In regards to Vardy, doesnt he have a better shot to goals ratio that he did last season?

surely if he isnt getting the chances, he cant be blamed for not scoring as many?

It's a pointless argument in many ways because Ranieri has no options. He knows that which is why he's kept faith with the title winning team for so long.

The club have snookered themselves completely. You may as well drop Drinkwater but King isn't going to offer much more at this level - he's been atrocious in some of the premier league games where he has started.

Amartey and Benny at centre back is a reserve partnership that may fare better than Huth and Morgan but having never played together are we honestly expecting them to keep out some of the finest strikers in the country?

Zieler or Kasper probably makes little difference. They are both poor and lacking in confidence

In short, with no transfer window coming up - and no real strength in depth - it's time to think about who we want to keep next season.

This rot looks terminal.

It's just a case now of whether Ranieri is allowed to sink with his ship.

Dunc - the intensity has gone out of his game; the hassling of defenders, making any kind of dangerous runs. You can't finish if you don't get into decent positions. I watched him carefully against Swansea, and he's an absolute shadow of the player he was. The high-intensity work rate just isn't there any more.

lack of effort more than anything then?

Yes. And as I say, avoiding even getting into dangerous positions. Slimani looks keen to get into the right place when he's on the pitch and gets opportunities as a result. Vardy just lets the game happen around him this season.

Fitness levels have dropped completely since some of the sports science team were deemed not necessary by Ranieri and co

comment by Nicky Law's bald coot (U6025)
posted 8 minutes ago
This rot looks terminal.

It's just a case now of whether Ranieri is allowed to sink with his ship.
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Agreed. And sadly he will be allowed which is probably not fair on us or him

comment by Blackstarr (U12353)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Nicky Law's bald coot (U6025)
posted 8 minutes ago
This rot looks terminal.

It's just a case now of whether Ranieri is allowed to sink with his ship.
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Agreed. And sadly he will be allowed which is probably not fair on us or him
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i think it would be harsh to sack Ranieri.
it was only 6 months ago that he led you to probably the biggest sporting upset in english football history.

although im sure youre piiissed off with how the season has gone and is going, but do you not think that he deserves to go down with the sinking ship, a bit like the captain of a ship if thats what he choses?

I think he may use the Millwall game to partially bed in some of these changes ahead of Sevilla and a return to the premier league fixtures.

I'm still waiting to see him play this defensive four in front of the back line so we can win the ball higher. Unfortunately for me, I'm not sure this is even a distant thought for Ranieri and unfortunately for all fans, I think even if he did now it may be too late as something looks broken.

I'd probably drop Fuchs for Chilwell and possibly Huth and start playing Okazaki for his defensive work with gray on the left and Albrighton on the right and Slimani up top. Not sure it matters at the minute though. Even when Ranieri appears to be more adventurous he seems determined for large chunks of games to play Albrighton gray and Mahrez in the wrong positions and, on several occasions now, keen to bring Albrighton off when Slimani comes on.

comment by Dunc (U11713)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Blackstarr (U12353)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Nicky Law's bald coot (U6025)
posted 8 minutes ago
This rot looks terminal.

It's just a case now of whether Ranieri is allowed to sink with his ship.
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Agreed. And sadly he will be allowed which is probably not fair on us or him
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i think it would be harsh to sack Ranieri.
it was only 6 months ago that he led you to probably the biggest sporting upset in english football history.

although im sure youre piiissed off with how the season has gone and is going, but do you not think that he deserves to go down with the sinking ship, a bit like the captain of a ship if thats what he choses?

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It depends on who you think the success stemmed from and Pearson and Walsh would be my best bet not Ranieri.

comment by Nicky Law's bald coot (U6025)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by Dunc (U11713)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Blackstarr (U12353)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Nicky Law's bald coot (U6025)
posted 8 minutes ago
This rot looks terminal.

It's just a case now of whether Ranieri is allowed to sink with his ship.
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Agreed. And sadly he will be allowed which is probably not fair on us or him
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i think it would be harsh to sack Ranieri.
it was only 6 months ago that he led you to probably the biggest sporting upset in english football history.

although im sure youre piiissed off with how the season has gone and is going, but do you not think that he deserves to go down with the sinking ship, a bit like the captain of a ship if thats what he choses?

