comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 11 hours, 27 minutes ago
It's a waste of time debating with TBBAB. He uses the scattergun approach of throwing in everything he can think of at once. Trying to have a debate with him is like herding cats.
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To be fair, I debunked your posts quite easily, so having a pop at me, among your new cabal, achieves little and suggests weakness!Especially when I was not on the forum, to use my trusty scatter gunπ
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 11 hours, 20 minutes ago
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 1 minute ago
It's a waste of time debating with TBBAB. He uses the scattergun approach of throwing in everything he can think of at once. Trying to have a debate with him is like herding cats.
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I was debating UK migration, and migration figures with him on another thread.
When I asked for evidence to back up his claims, (uncontrolled mass migration rhetoric) and as there is established widespread data which disproves his view, he claimed his own personal perception surpasses all collective national, or international research.
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Not quite true, you wee tinker..
I told you about my reading, research, experiences in England, work in the civil service dealing with stats, census figures, DWP and JSA stats, along with fifty years on earth, taking in info from all sources.
But hey, like Cal, gather like gossiping fish wives when I am away, and act like the fake news folk you slateπ
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - ΩΩΨ³Ψ·ΩΩ (U1860)
posted 7 hours, 43 minutes ago
Oh the experience garnered by fronting a job at the Jobcentre.. yeah, that's not a myopic viewpoint at all.
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One aspect redin, with twenty years DWP and Jsa experience, and in the Office of Population, Census and Surveys in London.
You regressive leftists still do not get why Corbyn and Hilary and Remain lost, do you?
Using snide comments, and Insulting other views, if they differ from your leftist regressive manifesto.
Deplorableπ
comment by selbstgerechtein (U7048)
posted 7 hours, 37 minutes ago
More delightful UKIP folk
https://stv.tv/news/politics/1380697-sex-offender-keeps-taxpayer-funded-job-with-scots-ukip-mep/
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Stay classy.
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 6 hours, 49 minutes ago
To be honest, other than a perceived (possibly reputational/credibility) requirement of being the leader of Ukip, I have no idea why Nuttall is even standing in Stoke.
It’s not as if Carswell, (Ukip’s sole MP – who’s essentially a Tory) and him have any kind of working relationship. They can’t stand each other.
He still receives his MEP salary, (at tax payers expense – for doing nothing) so don’t think it’s financially motivated. And dependent on a50 negotiations, he’ll probably receive a MEP pension when he retires. The epitome of EU bureaucracy.
Looking at his website there isn’t even anything close to a manifesto. Although he is critical of the (proven) NHS accusations made against him.
Anyway, should he lose, he can either pick up his career in professional football, or exploit his PhD in history to get a job in Liverpool Uni, or even go back to working as a ‘OO’ agent for MI5.
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The Stoke area,was seventy per cent Leave.....ahhh stats.
Possibly, why Paul is standing?
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 54 minutes ago
Or it could say an awful lot about the magnitude of his lies and deceptive campaign..
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Not a ukip fan then.
Labour lad called Janet Street Porter a polished terd, and attacked our Loose Women.
Said leave and brexit was poo.
Seems nice.you
TBAB
In regard to UK migration data I mentioned the following sources:
The Home Office
Office of National Statistics
London School of Economics
European Commission
Fullfact.org
Blavatnik School of Government
Channel four fact check
Migration watch UK
Commons select committee
House of lords select committee
Oxford (university) Migration Observatory
NISRA (Northern Ireland's official statistics and social research body).
British Chambers of Commerce
CBI
You then attempted to counter/debunk these groups and bodies with:
"Travel and live in England, Pearce......beats any wee stat."
After you provided some further anecdotal personal experiences, you concluded by stating:
"Perception, gut feeling, experience, opinion, combined with research and empirical evidence will do this hillbilly, just fine!"
And you want to be taken seriously? Can't you see how utterly ridiculous and misguided this is.
There is no comparison.
----
In regard to Nuttall, maybe you can enlighten me in regard to his reasons for standing, and his aims, manifesto for the people of Stoke?
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Pearce
Those bodies and groups were not my target, and nor was I trying to counter or debunk them.
I am sure they all do unbiased, objective research and have no agenda, because that is how it works.
You refer to Channel Four facts......would you say they are Daily Mail or Guardian minded?
