comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 29 seconds ago
The EU do not legislate for the UK.
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It won't soon, that is for sure.
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If the UK wishes to continue to export to it's largest trading partner, goods and services will have to conform to EU regulations.
Which includes consumer, environmental, governance requirements etc. So without having a say on EU statute, the UK will have to continue to adhere to EU regulations.
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Doesn't that sound more limiting than it actually is?
Did i read democracy is still rife.
"Politics is the Entertainment division of the military-industrial complex.” - Frank Zappa.
Doesn't that sound more limiting than it actually is?
.........................
It is just more bluster from a remainer. The UK and the EU will come to some compromises on both sides. No one will get it all there own way.
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 minute ago
If the UK wishes to continue to export to it's largest trading partner, goods and services will have to conform to EU regulations.
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No one has said it won't.
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Legislation is not fixed. It changes and is amended regularly.
So for example if the EU27 vote to change environmental/pollution laws, say for agriculture. UK farmers/fisheries etc will have to adhere to the changes.
But before the products can be exported, the UK government will firstly need to implement legislation that covers EU requirements. The EU in turn will have to recognise these changes.
This will be replicated in every UK industry.
Legislation is not fixed. It changes and is amended regularly.
...............
No one has said it is fixed.
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 minutes ago
Doesn't that sound more limiting than it actually is?
.........................
It is just more bluster from a remainer. The UK and the EU will come to some compromises on both sides. No one will get it all there own way.
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Google is your friend. If you don't believe me look at the WTO, and EU commission websites.
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 minutes ago
Doesn't that sound more limiting than it actually is?
.........................
It is just more bluster from a remainer. The UK and the EU will come to some compromises on both sides. No one will get it all there own way.
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We don't have many trump cards to play though, so we will make far more comprimises than any EU country will for us.
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 minute ago
Legislation is not fixed. It changes and is amended regularly.
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No one has said it is fixed.
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You don't need to say this every time someone brings up a new point!
You don't need to say this every time someone brings up a new point!
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Don't bring up a new point by suggesting someone has said something they have not then.
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comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - 2017 joy squids (U2958)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 minutes ago
Doesn't that sound more limiting than it actually is?
.........................
It is just more bluster from a remainer. The UK and the EU will come to some compromises on both sides. No one will get it all there own way.
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We don't have many trump cards to play though, so we will make far more comprimises than any EU country will for us.
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Also worth noting the timeframe (2yrs) to leave is not in anyway long enough. The Italian and Scottish diplomats who wrote the Lisbon treaty did so to punish a 'rogue state' (in cases of a coup etc)
Maybe a bit of arrogance on the EU's part but they didn't think a member would ever willingly want to leave.
Maybe a bit of arrogance on the EU's part but they didn't think a member would ever willingly want to leave.
...........................
Total arrogance then. I suspect that in the next few years will might see a few more members wanting to leave.
All eyes on the Dutch elections coming up in a few weeks time.
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 minute ago
Maybe a bit of arrogance on the EU's part but they didn't think a member would ever willingly want to leave.
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Total arrogance then. I suspect that in the next few years will might see a few more members wanting to leave.
All eyes on the Dutch elections coming up in a few weeks time.
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With Trump, and the E27, (observing the mess the UK is in) has galvanised the EU. Even Le Penn, has since moved to wanting EU reforms, rather than leaving.
Across the EU there seems to be a feeling of protectionism, both at local government level (as you noted pro EU parties under threat) and from the EU parliament.
Regardless of how the EU member's vote, the UK need the bloc to be successful. Simply as our economy relies on maintaining current trading relationships.
Regardless of how the EU member's vote, the UK need the bloc to be successful. Simply as our economy relies on maintaining current trading relationships.
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This
But denying climate change, being pro life, bellittling women etc is something that I hoped was not a UK issue.
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None of this has anything to do with Brexit, as you well know.
Why tar 52% of the population of this country with the same brush as a minority of idiots whose comments you read on a Daily Mail discussion thread?
Do you honestly believe that's logical or are you just still bitter about the referendum result?
comment by Coutinho's Happy Feet (U18971)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
Just another example of a leave voter demonstrating a complete lack of understanding for what they actually voted for.
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Doesn't apply to all of them by any stretch. Some of my family voted out and immigration wasn't a huge concern for them. It was more to do with Brussels and the stupid legislation. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
You do cringe when you hear stories about African and Asian people being told to go back home now after Brexit and they have to inform the idiots that their countries of birth aren't EU ones.
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Ironically UK migration will significantly increase as the UK seeks to forge new trading relationships outside the EU.