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It depends on who you think the success stemmed from and Pearson and Walsh would be my best bet not Ranieri.
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Exactly

so had pearson and walsh stayed, would Leicester have won the league?

i highly doubt it

I think if they had stayed it would have been the same team in the same formation. But it's difficult to say what else Ranierl did or didn't bring that affected our title win. But he was part of that group that did so deserves respect for that

comment by Dunc (U11713)
posted 54 seconds ago
so had pearson and walsh stayed, would Leicester have won the league?

i highly doubt it
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Correct but equally it's a mistake to not understand that the lions share of the work was from before Ranieri even arrived

comment by Blackstarr (U12353)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Dunc (U11713)
posted 54 seconds ago
so had pearson and walsh stayed, would Leicester have won the league?

i highly doubt it
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Correct but equally it's a mistake to not understand that the lions share of the work was from before Ranieri even arrived
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no mate i understand that, but ranieri had the ability to take Leicester to the next level.

I think Ranieri was exceptionally lucky and see no reason to believe the same wouldn't have happened with Pearson at the helm.

It was momentum from the previous season that was created by Pearson and the astute signings from Walsh that allowed them to win the league (and the failings of the bigger clubs to capitalise)

I don't see where Ranieri stamped his mark on the team but I agree he does deserve some credit as ultimately he was at the helm but it was a fantastic case of landing the job at the perfect time all he needed to do was not make huge changes and ride the momentum.

What Ranieri did was to take the pressure off the players and manage things tactically well. That's something Pearson struggled with at times - so Ranieri played his part. But he's been absolutely dreadful this season and has shown exactly why he's gone from managing the likes of Inter Milan and Chelsea to Leicester City

If Ranieri was to step down or lose his job, what would the fans make of re-appointing Pearson?

Or does his son's adventures in Thailand give him no chance of ever getting back in.

I think some fans would like Pearson back, others would hate it. He's a bit like Thatcher - very controversial figure!

I'm somewhere inbetween - I can acknowledge his short comings but also can see where he would add real value in this situation.

The reality is I don't think he would come back. He is very upset about what happened when he was given the boot

I think Ranieri's most telling move was, in my opinion, to remove De-laet and Schlupp and replace with Simpson and Fuchs. I think this happened after the home game with Arsenal, fairly early in the title winning season.
After that inspired move the team pretty much picked its self.

You were a counterattacking side. A side who had the best tackler in Europe winning the ball from everywhere and giving it to the creative player in Mahrez, who started your moves.

Kante has gone and is a key player in Chelsea`s team who are...Champoins elect already.

Mahrez, clearly had his head turned at the start of the season and wont be here come August. No coincidence his best performances are in the Champions league.

The rest are average and are no longer playing as a very good team.

Spectacular fall from grace.

Okazaki in > Mahrez out
Amartey or Mendy in > Drinkwater out
Chilwell in > Fuchs out

I would try that first.

Get in hungry players. I won't judge Amartey or Mendy until they've had a chance in a more attacking role next to Ndidi.

Okazaki needs to play if we are going to play Mahrez on the wing and categorically needs to play if we are going to risk playing Mahrez AND Gray. If Mahrez plays in behind (a better option for me as he is less of a risk defensively there) we need to sacrifice Gray and play Chilwell on the left, or a defensively sound midfielder who can play wide (in addition to Albrighton) although none of them stand out as an option. Or alternatively a 451 swapping Okazaki for another CM (ultimately, this is a 4411 <see Chilwell team selection above> if we opt for Mahrez as that CM as opposed to someone who can tackle an opponent).

Ultimately, all of what I've said makes FA difference because I don't think Ranieri is even seeing the importance of those four defensively sound players in or around the middle of the park - which is actually more worrying than him recognising that possibility but opting for something else

Dung everyone is baffled. The team trains well doing the week crosses the line and boom or more of a damp squib.
I think the manager coach just needs to get an honest answer from the players do you believe in yourselves the team and think you can win if not put your feet up.

Last years squad without Kante should be good enough to stay up but are not. We need players that are comfertable on the ball take one look at Morgan first kick a rushed punt up field.
Someone on the pitch needs to do a Cambiaso and take charge whos going to do that?