so what would happen if you get champs league ??? you would still have league games followed by midweek European. whats the difference?
Yea I feel we still need to take the europa very seriously as I still don't think we will get champs league via top 4.
comment by sterlingsilvagoldera (U4995)
posted 1 minute ago
so what would happen if you get champs league ??? you would still have league games followed by midweek European. whats the difference?
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There is a difference. There isn't the same amount of time between CL/PL games and Europa/PL games
As Manchester Utd every game in every comp should be taken seriously as any other. Just because some of our top four rivals aren't good enough too juggle cup football with chasing top four doesn't mean we should not go all guns blazing. We have a decent sized squad. We should be able to cope fine.
You could only really judge it in hindsight... Going out is only worth it if we get top 4
Top 4 is so tight and competitive... Winning europa could be just as likely
I'd like to win it tbh... Hope for a 99 style of season end where pushing for everything creates momentum and drives us on
I think for us to survive the run in in all comps we'd almost need to have two separate teams and alternate between them.
I.e. , have a Europa and FA Cup side and one for the league
Tricky one, I'd rather finish outside top 4 and win Europa, but it's not an easy tournament to win, so it may actually be easier to get top 4.
A European trophy plus CL spot> top4, easy.
comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 26 minutes ago
As Manchester Utd every game in every comp should be taken seriously as any other. Just because some of our top four rivals aren't good enough too juggle cup football with chasing top four doesn't mean we should not go all guns blazing. We have a decent sized squad. We should be able to cope fine.
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Your comfy 6th place suggests otherwise
comment by Paulpowersleftfoot (U1037)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 26 minutes ago
As Manchester Utd every game in every comp should be taken seriously as any other. Just because some of our top four rivals aren't good enough too juggle cup football with chasing top four doesn't mean we should not go all guns blazing. We have a decent sized squad. We should be able to cope fine.
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Your comfy 6th place suggests otherwise
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2 points off second suggests we're fine champ.
Utd getting both the mick cups under their belt & a top 4 would make for a seriously good season
momentum would suggest this is do-able
I just want to watch as many games as possible.
Weird or what?
comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 36 seconds ago
I just want to watch as many games as possible.
Weird or what?
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bet you weren't saying that last season.
fickle.
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 36 seconds ago
I just want to watch as many games as possible.
Weird or what?
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bet you weren't saying that last season.
fickle.
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Hahahaha you couldn't be more right.
I found myself in a football sense these last three years.
Fergie taught us win or die.
Moyes taught us life isn't about football. Otherwise you'd kill yourself
I still think we are more likely to win the Europa than to finish in the top four.
Two main reasons:
1) It's a cup so we might get an easier run. In the league know for a fact we still have to play Spurs, Arsenal, City and Chelsea, the first three away from home.
2) In a cup it's up to us; we have to rely on others in the league. Yesterday was a microcosm of the difficulties we face: we won comfortably and moved up a place, only to move down again because somebody else won. I know Spurs lost but Liverpool and Arsenal (for me the weakest and most vulnerable of our rivals) both won and I'm not expecting anything other than a City win tomorrow.
So, yes, going out of the Europa would be real blow for us.
I know it's important but I'm never going to be able to think top 4 is a great achievement, not with our funds, manager and history. So Europa Cup for me.
The sheer fact we are yet to play 4 of the top 5 suggests that Europa is as good a chance of us qualifying for the CL as the PL is.
Best route to CL footy for us at the moment is via the Europa.
Look at the opposition we could face in the EL. Toughest I'd say is Spurs.
Then look at our remaining PL fixture list compared to our 5 other rivals.
Add to the fact we are 6th currently, after a 16 match unbeaten run.
No brainer.
But we don't need to beat all those top 4/5 sides to make the top 4.
We could draw them all and still make top 4. The Europa isn't as fearsome as the CL but there are some very dangerous sides left.
Bilbao, Villarreal, Roma, Shatkhtar etc all would be very hard ties on European nights.
The Europa League is a fantastic competition imo.
