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posted on 24/2/17

Wait, in what ways are they treating the remaining Native Americans disgustingly? This is the first I've heard this in terms of current events.

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Incredible post Dave

If everyone had had experiences like those you've described I firmly believe we'd live in a quite different world.

posted on 24/2/17

And talk of Hiroshima on a day that Trump is back in the news as a result of his comments on nuclear weapons.

Some of his latest words:

"It would be wonderful, a dream would be that no country would have nukes, but if countries are going to have nukes, we're going to be at the top of the pack."

To add to:

"The United States must greatly strengthen and expand its nuclear capability until such time as the world comes to its senses regarding nukes."

Which semantically decomposed means:

1. A world without nukes is a better place
2. Whilst nukes exist, the US should have the largest number
3. Creating/maintaining stockpiles of nuclear weapons is senseless

Given that he acknowledges (correctly) 1. and 3., how can he believe that 2. is a coherent policy?! How can 'greatly strengthening and expanding' nuclear capability support non-proliferation and disarmament?

It's facking insane. That policy is inarguably contradictory. He's either facking thick or he gives not a sheet about disarmament and he's lying. Unfortunately, I think the answer is the first of the two.

How in the hell was this man elected?

posted on 24/2/17

It makes perfect sense that a country, who never wishes to use nuclear weapons, keep those countries who like to threaten to use nuclear weapons or actually want to use them,in fear of being obliterated, if they ever do so
If you don't have the most nuclear weapons then you cant do that, as you wont be taken seriously,its not contradictory in the slightest

posted on 24/2/17

comment by jedward belmont (U3109)
posted 6 minutes ago
It makes perfect sense that a country, who never wishes to use nuclear weapons, keep those countries who like to threaten to use nuclear weapons or actually want to use them,in fear of being obliterated, if they ever do so
If you don't have the most nuclear weapons then you cant do that, as you wont be taken seriously,its not contradictory in the slightest


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I think the US is currently pretty well stocked in nuclear weapons:

https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/Nuclearweaponswhohaswhat

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comment by jedward belmont (U3109)
posted 21 minutes ago
It makes perfect sense that a country, who never wishes to use nuclear weapons, keep those countries who like to threaten to use nuclear weapons or actually want to use them,in fear of being obliterated, if they ever do so
If you don't have the most nuclear weapons then you cant do that, as you wont be taken seriously,its not contradictory in the slightest


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Do you think the US has never threatened to use nuclear weapons?

And they already have enough nuclear weapons to completely level every single million city on earth. Every one.

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Incredible post Dave

If everyone had had experiences like those you've described I firmly believe we'd live in a quite different world.
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Not Japanese myself but we have Korean and Chinese relatives in our family and the older folks for a long time, would never sympathize for the Japanese after what happened prior to WWII.

Point is, war sucks and we should be lucky that we are not on the front lines of anything right now.

All, we are almost on page 100!

posted on 24/2/17

My parents faced starvation during the Spanish Civil War.

Madrid was under siege for 2 1/2 years, and neither of their families had connections, which was the main means of obtaining food.

My dad was the eldest of a large family. Aged 12, he and his 10-year-old brother would escape the city as stowaways on military trains to steal whatever food they could in the countryside.

My mum remembers stealing fishbones off the neighbour's cat. They'd use them to make a watery soup to feed four. 'Anything to fool the stomach for a while' she'd say.

Almost every Spaniard from their generation and those who grew up in the immediate post-war years experienced hunger.

To this day, my mum will seriously admonish you if she sees you trying to sweep a bit of bread off the plate into the bin. "Bread is never thrown away in this house; it's a sin."

posted on 24/2/17

comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 1 hour, 42 minutes ago
Japan suffered at the end of the war but they equally did some horrible things like Nanking at the end of 1937.
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I've been Nanking pretty constantly since 1994.

Does that make me a bad person?

posted on 24/2/17

p.s. Before any of you start, the title of the thread is 'Anything Goes Politics Edition'...

posted on 24/2/17

Should I rename this to: Anything goes provided you come in with an open mind

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posted on 25/2/17

Nah, it would be WWIII under trump, sorry to disappoint you

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posted on 25/2/17

Is anyone else finding this more and more surreal?

The rhetoric coming from the White House now is sounding more and more like that of a tin pot dictatorship, and it would appear that many of the policy pledges many people - including some Trump supporters - dismissed as campaign trail stunts, or at least exaggerations, are being progressed: the Muslim majority states immigration ban, the war on the mainstream media, the wall, and the commitment to an unprecedented armament of the state, to name four obvious ones.

I'd be interested to hear from those in the States about their thoughts on the Reps plan to repeal much of Obamacare before a ready replacement is in place, particularly given the new report that argues the US now sits at the bottom of the pile in the developed world on health outcomes across the population.

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