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From what I've read both India and the US want favourable movement of people to the UK in exchange for trade.
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Of course they do.
The two are intrinsically linked, with freedom of movement of labour supporting dynamic free trade.
comment by redmisty (U7556)
posted 11 minutes ago
But denying climate change, being pro life, bellittling women etc is something that I hoped was not a UK issue.
______________
None of this has anything to do with Brexit, as you well know.
Why tar 52% of the population of this country with the same brush as a minority of idiots whose comments you read on a Daily Mail discussion thread?
Do you honestly believe that's logical or are you just still bitter about the referendum result?
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If you care to actually read the comment I made instead of getting insensed... I actually said "alot of"... that is not tarring all, just a majority of people on my facebook, on outlets like DM and even in the real world.
I can only comment on the people I come into contact with, hence why I didn't say "All brexit voters are aligning themselves with trump's policies".
when i say a majority of people on my facebook... i mean a majority of the few brexit voters I do know.
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - 2017 joy squids (U2958)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by redmisty (U7556)
posted 11 minutes ago
But denying climate change, being pro life, bellittling women etc is something that I hoped was not a UK issue.
______________
None of this has anything to do with Brexit, as you well know.
Why tar 52% of the population of this country with the same brush as a minority of idiots whose comments you read on a Daily Mail discussion thread?
Do you honestly believe that's logical or are you just still bitter about the referendum result?
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If you care to actually read the comment I made instead of getting insensed... I actually said "alot of"... that is not tarring all, just a majority of people on my facebook, on outlets like DM and even in the real world.
I can only comment on the people I come into contact with, hence why I didn't say "All brexit voters are aligning themselves with trump's policies".
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Yeah but specifically researching the DM comments section, you must have known what to expect?
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
If the UK wishes to continue to export to it's largest trading partner, goods and services will have to conform to EU regulations.
.......................
No one has said it won't.
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Well, they sort of have...
comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
...Some of my family voted out and immigration wasn't a huge concern for them. It was more to do with Brussels and the stupid legislation....
I click "top rated" and "worst rated"... I think that gives a fairly good indication of the mood of alot of people.
Of course, the internet can be manipulated and I keep that in mind... But not all of 1000s of comments about a said subject, eg, climate change denial, can be bots or russian hacker.
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - 2017 joy squids (U2958)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by redmisty (U7556)
posted 11 minutes ago
But denying climate change, being pro life, bellittling women etc is something that I hoped was not a UK issue.
______________
None of this has anything to do with Brexit, as you well know.
Why tar 52% of the population of this country with the same brush as a minority of idiots whose comments you read on a Daily Mail discussion thread?
Do you honestly believe that's logical or are you just still bitter about the referendum result?
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If you care to actually read the comment I made instead of getting insensed... I actually said "alot of"... that is not tarring all, just a majority of people on my facebook, on outlets like DM and even in the real world.
I can only comment on the people I come into contact with, hence why I didn't say "All brexit voters are aligning themselves with trump's policies".
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Sounds like you're the one getting incensed.....I just asked you a question - is there anything wrong with that?
If you want to read sensible comments on the subject then how about reading a grown up newspaper for starters?
It makes me laugh that some people still try to equate Brexit to racism and bigotry. Why is it racist to want to negotiate trade deals with countries outside Europe? Do those countries not matter?
As for climate change and belittling women, these things literally have nothing whatsoever to do with Brexit, no matter what some moron might have said on the internet.
As an adult you should stick to evaluating the facts surrounding Brexit - and not focus on the aimless online babbling of a bunch of right wing nobs.
Tbf, I read the comment as a clear oberservation of that same "bunch of right wing nobs", and not the sweeping statement on all 'Brexiters' you seem to read it as.
It troubles me that a fair proportion of the people who appear to be particularly passionate and vocal about this ruling fundamentally misunderstand why it had to be made and what it actually means.
But this was also the case with the referendum.
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 2 minutes ago
Tbf, I read the comment as a clear oberservation of that same "bunch of right wing nobs", and not the sweeping statement on all 'Brexiters' you seem to read it as.
_____________________
That's because there is a general consistent theme to that poster's comments in relation to Brexit.
You may not have noticed it but I have.
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posted on 24/1/17
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 29 seconds ago
The EU do not legislate for the UK.
.............
It won't soon, that is for sure.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If the UK wishes to continue to export to it's largest trading partner, goods and services will have to conform to EU regulations.