English clubs often go about things big headed and claim to be big clubs etc and that trickles through to the fans.
Playing in Europe is about prestige, an escape and tactical challenege.
Liverpool, Fulham, Chelsea, Rangers & Celtic have all got to a final in recent years but with the resources down south it's an arena you ought to have done better in compared to the continent.
Clubs are building history when English sides are weighing up what competition has more importance.
"Pretty Pathetic"
Well said to everyone. And that is how it should be.
It's times like these where I refer people to that classical master piece that always puts a spring in me step...
'Go For It' from Rocky 5...👊🏾
Yeah, let's do that!!
comment by Music Is My Time Machine!!! (U19525)
posted 8 minutes ago
The Europa League is a fantastic competition imo.
English clubs often go about things big headed and claim to be big clubs etc and that trickles through to the fans.
Playing in Europe is about prestige, an escape and tactical challenege.
Liverpool, Fulham, Chelsea, Rangers & Celtic have all got to a final in recent years but with the resources down south it's an arena you ought to have done better in compared to the continent.
Clubs are building history when English sides are weighing up what competition has more importance.
"Pretty Pathetic"
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getting in your customary dig at the PL, well done
comment by Robb Mkhitaryan (U21234)
posted 26 minutes ago
But we don't need to beat all those top 4/5 sides to make the top 4.
We could draw them all and still make top 4. The Europa isn't as fearsome as the CL but there are some very dangerous sides left.
Bilbao, Villarreal, Roma, Shatkhtar etc all would be very hard ties on European nights.
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If we can't beat them we have no business in the champions league next year anyway
comment by Clockwork Red: King Henrikh V (U4892)
posted 51 minutes ago
I still think we are more likely to win the Europa than to finish in the top four.
Two main reasons:
1) It's a cup so we might get an easier run. In the league know for a fact we still have to play Spurs, Arsenal, City and Chelsea, the first three away from home.
2) In a cup it's up to us; we have to rely on others in the league. Yesterday was a microcosm of the difficulties we face: we won comfortably and moved up a place, only to move down again because somebody else won. I know Spurs lost but Liverpool and Arsenal (for me the weakest and most vulnerable of our rivals) both won and I'm not expecting anything other than a City win tomorrow.
So, yes, going out of the Europa would be real blow for us.
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I only read the first bit
But fcking he'll yeah !!!!!
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 45 minutes ago
I know it's important but I'm never going to be able to think top 4 is a great achievement, not with our funds, manager and history. So Europa Cup for me.
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My Dad is probably your age.
He tells me Best was the best.
I show him Cantona, Giggs, Rooney, Ronaldo, FACKING RONALDO AND ROONEY - TOGETHER WITH TEVZ - WINNING EURO DOUBLES-
He shows me George Best.
If only George Best had the internet.
And facking Dunc. The original Big Dunc.
I have a lot of respect for Everton's " Big Dunc" and Paul Rideout as well.'
comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red: King Henrikh V (U4892)
posted 51 minutes ago
I still think we are more likely to win the Europa than to finish in the top four.
Two main reasons:
1) It's a cup so we might get an easier run. In the league know for a fact we still have to play Spurs, Arsenal, City and Chelsea, the first three away from home.
2) In a cup it's up to us; we have to rely on others in the league. Yesterday was a microcosm of the difficulties we face: we won comfortably and moved up a place, only to move down again because somebody else won. I know Spurs lost but Liverpool and Arsenal (for me the weakest and most vulnerable of our rivals) both won and I'm not expecting anything other than a City win tomorrow.
So, yes, going out of the Europa would be real blow for us.
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I only read the first bit
But fcking he'll yeah !!!!!
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Hell
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posted on 12/2/17
so what would happen if you get champs league ??? you would still have league games followed by midweek European. whats the difference?
posted on 12/2/17
Yea I feel we still need to take the europa very seriously as I still don't think we will get champs league via top 4.
posted on 12/2/17
comment by sterlingsilvagoldera (U4995)
posted 1 minute ago
so what would happen if you get champs league ??? you would still have league games followed by midweek European. whats the difference?
