comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 1 minute ago
QT has become the Jeremy Kyle show of political debate.
Yet I still tune in…
I have yet to see anything like an intelligent debate (even in the HoC’s) in regard to the UK’s future trading relationship(s).
Anyway, if you think Scotland has it bad, spare a thought for NI. We didn’t even have an Executive to produce a white paper, and are basically passengers in the Tory Brexitmobile.
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shouldnt spend all your time riding horses along a beach then
kidding everyone!!!! delete if you must
Ivan,
The SNP's record to date on many issue's
The opportunistic nature of the party also and their band of freedom fighters and do-gooders that occupy George square etc and spout their hatred towards English rule and promise of milk n honey. They spout the same lack of evidence as the SNP party.
Oil Rich nation, my erse. that argument is done.
We have low wages, poverty, baby boom, all sorts of issues that a large deficit of 9% simply want cut it with the EU whom require only 3% upon membership.
Scotland for me is a potential ticking time bomb and the SNP have been completely negligent and will put all blame on Westminster when shoittte hits the fan.
Duke - not what I'm saying at all.
The SNP created a white paper with their vision of an independent Scotland.
It was riddled with flaws and was very subjective.
However at least they'd thought of it, which the OP seemed to suggest they hadn't. Which is ridiculous really.
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comment by Music Is My Time Machine!!! (U19525)
posted 3 seconds ago
Ivan,
The SNP's record to date on many issue's
The opportunistic nature of the party also and their band of freedom fighters and do-gooders that occupy George square etc and spout their hatred towards English rule and promise of milk n honey. They spout the same lack of evidence as the SNP party.
Oil Rich nation, my erse. that argument is done.
We have low wages, poverty, baby boom, all sorts of issues that a large deficit of 9% simply want cut it with the EU whom require only 3% upon membership.
Scotland for me is a potential ticking time bomb and the SNP have been completely negligent and will put all blame on Westminster when shoittte hits the fan.
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I agree, the domestic record of the SNP is poor.
Out of curiosity, of all those issues that you point to, what exactly is Westminster doing to help improve the situation in Scotland?
I'm curious as to what the Union is actually bringing us as a nation.
Outwith a flag, obviously.
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comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 1 minute ago
also, The SNP are a disgrace that i do agree on
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In what sense?
Or are we just speaking generally?
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Disgrace is a bit strong. Their record this term has been rather poor to say the least. It's easy to list the failings - off the top of my head...
Scandals involving their Westminster whip and other MPs has shown them to be just like any other political party and not the whiter than white party they wish to appear.
Their insistence that the Named Person Act will be implemented - utter disgrace of a proposal and an affront to parents' civil liberties.
Unemployment. Increasing....
Education. Declining....
Health. NHS is a shambles. Nothing is visibly being done to fix it.
Tax. Let's not tax the people that can afford it.
Transport. Youssef is an arrogant and useless wee toaly.
That's pretty much the key devolved powers. And it'll only get much worse for the Scots if Indyref2 is called. Less time to do their days jobs and more time trying to make a name for themselves. Cvnts.
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comment by Zachsda(until March) (U1850)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Music Is My Time Machine!!! (U19525)
posted 3 seconds ago
Ivan,
The SNP's record to date on many issue's
The opportunistic nature of the party also and their band of freedom fighters and do-gooders that occupy George square etc and spout their hatred towards English rule and promise of milk n honey. They spout the same lack of evidence as the SNP party.
Oil Rich nation, my erse. that argument is done.
We have low wages, poverty, baby boom, all sorts of issues that a large deficit of 9% simply want cut it with the EU whom require only 3% upon membership.
Scotland for me is a potential ticking time bomb and the SNP have been completely negligent and will put all blame on Westminster when shoittte hits the fan.
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I agree, the domestic record of the SNP is poor.
Out of curiosity, of all those issues that you point to, what exactly is Westminster doing to help improve the situation in Scotland?
I'm curious as to what the Union is actually bringing us as a nation.
Outwith a flag, obviously.
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Why do people conflatesupport for Indy with support for SNP. Ffs it's last week in the louden all over again
I want us to make our own decisions under whichever hue of government we elect
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does that mean you are going to push us all over
These benefits include free access to the larger UK market, a common regulatory framework, integrated supply chains and a highly flexible labour market. As a result, Scottish companies trade more goods and services with the rest of the UK than with the rest of the world, exporting £36 billion of goods and services to the rest of the UK. Flexible labour movement between Scotland and the rest of the UK allows businesses to recruit the best people from across the whole UK, and the benefits of being in the UK have made Scotland an attractive destination for foreign investment.
