comment by Sell Ramsey and Wilshere. Buy Verratti and Rabiot. #Simple (U10012)
posted 10 minutes ago
I follow the BBC news page on Facebook. The comments section, (over the last couple of years) now have a 'Daily Mail' feel to it.
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What's wrong with following the BBC news page on..... you know, the BBC website?!
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I do. Just find (especially Twitter) it’s far handier scrolling through a selection of different news feeds. Especially for US/European news.

comment by Galvs...Friend of Reason. (U10415)
posted 17 minutes ago
You wanna say that again, pal
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Why... I... otta....

comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 46 minutes ago
I think social media has a lot to answer for. Too many keyboard warriors!
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Me and you, outside nawwww😎

comment by Sell Ramsey and Wilshere. Buy Verratti and Rabiot. #Simple (U10012)
posted 15 minutes ago
I follow the BBC news page on Facebook. The comments section, (over the last couple of years) now have a 'Daily Mail' feel to it.
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What's wrong with following the BBC news page on..... you know, the BBC website?!
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bbc are liberal left on news, whilst trying to be neutral!

By their own admission.

Many news items now on lgbt minority issues and gender, which is fair enough, but often not News.

Sky and bbc wept brexit and the US election results.

comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by itsonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 hour, 31 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 6 minutes ago
I follow the BBC news page on Facebook. The comments section, (over the last couple of years) now have a 'Daily Mail' feel to it.

I remember distinctly, after the horrific picture of that Syrian boy washed up on a beach in Turkey was released, many comments, (from seemingly ordinary Brits) were abhorrent. Vile stuff. Similar comments relating to that boy in the back of the Syrian ambulance.

Depressing how dehumanised some people have become.
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The Bush administration still has a lot to answer for, imo.

There's been a growing undercurrent of unabashed disdain for human rights stemming from the policies and attitudes that allowed things like Bagram, Abu Ghraib or Guantanamo to happen.


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News coverage in Britain should show graphic images like the ones you see on Al Jazeera.

Watching a family member picking the dismembered body of a baby and crying over it might make people think differently.

I can't get desensitised to that.
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Alright Kung fu bud.

Guan tan was a reaction to global islamist extremism, and although morally debatable if you had a neo natzi equivalent to global jihadi militant numbers, human rights go down the priority list.

Look how extreme distorted islamism has ruined south Sudan, Yemen, and somalia right now, along with Iraq,,Libya,Syria, Afghanistan.
The west is not to blame for the ills in Muslim and Arab affairs.

I read many comments from people stating the complete opposite in regard to the BBC.

Much depends on the journalist. As the BBC charter allows editorial opinion. But in regard to reporting the ‘news’ they’re fairly dependable.

In that being a public broadcaster they are subject to greater scrutiny than independent news broadcasters.

comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 16 minutes ago
I read many comments from people stating the complete opposite in regard to the BBC.

Much depends on the journalist. As the BBC charter allows editorial opinion. But in regard to reporting the ‘news’ they’re fairly dependable.

In that being a public broadcaster they are subject to greater scrutiny than independent news broadcasters.
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BBC Radio Ulster TalkBack messed up letting Alliance voters ask easy questions for their candidate, and shiners get an easy ride,,IMO.Michelle O'Neill attends an aye are event last week, after getting her new job how exactly??.....bbc media run away, but hunt down DUP contrast.

If I were to only get the news from one source, I'd probably choose the BBC since they are the most reliable overall imo.
It's worth getting news from several sources though. It's good to also hear all sides of the argument. By doing so, you can quickly notice the flaws in both the right and the left wing of politics.

comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 16 minutes ago
I read many comments from people stating the complete opposite in regard to the BBC.

Much depends on the journalist. As the BBC charter allows editorial opinion. But in regard to reporting the ‘news’ they’re fairly dependable.

In that being a public broadcaster they are subject to greater scrutiny than independent news broadcasters.
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BBC Radio Ulster TalkBack messed up letting Alliance voters ask easy questions for their candidate, and shiners get an easy ride,,IMO.Michelle O'Neill attends an aye are event last week, after getting her new job how exactly??.....bbc media run away, but hunt down DUP contrast.
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DUP deserve whatever they get. An embarrassment to the province, and have wasted hundreds of thousands of tax payers money.

Did you hear about them accepting over a quarter of a million pounds in 'dark money' to back Brexit. I thought it was strange that they were the only local party to do back Brexit. Now we know why. £££

https://www.opendemocracy.net/uk/peter-geoghegan-adam-ramsay/you-aren-t-allowed-to-know-who-paid-for-key-leave-campaign-adverts

When asked who gave them the money, Foster refused to say. And "couldn't remember" how much it was.

Thankfully there's a motion in place for Brokenshire to publically release their donor.

comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 16 minutes ago
I read many comments from people stating the complete opposite in regard to the BBC.

Much depends on the journalist. As the BBC charter allows editorial opinion. But in regard to reporting the ‘news’ they’re fairly dependable.