Get CNN stats, then Fox news stats, and who do you believe?
News Letter or Irish news facts?
When I use the term perception , you dismiss it outright, but I was also pointing to public perception, as in how they view Immigration in their lives.Stats can be spot on, but if folk feel alienated, fearful, or worried, surely that is relevant.
I am not saying ignore stats, research, or experts.
On Stoke and ukip, you know as much or more than I do.
Off the cuff, as I said ten mins ago, it is safe brexit turf, and as a new leader, Nuttall sees an opening to Parliament?
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 49 minutes ago
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 11 hours, 27 minutes ago
It's a waste of time debating with TBBAB. He uses the scattergun approach of throwing in everything he can think of at once. Trying to have a debate with him is like herding cats.
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To be fair, I debunked your posts quite easily, so having a pop at me, among your new cabal, achieves little and suggests weakness!Especially when I was not on the forum, to use my trusty scatter gunπ
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Off to bed, then.
Try debate, as opposed to gossip, or insults.
Nuttalls had a bad twenty four hours. First off he says anyone who doubts he was at Hillsborough a lowlife, then he lies about losing close personal friends at Hillsborough and then he refuses to denounce a major funder of BNP, sorry meant UKIP for saying the survivors (which allegedly Nuttal is) are milking it.
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TBAB
The point, which seems lost on you. Is that I have used a variety of reliable and trusted factual sources, which I used to form an opinion. You have not.
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Not sure if you've noticed but the referendum was last year. Given Ukip are a one policy party, and we're leaving the EU, why is Nuttall standing?
He doesn't even have a manifesto.
I was going to check his website again but he's had to completely delete it.
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 49 minutes ago
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 11 hours, 27 minutes ago
It's a waste of time debating with TBBAB. He uses the scattergun approach of throwing in everything he can think of at once. Trying to have a debate with him is like herding cats.
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To be fair, I debunked your posts quite easily, so having a pop at me, among your new cabal, achieves little and suggests weakness!Especially when I was not on the forum, to use my trusty scatter gunπ
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Off to bed, then.
Try debate, as opposed to gossip, or insults.
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Watching snooker far more interesting.
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Ok
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 5 minutes ago
TBAB
The point, which seems lost on you. Is that I have used a variety of reliable and trusted factual sources, which I used to form an opinion. You have not.
----
Not sure if you've noticed but the referendum was last year. Given Ukip are a one policy party, and we're leaving the EU, why is Nuttall standing?
He doesn't even have a manifesto.
I was going to check his website again but he's had to completely delete it.
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He only picked Stoke because he thought it would be an easy win. 70% of the electorate in Stoke voted leave in the referendum.
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 3 minutes ago
TBAB
The point, which seems lost on you. Is that I have used a variety of reliable and trusted factual sources, which I used to form an opinion. You have not.
----
Not sure if you've noticed but the referendum was last year. Given Ukip are a one policy party, and we're leaving the EU, why is Nuttall standing?
He doesn't even have a manifesto.
I was going to check his website again but he's had to completely delete it.
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Again, I am not forming opinion from thin air, and how do you know I have not read the stats you have, but decided to process them differently.
Stats are my friend too!
comment by KnottyAshTaxDodger. (U8934)
posted 13 minutes ago
Nuttalls had a bad twenty four hours. First off he says anyone who doubts he was at Hillsborough a lowlife, then he lies about losing close personal friends at Hillsborough and then he refuses to denounce a major funder of BNP, sorry meant UKIP for saying the survivors (which allegedly Nuttal is) are milking it.
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No offence, but who knows if Nuttall was there or not?
I saw him on Andrew Marr, outlining his Tranmere links, NHS views and qualifications.
If there was spin regarding Nuttall and Hillsborough, it will be called out.
If Nuttall was at Hillsborough, and if he knew victim's, the critics will just slip away.
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by KnottyAshTaxDodger. (U8934)
posted 13 minutes ago
Nuttalls had a bad twenty four hours. First off he says anyone who doubts he was at Hillsborough a lowlife, then he lies about losing close personal friends at Hillsborough and then he refuses to denounce a major funder of BNP, sorry meant UKIP for saying the survivors (which allegedly Nuttal is) are milking it.
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No offence, but who knows if Nuttall was there or not?