The UK’s diverse economy protects Scotland from economic shocks and the volatility of oil prices. An integrated UK and a broader and more diverse tax base helps to maintain the stability of public spending in Scotland and smooth the impact of volatile sources of revenue, such as North Sea oil and gas.
since 1999, Scotland’s onshore economy has generated 8.3 per cent of the UK’s tax receipts, while at the same time Scotland has received an average of 9.4 per cent of UK public spending. Relative to the UK generating and spending £100, this means that Scotland’s onshore economy has generated £98 for the UK Exchequer, while receiving £112 of public spending.
put it this way, pfhuck loads lol
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These benefits include free access to the larger UK market, a common regulatory framework, integrated supply chains and a highly flexible labour market. As a result, Scottish companies trade more goods and services with the rest of the UK than with the rest of the world, exporting £36 billion of goods and services to the rest of the UK. Flexible labour movement between Scotland and the rest of the UK allows businesses to recruit the best people from across the whole UK, and the benefits of being in the UK have made Scotland an attractive destination for foreign investment.
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You are not grasping this....
Its OK to put a barrier up making that more problematic...
But its not OK to make it more complex in getting stuff done with Greece.
GEEZE Get with it mate
comment by Zachsda(until March) (U1850)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Music Is My Time Machine!!! (U19525)
posted 10 seconds ago
These benefits include free access to the larger UK market, a common regulatory framework, integrated supply chains and a highly flexible labour market. As a result, Scottish companies trade more goods and services with the rest of the UK than with the rest of the world, exporting £36 billion of goods and services to the rest of the UK. Flexible labour movement between Scotland and the rest of the UK allows businesses to recruit the best people from across the whole UK, and the benefits of being in the UK have made Scotland an attractive destination for foreign investment.
The UK’s diverse economy protects Scotland from economic shocks and the volatility of oil prices. An integrated UK and a broader and more diverse tax base helps to maintain the stability of public spending in Scotland and smooth the impact of volatile sources of revenue, such as North Sea oil and gas.
since 1999, Scotland’s onshore economy has generated 8.3 per cent of the UK’s tax receipts, while at the same time Scotland has received an average of 9.4 per cent of UK public spending. Relative to the UK generating and spending £100, this means that Scotland’s onshore economy has generated £98 for the UK Exchequer, while receiving £112 of public spending.
put it this way, pfhuck loads lol
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I'm going out on a limb here (I'm heather McCartney)
I'll assume that folk who buy whisky and shortbread will still want to buy whisky and shortbread
Don't. Elieve the self serving lying bastirts
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You should read "Brexit - What the hell happens next"
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comment by Zachsda(until March) (U1850)
posted 32 seconds ago
But its not OK to make it more complex in getting stuff done with Greece.
Pointy does that
Greece is a bad example as they pay great pensions, why fookin not the people worked we need to waken up why the fook should the rich control our buying power
Fook them and take control
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Ive no idea what you mean?
They have great pensions????
How will that help us do business with them??
“I think there are two ways in which people are controlled. First of all frighten people and secondly, demoralise them.”
Tony Benn
This sums up UK and world politics and I'm pretty much done with it.
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Politics is one blind leap of faith after another, guided by someone who likes to put forward the notion that he/she knows what they are doing, but is permanently completely winging it, with a set of promises that mean absolute zero because all they need is your mandate to govern then they can pretty much do whatever the fck they like.
They prey on your deepest insecurities and fears, and blame their failures on previous administrations while taking none of the blame themselves, while blinding you with an equal and opposite set of 'facts' and statistics from the other guy.
All the while they put themselves up for election to have their already oversized egos expanded further and to fill their pockets, giving jobs to their pals and pursuing their selfish agenda.
I wonder if any of these threads has ever changed anyone's mind on anything.
One of the most ironic aspects of Brexit is that the UK will actually have considerably less control/sovereignty.
Most EU conformity regulations are derived from universally accepted WTO standards. The EU simply copy and paste these into EU law.
In isolation, the UK will have much less influence. Compared to being a member of the largest trading bloc on the planet. But to facilitate trade around the globe will have to accept WTO standards anyway.
For example the EU won’t be able to purchase anything from the UK unless they continue to conform to EU standards.
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posted on 17/2/17
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 1 minute ago
QT has become the Jeremy Kyle show of political debate.
Yet I still tune in…
I have yet to see anything like an intelligent debate (even in the HoC’s) in regard to the UK’s future trading relationship(s).
