Yep. You have to wonder why when he can create and control everything, he would do that. Bit of a botched effort on his part.
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 1 day, 23 hours ago
comment by redmisty (U7556)
posted 18 minutes ago
A set of behaviours based on a rule book, if you aren't following the rule book then you aren't practising the religion.
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In your opinion! They obviously believe they are following the rule book. They just interpret the rules differently.
"This is where the argument of interpretation comes into the equation and it's usually something some people hide behind"
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Yes. How convenient.
"People seem to think anything and everything can be interpreted differently when in actual fact people are most likely manipulating text deliberately "
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In your opinion. They may think theirs is the correct interpretation and who are you to say they are wrong?
" the Quran it self says not to dwell on the ambiguous verses."
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How convenient. Why include them then?
" but none knows its hidden meanings save Allaah"
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How convenient.
"Listening to an imam with an agenda and never studying the Quran leads to confusion."
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Which just proves that religion is about how people behave and not what is written in some old book.
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What a pathetic rebutall, everything seems to be convenient because you disagree with it.
It's a fact those verses are clear as day, people either manipulate it deliberately or don't apply historical context and this happens repeatedly with the terrorism argument.
You asked me if I'd been to India, no haven't Have you studied Islam for all your life, interacted with Islamic communities all of your life, or read the Quran in Arabic?
You are going on about Islam like you understand anything about it.
Your opinion that religion is separate from the holy book which dictates religious practise is a ridiculous one!
Why did God include the ambiguous verses? Are you trying to go off tangent? What has that got to do with God commanded Muslims to obey the clear ones.
You have some how decided in your own arrogance that the verses talking about secs are interpritable to mean multiple things.
Have you read these verses? Studied them?
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1) Where did I disagree with anything?
2) Why should I have studied the Quran in Arabic in order to state my opinion that all religions are sexually repressed to some extent?
3) When did I "go on about Islam" in any way, shape or form? I never even mentioned it - you brought it up.
4) I never said that "religion is separate from the holy book". What I said is that religion is practised according to how people INTERPRET the book, that's all.
5) And you think this makes ME arrogant? Surely you are the arrogant one who thinks that YOUR interpretation is the only one that matters.
As the expression goes, belief is so often the death of reason. You have proved this to be true - although in your case it is as much down to your sheer stupidity.
comment by Galvs...Friend of Reason (U10415)
posted 4 minutes ago
Not to mention he made us atheists......bit of a wum that
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If you knew religious texts you would know what he says about that
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comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 3 minutes ago
Yep. You have to wonder why when he can create and control everything, he would do that. Bit of a botched effort on his part.
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Not really even the most messed up translations over the years have spoken about freewill and the reason for making us
comment by Galvs...Friend of Reason (U10415)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 2 minutes ago
Yep. You have to wonder why when he can create and control everything, he would do that. Bit of a botched effort on his part.
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Well I'm not sure if Zlat's one does interfere. I bow to his superior knowledge on it....
Some others Gods DO interfere though...in everywhere and everything......
I'd tend to side with Zlat's one here
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Interferes how?
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comment by Galvs...Friend of Reason (U10415)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 2 minutes ago
Yep. You have to wonder why when he can create and control everything, he would do that. Bit of a botched effort on his part.
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Well I'm not sure if Zlat's one does interfere. I bow to his superior knowledge on it....
Some others Gods DO interfere though...in everywhere and everything......
I'd tend to side with Zlat's one here
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Since there are so many Gods already it shouldn't really matter if you personalise your own. I know if I was to have a God it would be one that doesn't wum at all.
comment by Zlatanariyan (U19849)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 3 minutes ago
Yep. You have to wonder why when he can create and control everything, he would do that. Bit of a botched effort on his part.
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Not really even the most messed up translations over the years have spoken about freewill and the reason for making us
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Yeah but the atheists he created would be going to hell right? Why not just create someone whose path isn't heading towards hell from the start?
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comment by Galvs...Friend of Reason (U10415)
posted 8 minutes ago
Has an actual hand in the world and its events,people and places.....? What did you think I meant?
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Not how my religion explains it. Just clarifying
Things would be a lot easier if religions accepted that there are a number of Gods out there, that are all equally good and get along with each other.
To think the ancient Greeks had it right, and how long ago was that again?