I saw him on Andrew Marr, outlining his Tranmere links, NHS views and qualifications.
If there was spin regarding Nuttall and Hillsborough, it will be called out.
If Nuttall was at Hillsborough, and if he knew victim's, the critics will just slip away.
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He admitted yesterday he didn't. He's not going to be coming back to Merseyside anytime soon.
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 14 minutes ago
TBAB
The point, which seems lost on you. Is that I have used a variety of reliable and trusted factual sources, which I used to form an opinion. You have not.
----
Not sure if you've noticed but the referendum was last year. Given Ukip are a one policy party, and we're leaving the EU, why is Nuttall standing?
He doesn't even have a manifesto.
I was going to check his website again but he's had to completely delete it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I guess ukip want to keep an eye on how brexit pans out...do you admit Farage and ukip got the Eu and immigration debate to the fore?
Ukip are standing in Carrick and an activist lives nearby, so I will check their manifesto for you.
Off to Portugal to orrow at 7am, so will chat next Wednesday, Pearce.
Peace
The point is that Ukip's sole purpose was to exit the EU. Hence why they have countless MEP's and only one MP.
For the sake of argument, Nuttall wins. Then what?
An anti EU MEP manifesto is useless to the people of Stoke. Carswell and him vs 329 odd Tories in Westminster. What does he expect to achieve.
The fact that the majority of the potteries voted Leave is completely redundant.
I suspect, like most people, they'll want someone that can deal with the day to day concerns of life in Stoke. An area he knows nothing about, and the type of issues he's little experience in.
IMO he's standing simply for the prestige of being an MP.
comment by KnottyAshTaxDodger. (U8934)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by KnottyAshTaxDodger. (U8934)
posted 13 minutes ago
Nuttalls had a bad twenty four hours. First off he says anyone who doubts he was at Hillsborough a lowlife, then he lies about losing close personal friends at Hillsborough and then he refuses to denounce a major funder of BNP, sorry meant UKIP for saying the survivors (which allegedly Nuttal is) are milking it.
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No offence, but who knows if Nuttall was there or not?
I saw him on Andrew Marr, outlining his Tranmere links, NHS views and qualifications.
If there was spin regarding Nuttall and Hillsborough, it will be called out.
If Nuttall was at Hillsborough, and if he knew victim's, the critics will just slip away.
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He admitted yesterday he didn't. He's not going to be coming back to Merseyside anytime soon.
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Sorry bud, did he not say sorry as he did not loose close friends at Hillsborough,,but was there supporting his team with family members, and he knew victims?
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 3 minutes ago
The point is that Ukip's sole purpose was to exit the EU. Hence why they have countless MEP's and only one MP.
For the sake of argument, Nuttall wins. Then what?
An anti EU MEP manifesto is useless to the people of Stoke. Carswell and him vs 329 odd Tories in Westminster. What does he expect to achieve.
The fact that the majority of the potteries voted Leave is completely redundant.
I suspect, like most people, they'll want someone that can deal with the day to day concerns of life in Stoke. An area he knows nothing about, and the type of issues he's little experience in.
IMO he's standing simply for the prestige of being an MP.
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Possibly, as politician's are often less than nice.
I was at Qub with many of the DUP leadership and some SF folk.Not all fine folk!Like All parties.
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 4 minutes ago
Off to Portugal to orrow at 7am, so will chat next Wednesday, Pearce.
Peace
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Stay on the right side of the law TBAB. You know now what we use our truncheons for over here, and we're just itching for a bit of Brexit botty.
I suspect, like most people, they'll want someone that can deal with the day to day concerns of life in Stoke. An area he knows nothing about, and the type of issues he's little experience in.
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Then I take it you would like to recommend the Labour candidate.
comment by itsonlyagame (U6426)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 4 minutes ago
Off to Portugal to orrow at 7am, so will chat next Wednesday, Pearce.
Peace
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Stay on the right side of the law TBAB. You know now what we use our truncheons for over here, and we're just itching for a bit of Brexit botty.
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posted on 15/2/17
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 11 hours, 27 minutes ago
It's a waste of time debating with TBBAB. He uses the scattergun approach of throwing in everything he can think of at once. Trying to have a debate with him is like herding cats.