In that being a public broadcaster they are subject to greater scrutiny than independent news broadcasters.
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BBC Radio Ulster TalkBack messed up letting Alliance voters ask easy questions for their candidate, and shiners get an easy ride,,IMO.Michelle O'Neill attends an aye are event last week, after getting her new job how exactly??.....bbc media run away, but hunt down DUP contrast.
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DUP deserve whatever they get. An embarrassment to the province, and have wasted hundreds of thousands of tax payers money.

Did you hear about them accepting over a quarter of a million pounds in 'dark money' to back Brexit. I thought it was strange that they were the only local party to do back Brexit. Now we know why. £££

https://www.opendemocracy.net/uk/peter-geoghegan-adam-ramsay/you-aren-t-allowed-to-know-who-paid-for-key-leave-campaign-adverts

When asked who gave them the money, Foster refused to say. And "couldn't remember" how much it was.

Thankfully there's a motion in place for Brokenshire to publically release their donor.
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Scrutiny for the DUP....fine.

Applied to Alliance, SF too.
All am saying, and northern bank robbery plus crime funds SF, but hey, who cares about the detail in relation to our wee govt?😇😇😇😇😇😇😇

TBAB

Why, regardless of topic do you insist on 'whataboutery'

The Northern Bank robbery was in 2004. The PSNI found no trace of POC to SF. Who were also independently audited.

I'm not a fan of SF by any stretch of the imagination BTW.

comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 3 hours, 15 minutes ago

Guan tan was a reaction to global islamist extremism, and although morally debatable if you had a neo natzi equivalent to global jihadi militant numbers, human rights go down the priority list.

Look how extreme distorted islamism has ruined south Sudan, Yemen, and somalia right now, along with Iraq,,Libya,Syria, Afghanistan.
The west is not to blame for the ills in Muslim and Arab affairs.
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Pure speculation re natsi militant numbers, versus the reality of government-sancionted torture on behalf of the self-proclaimed representatives of the free world.

Extremist terrorism is a blight, no questioning that. But "not to blame"? We both know our governments have played a significant role in more ways than one.

But let's pretend we haven't because that vindicates our decision to torture people, innocent or otherwise.

comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 3 hours, 34 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by itsonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 hour, 31 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 6 minutes ago
I follow the BBC news page on Facebook. The comments section, (over the last couple of years) now have a 'Daily Mail' feel to it.

I remember distinctly, after the horrific picture of that Syrian boy washed up on a beach in Turkey was released, many comments, (from seemingly ordinary Brits) were abhorrent. Vile stuff. Similar comments relating to that boy in the back of the Syrian ambulance.

Depressing how dehumanised some people have become.
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The Bush administration still has a lot to answer for, imo.

There's been a growing undercurrent of unabashed disdain for human rights stemming from the policies and attitudes that allowed things like Bagram, Abu Ghraib or Guantanamo to happen.


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News coverage in Britain should show graphic images like the ones you see on Al Jazeera.

Watching a family member picking the dismembered body of a baby and crying over it might make people think differently.

I can't get desensitised to that.
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Alright Kung fu bud.

Guan tan was a reaction to global islamist extremism, and although morally debatable if you had a neo natzi equivalent to global jihadi militant numbers, human rights go down the priority list.

Look how extreme distorted islamism has ruined south Sudan, Yemen, and somalia right now, along with Iraq,,Libya,Syria, Afghanistan.
The west is not to blame for the ills in Muslim and Arab affairs.
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TBAB

The West had a huge say in the situation in the Middle East. and has done for the best part of half a century. It's long but I suggest you read this.

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/feb/16/trump-dangerous-delusions-islam-muslims-liberalism

Alright Kung fu bud.

Guan tan was a reaction to global islamist extremism, and although morally debatable if you had a neo natzi equivalent to global jihadi militant numbers, human rights go down the priority list.

Look how extreme distorted islamism has ruined south Sudan, Yemen, and somalia right now, along with Iraq,,Libya,Syria, Afghanistan.
The west is not to blame for the ills in Muslim and Arab affairs.

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What does Islamist mean?

The word doesn't exist in Arabic, it's a divisive made up word from this part of the world.

Guantanamo is a monstrosity and any attempt to rationalise it is madness.

Terrorism is a reaction to the constant bombardment and slaughter of the people in the Middle East which has been proven time and time again. Have you ever seen my try and attempt to rationalise terrorism to legitimise it though?

The Muslim world has never been this fragmented or in conflict for it's entire 1400 year old history until the destruction of the Ottoman Empire.

American Indians demonstrating against illegal immigrants damaging their water supply.

https://instagram.com/p/BQ18oy4gMOM/

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comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 47 minutes ago
Alright Kung fu bud.

Guan tan was a reaction to global islamist extremism, and although morally debatable if you had a neo natzi equivalent to global jihadi militant numbers, human rights go down the priority list.