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Zlatanariyan (U19849)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 3 minutes ago
Yep. You have to wonder why when he can create and control everything, he would do that. Bit of a botched effort on his part.
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Not really even the most messed up translations over the years have spoken about freewill and the reason for making us
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Yeah but the atheists he created would be going to hell right? Why not just create someone whose path isn't heading towards hell from the start?
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It was the whole purpose of creation
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted less than a minute ago
Things would be a lot easier if religions accepted that there are a number of Gods out there, that are all equally good and get along with each other.
To think the ancient Greeks had it right, and how long ago was that again?
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There are not a number of Gods if you look into it
comment by Zlatanariyan (U19849)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted less than a minute ago
Things would be a lot easier if religions accepted that there are a number of Gods out there, that are all equally good and get along with each other.
To think the ancient Greeks had it right, and how long ago was that again?
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There are not a number of Gods if you look into it
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There are not a number of Gods if you are religious, so I don't qualify.
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comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Zlatanariyan (U19849)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted less than a minute ago
Things would be a lot easier if religions accepted that there are a number of Gods out there, that are all equally good and get along with each other.
To think the ancient Greeks had it right, and how long ago was that again?
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There are not a number of Gods if you look into it
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There are not a number of Gods if you are religious, so I don't qualify.
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Athiesm is a religion
Atheism is not a religion. It is the complete opposite i.e. not believing in a super heavenly entity.
comment by Galvs...Friend of Reason (U10415)
posted less than a minute ago
Isn't Islam the 'Last Word' from our creator?
What were all the others that preceded it? practice?
Anyway, peace
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Well if you read what Jesus said and what Muhammad said they were bringing people back to the one God as people had changes things
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted less than a minute ago
Atheism is not a religion. It is the complete opposite i.e. not believing in a super heavenly entity.
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Religion isn't about God. Its about following an ideology
Even democracy is a religion
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Yep. You have to wonder why when he can create and control everything, he would do that. Bit of a botched effort on his part.
posted on 3/2/17
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 1 day, 23 hours ago
comment by redmisty (U7556)
posted 18 minutes ago
A set of behaviours based on a rule book, if you aren't following the rule book then you aren't practising the religion.
___________________
In your opinion! They obviously believe they are following the rule book. They just interpret the rules differently.
"This is where the argument of interpretation comes into the equation and it's usually something some people hide behind"
________________
Yes. How convenient.
"People seem to think anything and everything can be interpreted differently when in actual fact people are most likely manipulating text deliberately "
______________
In your opinion. They may think theirs is the correct interpretation and who are you to say they are wrong?
" the Quran it self says not to dwell on the ambiguous verses."
_______________
How convenient. Why include them then?
" but none knows its hidden meanings save Allaah"
_______________
How convenient.
"Listening to an imam with an agenda and never studying the Quran leads to confusion."
_______________
Which just proves that religion is about how people behave and not what is written in some old book.
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What a pathetic rebutall, everything seems to be convenient because you disagree with it.
It's a fact those verses are clear as day, people either manipulate it deliberately or don't apply historical context and this happens repeatedly with the terrorism argument.
You asked me if I'd been to India, no haven't Have you studied Islam for all your life, interacted with Islamic communities all of your life, or read the Quran in Arabic?
You are going on about Islam like you understand anything about it.
Your opinion that religion is separate from the holy book which dictates religious practise is a ridiculous one!
Why did God include the ambiguous verses? Are you trying to go off tangent? What has that got to do with God commanded Muslims to obey the clear ones.
You have some how decided in your own arrogance that the verses talking about secs are interpritable to mean multiple things.
Have you read these verses? Studied them?
___________________
1) Where did I disagree with anything?
2) Why should I have studied the Quran in Arabic in order to state my opinion that all religions are sexually repressed to some extent?
3) When did I "go on about Islam" in any way, shape or form? I never even mentioned it - you brought it up.
4) I never said that "religion is separate from the holy book". What I said is that religion is practised according to how people INTERPRET the book, that's all.
5) And you think this makes ME arrogant? Surely you are the arrogant one who thinks that YOUR interpretation is the only one that matters.
As the expression goes, belief is so often the death of reason. You have proved this to be true - although in your case it is as much down to your sheer stupidity.
posted on 3/2/17
comment by Galvs...Friend of Reason (U10415)
posted 4 minutes ago
Not to mention he made us atheists......bit of a wum that
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If you knew religious texts you would know what he says about that
posted on 3/2/17
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posted on 3/2/17
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 3 minutes ago
Yep. You have to wonder why when he can create and control everything, he would do that. Bit of a botched effort on his part.
