big sides, inc. ourselves. Secondly we were never ahead of Leicester at any point and in fact quite far off the pace at the start of the year. As I say, Arsenal actually were ahead at one point around this time. What is their excuse?
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If you had held on when you were 2-1 up against Arsenal you would have claimed Top spot and in the form you were in who knows.But against a 10 men arsenal you got to excited, lost discipline, dropped 2 points and that was it.
That was your chance.Beyond that you were always chasing.The results against Westbrom, Chelsea and Stoke just sealed the embarrassment.
Leicester were playing away at united the following day, a game which they drew. If you had won that game against Arsenal I think you would have won the league.
posted on 16/1/17
comment by taxidriver (U21039)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 10 minutes ago
Firstly, we weren't even expected to make top 4. People wrote us off in favour of the other big sides, inc. ourselves. Secondly we were never ahead of Leicester at any point and in fact quite far off the pace at the start of the year. As I say, Arsenal actually were ahead at one point around this time. What is their excuse?
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If you had held on when you were 2-1 up against Arsenal you would have claimed Top spot and in the form you were in who knows.But against a 10 men arsenal you got to excited, lost discipline, dropped 2 points and that was it.
That was your chance.Beyond that you were always chasing.The results against Westbrom, Chelsea and Stoke just sealed the embarrassment.
Leicester were playing away at united the following day, a game which they drew. If you had won that game against Arsenal I think you would have won the league.
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You've clearly got your facts mixed up. Leicester were playing Watford with their game in hand, which they won. meaning we'd have only temporarily been on top of the league.
However Arsenal actually were top of the league for almost a month, and lost their position after losing to 10th place Chelsea at home.
posted on 16/1/17
The only way we will get in the top four is if we win our away games against the teams above us.
posted on 16/1/17
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 hours, 16 minutes ago
The only way we will get in the top four is if we win our away games against the teams above us.
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from what I've seen of the top 6 v the rest that seems plausible.
Arsenal and city need to implode to let you catch up. they re always capable of it though.
posted on 16/1/17
comment by Robbing_Hoody (U6374)
posted 5 hours, 22 minutes ago
I think Spurs did.
Bottling it is not playing to your best when under pressure. Did Spurs play to their best at the business end of the season?
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Going into the Chelsea game last April, a must win game, our form from the turn of the year had been P14, W10, D3 L1. That aint the form of bottlers, it's actually the form of a team thrusting themselves into contention....as it was we drew at The Bridge. No disgrace there either, especially as it was the only half of football all season that CFC decided to play to their very best. But we were never at the top of the league, always playing catchup and normally always playing 2nd. Once the title chance was gone, our spirit was broken, hence losses in the last 2 games
I can understand why people dont take Spurs' threat seriously, based on history. I just hope we can wipe the smile off their faces sometime in the future.
But really Arsenal are the bottlers here. In a season when 80 points wins them the league the mustered their lowest total in years. They have in the past achieved 79 pts to end 4th, so are well capable. In a season when Utd, City and Chelsea all fall away, its Arsenals title to lose. They never got close to it.
posted on 16/1/17
Spurs bottled second place
They're in second place now.. will they bottle it again?
posted on 16/1/17
Spurs are a fantastic side who deserve to be where they are. But, by the same token, they can be really tempremental. If offered, like us, they would take a top four slot now.
But returning to yesterday's game, who do you think was the more happy after the game, Jurgen or Maureen? Maureen was going mental at times like I've never seen him before. You look at Martial, Pogba, Mkitayrian at what, combined, £150M+, and did he get any value for money out of them?
Did they play the game he wanted them to? The last 20 minutes,high balls to Zlat and Fillaine, it ain't exactly special football is it? Entertaining, yes, but is/was there any skill there, route one? Jurgen was only frustrated we didn't hang on for the last few minutes.
It will come.
JimmyTheRed
posted on 16/1/17
Klopp was probably frustrated a little bit at stuff off the pitch.
For example the Matip situation.
Mourinho said himself that we had no central defensive option in Matip or anyone else on the bench that could possibly counter the long ball so he used Fellaini instead of Rashford.
However if given that circumstance and Trent Alexander Arnold in defence you asked Klopp if he'd take a draw, he would probably have said yes.
posted on 16/1/17
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 2 hours, 58 minutes ago
Spurs bottled second place
They're in second place now.. will they bottle it again?
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Best side they've ever had...they bottle it they'll never ever win the Prem
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