Which includes consumer, environmental, governance requirements etc. So without having a say on EU statute, the UK will have to continue to adhere to EU regulations.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Doesn't that sound more limiting than it actually is?
posted on 24/1/17
Did i read democracy is still rife.
"Politics is the Entertainment division of the military-industrial complex.” - Frank Zappa.
posted on 24/1/17
Doesn't that sound more limiting than it actually is?
.........................
It is just more bluster from a remainer. The UK and the EU will come to some compromises on both sides. No one will get it all there own way.
posted on 24/1/17
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 minute ago
If the UK wishes to continue to export to it's largest trading partner, goods and services will have to conform to EU regulations.
.......................
No one has said it won't.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Legislation is not fixed. It changes and is amended regularly.
So for example if the EU27 vote to change environmental/pollution laws, say for agriculture. UK farmers/fisheries etc will have to adhere to the changes.
But before the products can be exported, the UK government will firstly need to implement legislation that covers EU requirements. The EU in turn will have to recognise these changes.
This will be replicated in every UK industry.
posted on 24/1/17
Legislation is not fixed. It changes and is amended regularly.
...............
No one has said it is fixed.
posted on 24/1/17
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 minutes ago
Doesn't that sound more limiting than it actually is?
.........................
It is just more bluster from a remainer. The UK and the EU will come to some compromises on both sides. No one will get it all there own way.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Google is your friend. If you don't believe me look at the WTO, and EU commission websites.
posted on 24/1/17
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 minutes ago
Doesn't that sound more limiting than it actually is?
.........................
It is just more bluster from a remainer. The UK and the EU will come to some compromises on both sides. No one will get it all there own way.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We don't have many trump cards to play though, so we will make far more comprimises than any EU country will for us.
posted on 24/1/17
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 minute ago
Legislation is not fixed. It changes and is amended regularly.
...............
No one has said it is fixed.
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You don't need to say this every time someone brings up a new point!
posted on 24/1/17
You don't need to say this every time someone brings up a new point!
...................
Don't bring up a new point by suggesting someone has said something they have not then.
posted on 24/1/17
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 24/1/17
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - 2017 joy squids (U2958)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 minutes ago
Doesn't that sound more limiting than it actually is?
.........................
It is just more bluster from a remainer. The UK and the EU will come to some compromises on both sides. No one will get it all there own way.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We don't have many trump cards to play though, so we will make far more comprimises than any EU country will for us.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Also worth noting the timeframe (2yrs) to leave is not in anyway long enough. The Italian and Scottish diplomats who wrote the Lisbon treaty did so to punish a 'rogue state' (in cases of a coup etc)
Maybe a bit of arrogance on the EU's part but they didn't think a member would ever willingly want to leave.
posted on 24/1/17
Maybe a bit of arrogance on the EU's part but they didn't think a member would ever willingly want to leave.
...........................
Total arrogance then. I suspect that in the next few years will might see a few more members wanting to leave.
All eyes on the Dutch elections coming up in a few weeks time.
posted on 24/1/17
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 minute ago
Maybe a bit of arrogance on the EU's part but they didn't think a member would ever willingly want to leave.
...........................
Total arrogance then. I suspect that in the next few years will might see a few more members wanting to leave.
All eyes on the Dutch elections coming up in a few weeks time.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
With Trump, and the E27, (observing the mess the UK is in) has galvanised the EU. Even Le Penn, has since moved to wanting EU reforms, rather than leaving.
Across the EU there seems to be a feeling of protectionism, both at local government level (as you noted pro EU parties under threat) and from the EU parliament.
Regardless of how the EU member's vote, the UK need the bloc to be successful. Simply as our economy relies on maintaining current trading relationships.
posted on 24/1/17
Regardless of how the EU member's vote, the UK need the bloc to be successful. Simply as our economy relies on maintaining current trading relationships.
------------
This
posted on 24/1/17
But denying climate change, being pro life, bellittling women etc is something that I hoped was not a UK issue.
______________
None of this has anything to do with Brexit, as you well know.
Why tar 52% of the population of this country with the same brush as a minority of idiots whose comments you read on a Daily Mail discussion thread?
Do you honestly believe that's logical or are you just still bitter about the referendum result?
posted on 24/1/17
comment by Coutinho's Happy Feet (U18971)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
Just another example of a leave voter demonstrating a complete lack of understanding for what they actually voted for.
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Doesn't apply to all of them by any stretch. Some of my family voted out and immigration wasn't a huge concern for them. It was more to do with Brussels and the stupid legislation. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
You do cringe when you hear stories about African and Asian people being told to go back home now after Brexit and they have to inform the idiots that their countries of birth aren't EU ones.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ironically UK migration will significantly increase as the UK seeks to forge new trading relationships outside the EU.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
From what I've read both India and the US want favourable movement of people to the UK in exchange for trade.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of course they do.