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There is a difference. There isn't the same amount of time between CL/PL games and Europa/PL games
posted on 12/2/17
As Manchester Utd every game in every comp should be taken seriously as any other. Just because some of our top four rivals aren't good enough too juggle cup football with chasing top four doesn't mean we should not go all guns blazing. We have a decent sized squad. We should be able to cope fine.
posted on 12/2/17
You could only really judge it in hindsight... Going out is only worth it if we get top 4
Top 4 is so tight and competitive... Winning europa could be just as likely
I'd like to win it tbh... Hope for a 99 style of season end where pushing for everything creates momentum and drives us on
posted on 12/2/17
I think for us to survive the run in in all comps we'd almost need to have two separate teams and alternate between them.
I.e. , have a Europa and FA Cup side and one for the league
posted on 12/2/17
Tricky one, I'd rather finish outside top 4 and win Europa, but it's not an easy tournament to win, so it may actually be easier to get top 4.
A European trophy plus CL spot> top4, easy.
posted on 12/2/17
comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 26 minutes ago
As Manchester Utd every game in every comp should be taken seriously as any other. Just because some of our top four rivals aren't good enough too juggle cup football with chasing top four doesn't mean we should not go all guns blazing. We have a decent sized squad. We should be able to cope fine.
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Your comfy 6th place suggests otherwise
posted on 12/2/17
comment by Paulpowersleftfoot (U1037)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 26 minutes ago
As Manchester Utd every game in every comp should be taken seriously as any other. Just because some of our top four rivals aren't good enough too juggle cup football with chasing top four doesn't mean we should not go all guns blazing. We have a decent sized squad. We should be able to cope fine.
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Your comfy 6th place suggests otherwise
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2 points off second suggests we're fine champ.
posted on 12/2/17
Utd getting both the mick cups under their belt & a top 4 would make for a seriously good season
momentum would suggest this is do-able
posted on 12/2/17
I just want to watch as many games as possible.
Weird or what?
posted on 12/2/17
comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 36 seconds ago
I just want to watch as many games as possible.
Weird or what?
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bet you weren't saying that last season.
fickle.
posted on 12/2/17
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 36 seconds ago
I just want to watch as many games as possible.
Weird or what?
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bet you weren't saying that last season.
fickle.
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Hahahaha you couldn't be more right.
I found myself in a football sense these last three years.
Fergie taught us win or die.
Moyes taught us life isn't about football. Otherwise you'd kill yourself
posted on 12/2/17
I still think we are more likely to win the Europa than to finish in the top four.
Two main reasons:
1) It's a cup so we might get an easier run. In the league know for a fact we still have to play Spurs, Arsenal, City and Chelsea, the first three away from home.
2) In a cup it's up to us; we have to rely on others in the league. Yesterday was a microcosm of the difficulties we face: we won comfortably and moved up a place, only to move down again because somebody else won. I know Spurs lost but Liverpool and Arsenal (for me the weakest and most vulnerable of our rivals) both won and I'm not expecting anything other than a City win tomorrow.
So, yes, going out of the Europa would be real blow for us.
posted on 12/2/17
I know it's important but I'm never going to be able to think top 4 is a great achievement, not with our funds, manager and history. So Europa Cup for me.
posted on 12/2/17
The sheer fact we are yet to play 4 of the top 5 suggests that Europa is as good a chance of us qualifying for the CL as the PL is.
posted on 12/2/17
Best route to CL footy for us at the moment is via the Europa.
Look at the opposition we could face in the EL. Toughest I'd say is Spurs.
Then look at our remaining PL fixture list compared to our 5 other rivals.
Add to the fact we are 6th currently, after a 16 match unbeaten run.
No brainer.
posted on 12/2/17
But we don't need to beat all those top 4/5 sides to make the top 4.
We could draw them all and still make top 4. The Europa isn't as fearsome as the CL but there are some very dangerous sides left.