Anyway, if you think Scotland has it bad, spare a thought for NI. We didn’t even have an Executive to produce a white paper, and are basically passengers in the Tory Brexitmobile.
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shouldnt spend all your time riding horses along a beach then
kidding everyone!!!! delete if you must
posted on 17/2/17
Ivan,
The SNP's record to date on many issue's
The opportunistic nature of the party also and their band of freedom fighters and do-gooders that occupy George square etc and spout their hatred towards English rule and promise of milk n honey. They spout the same lack of evidence as the SNP party.
Oil Rich nation, my erse. that argument is done.
We have low wages, poverty, baby boom, all sorts of issues that a large deficit of 9% simply want cut it with the EU whom require only 3% upon membership.
Scotland for me is a potential ticking time bomb and the SNP have been completely negligent and will put all blame on Westminster when shoittte hits the fan.
posted on 17/2/17
Duke - not what I'm saying at all.
The SNP created a white paper with their vision of an independent Scotland.
It was riddled with flaws and was very subjective.
However at least they'd thought of it, which the OP seemed to suggest they hadn't. Which is ridiculous really.
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posted on 17/2/17
comment by Music Is My Time Machine!!! (U19525)
posted 3 seconds ago
Ivan,
The SNP's record to date on many issue's
The opportunistic nature of the party also and their band of freedom fighters and do-gooders that occupy George square etc and spout their hatred towards English rule and promise of milk n honey. They spout the same lack of evidence as the SNP party.
Oil Rich nation, my erse. that argument is done.
We have low wages, poverty, baby boom, all sorts of issues that a large deficit of 9% simply want cut it with the EU whom require only 3% upon membership.
Scotland for me is a potential ticking time bomb and the SNP have been completely negligent and will put all blame on Westminster when shoittte hits the fan.
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I agree, the domestic record of the SNP is poor.
Out of curiosity, of all those issues that you point to, what exactly is Westminster doing to help improve the situation in Scotland?
I'm curious as to what the Union is actually bringing us as a nation.
Outwith a flag, obviously.
posted on 17/2/17
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posted on 17/2/17
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 1 minute ago
also, The SNP are a disgrace that i do agree on
____________________________________
In what sense?
Or are we just speaking generally?
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Disgrace is a bit strong. Their record this term has been rather poor to say the least. It's easy to list the failings - off the top of my head...
Scandals involving their Westminster whip and other MPs has shown them to be just like any other political party and not the whiter than white party they wish to appear.
Their insistence that the Named Person Act will be implemented - utter disgrace of a proposal and an affront to parents' civil liberties.
Unemployment. Increasing....
Education. Declining....
Health. NHS is a shambles. Nothing is visibly being done to fix it.
Tax. Let's not tax the people that can afford it.
Transport. Youssef is an arrogant and useless wee toaly.
That's pretty much the key devolved powers. And it'll only get much worse for the Scots if Indyref2 is called. Less time to do their days jobs and more time trying to make a name for themselves. Cvnts.
posted on 17/2/17
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posted on 17/2/17
comment by Zachsda(until March) (U1850)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Music Is My Time Machine!!! (U19525)
posted 3 seconds ago
Ivan,
The SNP's record to date on many issue's
The opportunistic nature of the party also and their band of freedom fighters and do-gooders that occupy George square etc and spout their hatred towards English rule and promise of milk n honey. They spout the same lack of evidence as the SNP party.
Oil Rich nation, my erse. that argument is done.
We have low wages, poverty, baby boom, all sorts of issues that a large deficit of 9% simply want cut it with the EU whom require only 3% upon membership.
Scotland for me is a potential ticking time bomb and the SNP have been completely negligent and will put all blame on Westminster when shoittte hits the fan.
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I agree, the domestic record of the SNP is poor.
Out of curiosity, of all those issues that you point to, what exactly is Westminster doing to help improve the situation in Scotland?
I'm curious as to what the Union is actually bringing us as a nation.
Outwith a flag, obviously.
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Why do people conflatesupport for Indy with support for SNP. Ffs it's last week in the louden all over again
I want us to make our own decisions under whichever hue of government we elect
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does that mean you are going to push us all over
posted on 17/2/17
These benefits include free access to the larger UK market, a common regulatory framework, integrated supply chains and a highly flexible labour market. As a result, Scottish companies trade more goods and services with the rest of the UK than with the rest of the world, exporting £36 billion of goods and services to the rest of the UK. Flexible labour movement between Scotland and the rest of the UK allows businesses to recruit the best people from across the whole UK, and the benefits of being in the UK have made Scotland an attractive destination for foreign investment.