The two are intrinsically linked, with freedom of movement of labour supporting dynamic free trade.
posted on 24/1/17
comment by redmisty (U7556)
posted 11 minutes ago
But denying climate change, being pro life, bellittling women etc is something that I hoped was not a UK issue.
______________
None of this has anything to do with Brexit, as you well know.
Why tar 52% of the population of this country with the same brush as a minority of idiots whose comments you read on a Daily Mail discussion thread?
Do you honestly believe that's logical or are you just still bitter about the referendum result?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If you care to actually read the comment I made instead of getting insensed... I actually said "alot of"... that is not tarring all, just a majority of people on my facebook, on outlets like DM and even in the real world.
I can only comment on the people I come into contact with, hence why I didn't say "All brexit voters are aligning themselves with trump's policies".
posted on 24/1/17
when i say a majority of people on my facebook... i mean a majority of the few brexit voters I do know.
posted on 24/1/17
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - 2017 joy squids (U2958)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by redmisty (U7556)
posted 11 minutes ago
But denying climate change, being pro life, bellittling women etc is something that I hoped was not a UK issue.
______________
None of this has anything to do with Brexit, as you well know.
Why tar 52% of the population of this country with the same brush as a minority of idiots whose comments you read on a Daily Mail discussion thread?
Do you honestly believe that's logical or are you just still bitter about the referendum result?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If you care to actually read the comment I made instead of getting insensed... I actually said "alot of"... that is not tarring all, just a majority of people on my facebook, on outlets like DM and even in the real world.
I can only comment on the people I come into contact with, hence why I didn't say "All brexit voters are aligning themselves with trump's policies".
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah but specifically researching the DM comments section, you must have known what to expect?
posted on 24/1/17
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
If the UK wishes to continue to export to it's largest trading partner, goods and services will have to conform to EU regulations.
.......................
No one has said it won't.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well, they sort of have...
comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
...Some of my family voted out and immigration wasn't a huge concern for them. It was more to do with Brussels and the stupid legislation....
posted on 24/1/17
I click "top rated" and "worst rated"... I think that gives a fairly good indication of the mood of alot of people.
Of course, the internet can be manipulated and I keep that in mind... But not all of 1000s of comments about a said subject, eg, climate change denial, can be bots or russian hacker.
posted on 24/1/17
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - 2017 joy squids (U2958)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by redmisty (U7556)
posted 11 minutes ago
But denying climate change, being pro life, bellittling women etc is something that I hoped was not a UK issue.
______________
None of this has anything to do with Brexit, as you well know.
Why tar 52% of the population of this country with the same brush as a minority of idiots whose comments you read on a Daily Mail discussion thread?
Do you honestly believe that's logical or are you just still bitter about the referendum result?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If you care to actually read the comment I made instead of getting insensed... I actually said "alot of"... that is not tarring all, just a majority of people on my facebook, on outlets like DM and even in the real world.
I can only comment on the people I come into contact with, hence why I didn't say "All brexit voters are aligning themselves with trump's policies".
--------------
______________________
Sounds like you're the one getting incensed.....I just asked you a question - is there anything wrong with that?
If you want to read sensible comments on the subject then how about reading a grown up newspaper for starters?
It makes me laugh that some people still try to equate Brexit to racism and bigotry. Why is it racist to want to negotiate trade deals with countries outside Europe? Do those countries not matter?
As for climate change and belittling women, these things literally have nothing whatsoever to do with Brexit, no matter what some moron might have said on the internet.
As an adult you should stick to evaluating the facts surrounding Brexit - and not focus on the aimless online babbling of a bunch of right wing nobs.
posted on 24/1/17
Tbf, I read the comment as a clear oberservation of that same "bunch of right wing nobs", and not the sweeping statement on all 'Brexiters' you seem to read it as.
posted on 24/1/17
It troubles me that a fair proportion of the people who appear to be particularly passionate and vocal about this ruling fundamentally misunderstand why it had to be made and what it actually means.
But this was also the case with the referendum.
posted on 24/1/17
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 2 minutes ago
Tbf, I read the comment as a clear oberservation of that same "bunch of right wing nobs", and not the sweeping statement on all 'Brexiters' you seem to read it as.
_____________________
That's because there is a general consistent theme to that poster's comments in relation to Brexit.
You may not have noticed it but I have.
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