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To be fair, I debunked your posts quite easily, so having a pop at me, among your new cabal, achieves little and suggests weakness!Especially when I was not on the forum, to use my trusty scatter gunπ
posted on 15/2/17
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 11 hours, 20 minutes ago
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 1 minute ago
It's a waste of time debating with TBBAB. He uses the scattergun approach of throwing in everything he can think of at once. Trying to have a debate with him is like herding cats.
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I was debating UK migration, and migration figures with him on another thread.
When I asked for evidence to back up his claims, (uncontrolled mass migration rhetoric) and as there is established widespread data which disproves his view, he claimed his own personal perception surpasses all collective national, or international research.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not quite true, you wee tinker..
I told you about my reading, research, experiences in England, work in the civil service dealing with stats, census figures, DWP and JSA stats, along with fifty years on earth, taking in info from all sources.
But hey, like Cal, gather like gossiping fish wives when I am away, and act like the fake news folk you slateπ
posted on 15/2/17
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - ΩΩΨ³Ψ·ΩΩ (U1860)
posted 7 hours, 43 minutes ago
Oh the experience garnered by fronting a job at the Jobcentre.. yeah, that's not a myopic viewpoint at all.
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One aspect redin, with twenty years DWP and Jsa experience, and in the Office of Population, Census and Surveys in London.
You regressive leftists still do not get why Corbyn and Hilary and Remain lost, do you?
Using snide comments, and Insulting other views, if they differ from your leftist regressive manifesto.
Deplorableπ
posted on 15/2/17
comment by selbstgerechtein (U7048)
posted 7 hours, 37 minutes ago
More delightful UKIP folk
https://stv.tv/news/politics/1380697-sex-offender-keeps-taxpayer-funded-job-with-scots-ukip-mep/
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Stay classy.
posted on 15/2/17
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 6 hours, 49 minutes ago
To be honest, other than a perceived (possibly reputational/credibility) requirement of being the leader of Ukip, I have no idea why Nuttall is even standing in Stoke.
It’s not as if Carswell, (Ukip’s sole MP – who’s essentially a Tory) and him have any kind of working relationship. They can’t stand each other.
He still receives his MEP salary, (at tax payers expense – for doing nothing) so don’t think it’s financially motivated. And dependent on a50 negotiations, he’ll probably receive a MEP pension when he retires. The epitome of EU bureaucracy.
Looking at his website there isn’t even anything close to a manifesto. Although he is critical of the (proven) NHS accusations made against him.
Anyway, should he lose, he can either pick up his career in professional football, or exploit his PhD in history to get a job in Liverpool Uni, or even go back to working as a ‘OO’ agent for MI5.
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The Stoke area,was seventy per cent Leave.....ahhh stats.
Possibly, why Paul is standing?
posted on 15/2/17
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 54 minutes ago
Or it could say an awful lot about the magnitude of his lies and deceptive campaign..
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not a ukip fan then.
Labour lad called Janet Street Porter a polished terd, and attacked our Loose Women.
Said leave and brexit was poo.
Seems nice.you
posted on 15/2/17
TBAB
In regard to UK migration data I mentioned the following sources:
The Home Office
Office of National Statistics
London School of Economics
European Commission
Fullfact.org
Blavatnik School of Government
Channel four fact check
Migration watch UK
Commons select committee
House of lords select committee
Oxford (university) Migration Observatory
NISRA (Northern Ireland's official statistics and social research body).
British Chambers of Commerce
CBI
You then attempted to counter/debunk these groups and bodies with:
"Travel and live in England, Pearce......beats any wee stat."
After you provided some further anecdotal personal experiences, you concluded by stating:
"Perception, gut feeling, experience, opinion, combined with research and empirical evidence will do this hillbilly, just fine!"
And you want to be taken seriously? Can't you see how utterly ridiculous and misguided this is.
There is no comparison.
----
In regard to Nuttall, maybe you can enlighten me in regard to his reasons for standing, and his aims, manifesto for the people of Stoke?
posted on 15/2/17
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posted on 15/2/17
Pearce
Those bodies and groups were not my target, and nor was I trying to counter or debunk them.
I am sure they all do unbiased, objective research and have no agenda, because that is how it works.
You refer to Channel Four facts......would you say they are Daily Mail or Guardian minded?
Get CNN stats, then Fox news stats, and who do you believe?
News Letter or Irish news facts?