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Not really even the most messed up translations over the years have spoken about freewill and the reason for making us
posted on 3/2/17
comment by Galvs...Friend of Reason (U10415)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 2 minutes ago
Yep. You have to wonder why when he can create and control everything, he would do that. Bit of a botched effort on his part.
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Well I'm not sure if Zlat's one does interfere. I bow to his superior knowledge on it....
Some others Gods DO interfere though...in everywhere and everything......
I'd tend to side with Zlat's one here
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Interferes how?
posted on 3/2/17
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posted on 3/2/17
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posted on 3/2/17
comment by Galvs...Friend of Reason (U10415)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 2 minutes ago
Yep. You have to wonder why when he can create and control everything, he would do that. Bit of a botched effort on his part.
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Well I'm not sure if Zlat's one does interfere. I bow to his superior knowledge on it....
Some others Gods DO interfere though...in everywhere and everything......
I'd tend to side with Zlat's one here
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Since there are so many Gods already it shouldn't really matter if you personalise your own. I know if I was to have a God it would be one that doesn't wum at all.
posted on 3/2/17
comment by Zlatanariyan (U19849)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 3 minutes ago
Yep. You have to wonder why when he can create and control everything, he would do that. Bit of a botched effort on his part.
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Not really even the most messed up translations over the years have spoken about freewill and the reason for making us
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Yeah but the atheists he created would be going to hell right? Why not just create someone whose path isn't heading towards hell from the start?
posted on 3/2/17
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posted on 3/2/17
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posted on 3/2/17
comment by Galvs...Friend of Reason (U10415)
posted 8 minutes ago
Has an actual hand in the world and its events,people and places.....? What did you think I meant?
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Not how my religion explains it. Just clarifying
posted on 3/2/17
Things would be a lot easier if religions accepted that there are a number of Gods out there, that are all equally good and get along with each other.
To think the ancient Greeks had it right, and how long ago was that again?
posted on 3/2/17
Cheerio Galv.
posted on 3/2/17
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Zlatanariyan (U19849)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 3 minutes ago
Yep. You have to wonder why when he can create and control everything, he would do that. Bit of a botched effort on his part.
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Not really even the most messed up translations over the years have spoken about freewill and the reason for making us
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Yeah but the atheists he created would be going to hell right? Why not just create someone whose path isn't heading towards hell from the start?
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It was the whole purpose of creation
posted on 3/2/17
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted less than a minute ago
Things would be a lot easier if religions accepted that there are a number of Gods out there, that are all equally good and get along with each other.
To think the ancient Greeks had it right, and how long ago was that again?
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There are not a number of Gods if you look into it
posted on 3/2/17
comment by Zlatanariyan (U19849)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted less than a minute ago
Things would be a lot easier if religions accepted that there are a number of Gods out there, that are all equally good and get along with each other.
To think the ancient Greeks had it right, and how long ago was that again?
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There are not a number of Gods if you look into it
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There are not a number of Gods if you are religious, so I don't qualify.
posted on 3/2/17
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posted on 3/2/17
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Zlatanariyan (U19849)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted less than a minute ago
Things would be a lot easier if religions accepted that there are a number of Gods out there, that are all equally good and get along with each other.
To think the ancient Greeks had it right, and how long ago was that again?
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There are not a number of Gods if you look into it
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There are not a number of Gods if you are religious, so I don't qualify.
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Athiesm is a religion
posted on 3/2/17
Atheism is not a religion. It is the complete opposite i.e. not believing in a super heavenly entity.
posted on 3/2/17
comment by Galvs...Friend of Reason (U10415)
posted less than a minute ago
Isn't Islam the 'Last Word' from our creator?
What were all the others that preceded it? practice?
Anyway, peace
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Well if you read what Jesus said and what Muhammad said they were bringing people back to the one God as people had changes things
posted on 3/2/17
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted less than a minute ago
Atheism is not a religion. It is the complete opposite i.e. not believing in a super heavenly entity.
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Religion isn't about God. Its about following an ideology
Even democracy is a religion
posted on 3/2/17
Anyway, out too. Bye!
posted on 3/2/17
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