Look how extreme distorted islamism has ruined south Sudan, Yemen, and somalia right now, along with Iraq,,Libya,Syria, Afghanistan.
The west is not to blame for the ills in Muslim and Arab affairs.

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What does Islamist mean?

The word doesn't exist in Arabic, it's a divisive made up word from this part of the world.

Guantanamo is a monstrosity and any attempt to rationalise it is madness.

Terrorism is a reaction to the constant bombardment and slaughter of the people in the Middle East which has been proven time and time again. Have you ever seen my try and attempt to rationalise terrorism to legitimise it though?

The Muslim world has never been this fragmented or in conflict for it's entire 1400 year old history until the destruction of the Ottoman Empire.
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*Some terrorism is a reaction to the constant bombardment and slaughter of the people in the Middle East.

comment by rossobianchi - Got_Nameback (U17054)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 47 minutes ago
Alright Kung fu bud.

Guan tan was a reaction to global islamist extremism, and although morally debatable if you had a neo natzi equivalent to global jihadi militant numbers, human rights go down the priority list.

Look how extreme distorted islamism has ruined south Sudan, Yemen, and somalia right now, along with Iraq,,Libya,Syria, Afghanistan.
The west is not to blame for the ills in Muslim and Arab affairs.

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What does Islamist mean?

The word doesn't exist in Arabic, it's a divisive made up word from this part of the world.

Guantanamo is a monstrosity and any attempt to rationalise it is madness.

Terrorism is a reaction to the constant bombardment and slaughter of the people in the Middle East which has been proven time and time again. Have you ever seen my try and attempt to rationalise terrorism to legitimise it though?

The Muslim world has never been this fragmented or in conflict for it's entire 1400 year old history until the destruction of the Ottoman Empire.
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*Some terrorism is a reaction to the constant bombardment and slaughter of the people in the Middle East.
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I'm talking about Terrorism by Muslims in America and Britain.

What other primary reasons are there?

comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 1 hour ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 16 minutes ago
American Indians demonstrating against illegal immigrants damaging their water supply.

https://instagram.com/p/BQ18oy4gMOM/



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Is it their land? Is land owned by a group if they get their first? If so, all land is owned by Africans as we all originate from Africa, ergo, all land is ours.

This division of land only works if you can appoint a specific point in time, unfortunately we can not... or can you?
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The Indians had created a nation, they already had marked out territories like America has now.

If immigration without permission is acknowledged as illegal now in America, it should be acknowledged as illegal when Europeans settled there as well.

I wish people brought into the all land is ours things, instead we have nationalism.

comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 21 minutes ago
Alright Kung fu bud.

Guan tan was a reaction to global islamist extremism, and although morally debatable if you had a neo natzi equivalent to global jihadi militant numbers, human rights go down the priority list.

Look how extreme distorted islamism has ruined south Sudan, Yemen, and somalia right now, along with Iraq,,Libya,Syria, Afghanistan.
The west is not to blame for the ills in Muslim and Arab affairs.

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What does Islamist mean?

The word doesn't exist in Arabic, it's a divisive made up word from this part of the world.

Guantanamo is a monstrosity and any attempt to rationalise it is madness.

Terrorism is a reaction to the constant bombardment and slaughter of the people in the Middle East which has been proven time and time again. Have you ever seen my try and attempt to rationalise terrorism to legitimise it though?

The Muslim world has never been this fragmented or in conflict for it's entire 1400 year old history until the destruction of the Ottoman Empire.
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I don't think we will agree on this, but I like debating with you anyway

Yes, the Middle East is a mess, but the history of the Middle East is a mess. Throughout history, whether it is before the Prophet or after, bloodshed has happened in the Middle East. Islam didn't spread throughout the area with flowers and lollipops.

I am in no way absolving the 'West's' involvement, but the Arabs themselves are to blame also. The division in Islam with regard to Sunni, Shai, et al, has a murky past filled with anger.

I think where we should be focusing our energies is on how to fix it. Or should I say how it can be fixed, so as not to give the role to anyone in particular.
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I'm sorry mate but the Sunni/Shia conflict is ridiculously overstated.

The Ottomans (sunnis) and Safavid (Shias) Empire lived side by side in peace and intermarried for hundreds of years in a time this planet was supposed to be less civilised.

I don't identify as any sect but certain practises like the way I pray marks me out as a Sunni. I visited Iran and I stood out, I had no trouble. You even see Orthodox Jews walking the streets there.

The division became more violent when borders drawn through the middle of ethnic and religious communities in the Middle East and distabalisation through war.

As far as Muslim expansionism goes, some of it was hideous and brutal and some of it was a reaction to empires like the Persians who wanted to exterminate Muslims.

My point is that even through those years Muslims have never been so divided.

Oh and in order to fix it all we need to do is keep our military within our own borders and send aid to rebuild what we destroyed.

After that stop funding the Saudis and the Israelis and we'll never have to worry about somebody bombing the tube again.

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