The UK’s diverse economy protects Scotland from economic shocks and the volatility of oil prices. An integrated UK and a broader and more diverse tax base helps to maintain the stability of public spending in Scotland and smooth the impact of volatile sources of revenue, such as North Sea oil and gas.
since 1999, Scotland’s onshore economy has generated 8.3 per cent of the UK’s tax receipts, while at the same time Scotland has received an average of 9.4 per cent of UK public spending. Relative to the UK generating and spending £100, this means that Scotland’s onshore economy has generated £98 for the UK Exchequer, while receiving £112 of public spending.
put it this way, pfhuck loads lol
posted on 17/2/17
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posted on 17/2/17
These benefits include free access to the larger UK market, a common regulatory framework, integrated supply chains and a highly flexible labour market. As a result, Scottish companies trade more goods and services with the rest of the UK than with the rest of the world, exporting £36 billion of goods and services to the rest of the UK. Flexible labour movement between Scotland and the rest of the UK allows businesses to recruit the best people from across the whole UK, and the benefits of being in the UK have made Scotland an attractive destination for foreign investment.
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You are not grasping this....
Its OK to put a barrier up making that more problematic...
But its not OK to make it more complex in getting stuff done with Greece.
GEEZE Get with it mate
posted on 17/2/17
comment by Zachsda(until March) (U1850)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Music Is My Time Machine!!! (U19525)
posted 10 seconds ago
These benefits include free access to the larger UK market, a common regulatory framework, integrated supply chains and a highly flexible labour market. As a result, Scottish companies trade more goods and services with the rest of the UK than with the rest of the world, exporting £36 billion of goods and services to the rest of the UK. Flexible labour movement between Scotland and the rest of the UK allows businesses to recruit the best people from across the whole UK, and the benefits of being in the UK have made Scotland an attractive destination for foreign investment.
The UK’s diverse economy protects Scotland from economic shocks and the volatility of oil prices. An integrated UK and a broader and more diverse tax base helps to maintain the stability of public spending in Scotland and smooth the impact of volatile sources of revenue, such as North Sea oil and gas.
since 1999, Scotland’s onshore economy has generated 8.3 per cent of the UK’s tax receipts, while at the same time Scotland has received an average of 9.4 per cent of UK public spending. Relative to the UK generating and spending £100, this means that Scotland’s onshore economy has generated £98 for the UK Exchequer, while receiving £112 of public spending.
put it this way, pfhuck loads lol
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I'm going out on a limb here (I'm heather McCartney)
I'll assume that folk who buy whisky and shortbread will still want to buy whisky and shortbread
Don't. Elieve the self serving lying bastirts
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You should read "Brexit - What the hell happens next"
posted on 17/2/17
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posted on 17/2/17
comment by Zachsda(until March) (U1850)
posted 32 seconds ago
But its not OK to make it more complex in getting stuff done with Greece.
Pointy does that
Greece is a bad example as they pay great pensions, why fookin not the people worked we need to waken up why the fook should the rich control our buying power
Fook them and take control
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Ive no idea what you mean?
They have great pensions????
How will that help us do business with them??
posted on 17/2/17
“I think there are two ways in which people are controlled. First of all frighten people and secondly, demoralise them.”
Tony Benn
This sums up UK and world politics and I'm pretty much done with it.
posted on 17/2/17
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posted on 17/2/17
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posted on 17/2/17
Politics is one blind leap of faith after another, guided by someone who likes to put forward the notion that he/she knows what they are doing, but is permanently completely winging it, with a set of promises that mean absolute zero because all they need is your mandate to govern then they can pretty much do whatever the fck they like.
They prey on your deepest insecurities and fears, and blame their failures on previous administrations while taking none of the blame themselves, while blinding you with an equal and opposite set of 'facts' and statistics from the other guy.
All the while they put themselves up for election to have their already oversized egos expanded further and to fill their pockets, giving jobs to their pals and pursuing their selfish agenda.
posted on 17/2/17
I wonder if any of these threads has ever changed anyone's mind on anything.
posted on 17/2/17
One of the most ironic aspects of Brexit is that the UK will actually have considerably less control/sovereignty.
Most EU conformity regulations are derived from universally accepted WTO standards. The EU simply copy and paste these into EU law.
In isolation, the UK will have much less influence. Compared to being a member of the largest trading bloc on the planet. But to facilitate trade around the globe will have to accept WTO standards anyway.
For example the EU won’t be able to purchase anything from the UK unless they continue to conform to EU standards.
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