When I use the term perception , you dismiss it outright, but I was also pointing to public perception, as in how they view Immigration in their lives.Stats can be spot on, but if folk feel alienated, fearful, or worried, surely that is relevant.
I am not saying ignore stats, research, or experts.
On Stoke and ukip, you know as much or more than I do.
Off the cuff, as I said ten mins ago, it is safe brexit turf, and as a new leader, Nuttall sees an opening to Parliament?
posted on 15/2/17
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 49 minutes ago
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 11 hours, 27 minutes ago
It's a waste of time debating with TBBAB. He uses the scattergun approach of throwing in everything he can think of at once. Trying to have a debate with him is like herding cats.
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To be fair, I debunked your posts quite easily, so having a pop at me, among your new cabal, achieves little and suggests weakness!Especially when I was not on the forum, to use my trusty scatter gunπ
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Off to bed, then.
Try debate, as opposed to gossip, or insults.
posted on 15/2/17
Nuttalls had a bad twenty four hours. First off he says anyone who doubts he was at Hillsborough a lowlife, then he lies about losing close personal friends at Hillsborough and then he refuses to denounce a major funder of BNP, sorry meant UKIP for saying the survivors (which allegedly Nuttal is) are milking it.
posted on 15/2/17
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posted on 15/2/17
TBAB
The point, which seems lost on you. Is that I have used a variety of reliable and trusted factual sources, which I used to form an opinion. You have not.
----
Not sure if you've noticed but the referendum was last year. Given Ukip are a one policy party, and we're leaving the EU, why is Nuttall standing?
He doesn't even have a manifesto.
I was going to check his website again but he's had to completely delete it.
posted on 15/2/17
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 49 minutes ago
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 11 hours, 27 minutes ago
It's a waste of time debating with TBBAB. He uses the scattergun approach of throwing in everything he can think of at once. Trying to have a debate with him is like herding cats.
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To be fair, I debunked your posts quite easily, so having a pop at me, among your new cabal, achieves little and suggests weakness!Especially when I was not on the forum, to use my trusty scatter gunπ
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Off to bed, then.
Try debate, as opposed to gossip, or insults.
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Watching snooker far more interesting.
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Ok
posted on 15/2/17
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 5 minutes ago
TBAB
The point, which seems lost on you. Is that I have used a variety of reliable and trusted factual sources, which I used to form an opinion. You have not.
----
Not sure if you've noticed but the referendum was last year. Given Ukip are a one policy party, and we're leaving the EU, why is Nuttall standing?
He doesn't even have a manifesto.
I was going to check his website again but he's had to completely delete it.
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He only picked Stoke because he thought it would be an easy win. 70% of the electorate in Stoke voted leave in the referendum.
posted on 15/2/17
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 3 minutes ago
TBAB
The point, which seems lost on you. Is that I have used a variety of reliable and trusted factual sources, which I used to form an opinion. You have not.
----
Not sure if you've noticed but the referendum was last year. Given Ukip are a one policy party, and we're leaving the EU, why is Nuttall standing?
He doesn't even have a manifesto.
I was going to check his website again but he's had to completely delete it.
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Again, I am not forming opinion from thin air, and how do you know I have not read the stats you have, but decided to process them differently.
Stats are my friend too!
posted on 15/2/17
comment by KnottyAshTaxDodger. (U8934)
posted 13 minutes ago
Nuttalls had a bad twenty four hours. First off he says anyone who doubts he was at Hillsborough a lowlife, then he lies about losing close personal friends at Hillsborough and then he refuses to denounce a major funder of BNP, sorry meant UKIP for saying the survivors (which allegedly Nuttal is) are milking it.
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No offence, but who knows if Nuttall was there or not?
I saw him on Andrew Marr, outlining his Tranmere links, NHS views and qualifications.
If there was spin regarding Nuttall and Hillsborough, it will be called out.
If Nuttall was at Hillsborough, and if he knew victim's, the critics will just slip away.
posted on 15/2/17
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by KnottyAshTaxDodger. (U8934)
posted 13 minutes ago
Nuttalls had a bad twenty four hours. First off he says anyone who doubts he was at Hillsborough a lowlife, then he lies about losing close personal friends at Hillsborough and then he refuses to denounce a major funder of BNP, sorry meant UKIP for saying the survivors (which allegedly Nuttal is) are milking it.