Bilbao, Villarreal, Roma, Shatkhtar etc all would be very hard ties on European nights.
posted on 12/2/17
The Europa League is a fantastic competition imo.
English clubs often go about things big headed and claim to be big clubs etc and that trickles through to the fans.
Playing in Europe is about prestige, an escape and tactical challenege.
Liverpool, Fulham, Chelsea, Rangers & Celtic have all got to a final in recent years but with the resources down south it's an arena you ought to have done better in compared to the continent.
Clubs are building history when English sides are weighing up what competition has more importance.
"Pretty Pathetic"
posted on 12/2/17
Well said to everyone. And that is how it should be.
It's times like these where I refer people to that classical master piece that always puts a spring in me step...
'Go For It' from Rocky 5...👊🏾
Yeah, let's do that!!
posted on 12/2/17
comment by Music Is My Time Machine!!! (U19525)
posted 8 minutes ago
The Europa League is a fantastic competition imo.
English clubs often go about things big headed and claim to be big clubs etc and that trickles through to the fans.
Playing in Europe is about prestige, an escape and tactical challenege.
Liverpool, Fulham, Chelsea, Rangers & Celtic have all got to a final in recent years but with the resources down south it's an arena you ought to have done better in compared to the continent.
Clubs are building history when English sides are weighing up what competition has more importance.
"Pretty Pathetic"
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getting in your customary dig at the PL, well done
posted on 12/2/17
comment by Robb Mkhitaryan (U21234)
posted 26 minutes ago
But we don't need to beat all those top 4/5 sides to make the top 4.
We could draw them all and still make top 4. The Europa isn't as fearsome as the CL but there are some very dangerous sides left.
Bilbao, Villarreal, Roma, Shatkhtar etc all would be very hard ties on European nights.
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If we can't beat them we have no business in the champions league next year anyway
posted on 12/2/17
comment by Clockwork Red: King Henrikh V (U4892)
posted 51 minutes ago
I still think we are more likely to win the Europa than to finish in the top four.
Two main reasons:
1) It's a cup so we might get an easier run. In the league know for a fact we still have to play Spurs, Arsenal, City and Chelsea, the first three away from home.
2) In a cup it's up to us; we have to rely on others in the league. Yesterday was a microcosm of the difficulties we face: we won comfortably and moved up a place, only to move down again because somebody else won. I know Spurs lost but Liverpool and Arsenal (for me the weakest and most vulnerable of our rivals) both won and I'm not expecting anything other than a City win tomorrow.
So, yes, going out of the Europa would be real blow for us.
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I only read the first bit
But fcking he'll yeah !!!!!
posted on 12/2/17
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 45 minutes ago
I know it's important but I'm never going to be able to think top 4 is a great achievement, not with our funds, manager and history. So Europa Cup for me.
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My Dad is probably your age.
He tells me Best was the best.
I show him Cantona, Giggs, Rooney, Ronaldo, FACKING RONALDO AND ROONEY - TOGETHER WITH TEVZ - WINNING EURO DOUBLES-
He shows me George Best.
If only George Best had the internet.
And facking Dunc. The original Big Dunc.
I have a lot of respect for Everton's " Big Dunc" and Paul Rideout as well.'
posted on 12/2/17
comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red: King Henrikh V (U4892)
posted 51 minutes ago
I still think we are more likely to win the Europa than to finish in the top four.
Two main reasons:
1) It's a cup so we might get an easier run. In the league know for a fact we still have to play Spurs, Arsenal, City and Chelsea, the first three away from home.
2) In a cup it's up to us; we have to rely on others in the league. Yesterday was a microcosm of the difficulties we face: we won comfortably and moved up a place, only to move down again because somebody else won. I know Spurs lost but Liverpool and Arsenal (for me the weakest and most vulnerable of our rivals) both won and I'm not expecting anything other than a City win tomorrow.
So, yes, going out of the Europa would be real blow for us.
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I only read the first bit
But fcking he'll yeah !!!!!
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Hell
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