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No offence, but who knows if Nuttall was there or not?
I saw him on Andrew Marr, outlining his Tranmere links, NHS views and qualifications.
If there was spin regarding Nuttall and Hillsborough, it will be called out.
If Nuttall was at Hillsborough, and if he knew victim's, the critics will just slip away.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He admitted yesterday he didn't. He's not going to be coming back to Merseyside anytime soon.
posted on 15/2/17
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 14 minutes ago
TBAB
The point, which seems lost on you. Is that I have used a variety of reliable and trusted factual sources, which I used to form an opinion. You have not.
----
Not sure if you've noticed but the referendum was last year. Given Ukip are a one policy party, and we're leaving the EU, why is Nuttall standing?
He doesn't even have a manifesto.
I was going to check his website again but he's had to completely delete it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I guess ukip want to keep an eye on how brexit pans out...do you admit Farage and ukip got the Eu and immigration debate to the fore?
Ukip are standing in Carrick and an activist lives nearby, so I will check their manifesto for you.
Off to Portugal to orrow at 7am, so will chat next Wednesday, Pearce.
Peace
posted on 15/2/17
The point is that Ukip's sole purpose was to exit the EU. Hence why they have countless MEP's and only one MP.
For the sake of argument, Nuttall wins. Then what?
An anti EU MEP manifesto is useless to the people of Stoke. Carswell and him vs 329 odd Tories in Westminster. What does he expect to achieve.
The fact that the majority of the potteries voted Leave is completely redundant.
I suspect, like most people, they'll want someone that can deal with the day to day concerns of life in Stoke. An area he knows nothing about, and the type of issues he's little experience in.
IMO he's standing simply for the prestige of being an MP.
posted on 15/2/17
comment by KnottyAshTaxDodger. (U8934)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by KnottyAshTaxDodger. (U8934)
posted 13 minutes ago
Nuttalls had a bad twenty four hours. First off he says anyone who doubts he was at Hillsborough a lowlife, then he lies about losing close personal friends at Hillsborough and then he refuses to denounce a major funder of BNP, sorry meant UKIP for saying the survivors (which allegedly Nuttal is) are milking it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No offence, but who knows if Nuttall was there or not?
I saw him on Andrew Marr, outlining his Tranmere links, NHS views and qualifications.
If there was spin regarding Nuttall and Hillsborough, it will be called out.
If Nuttall was at Hillsborough, and if he knew victim's, the critics will just slip away.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He admitted yesterday he didn't. He's not going to be coming back to Merseyside anytime soon.
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Sorry bud, did he not say sorry as he did not loose close friends at Hillsborough,,but was there supporting his team with family members, and he knew victims?
posted on 15/2/17
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 3 minutes ago
The point is that Ukip's sole purpose was to exit the EU. Hence why they have countless MEP's and only one MP.
For the sake of argument, Nuttall wins. Then what?
An anti EU MEP manifesto is useless to the people of Stoke. Carswell and him vs 329 odd Tories in Westminster. What does he expect to achieve.
The fact that the majority of the potteries voted Leave is completely redundant.
I suspect, like most people, they'll want someone that can deal with the day to day concerns of life in Stoke. An area he knows nothing about, and the type of issues he's little experience in.
IMO he's standing simply for the prestige of being an MP.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Possibly, as politician's are often less than nice.
I was at Qub with many of the DUP leadership and some SF folk.Not all fine folk!Like All parties.
posted on 15/2/17
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 4 minutes ago
Off to Portugal to orrow at 7am, so will chat next Wednesday, Pearce.
Peace
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Stay on the right side of the law TBAB. You know now what we use our truncheons for over here, and we're just itching for a bit of Brexit botty.
posted on 15/2/17
I suspect, like most people, they'll want someone that can deal with the day to day concerns of life in Stoke. An area he knows nothing about, and the type of issues he's little experience in.
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Then I take it you would like to recommend the Labour candidate.
posted on 15/2/17
comment by itsonlyagame (U6426)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 4 minutes ago
Off to Portugal to orrow at 7am, so will chat next Wednesday, Pearce.
Peace
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Stay on the right side of the law TBAB. You know now what we use our truncheons for over here, and we're just itching for a bit of Brexit botty.
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Thought that was gay Paris, bud?
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