I may buck the trend here but for me I wouldn't want him back for a third time. We as a club have moved on and, while appreciating everything he has previously achieved with us, I don't think he is the man to be given a 3 year contract and who will keep us up and stabilise our PL position.
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Gonna love watching JG and Nev on here if this happens.....talk about meltdown
I was no fan of Pearson for much of the 14/15 season where I thought he had us playing too safe for much of the year. His spell at Derby wasn't great either and further emphasised his tactical limitations.....but.....we need a firefighter. We could do worse.....
Then again, we could do better as well
According to some reports a lot of the players want him back also according to other reports they are running the gig so we will see.
I was gutted when he left so I'd happily have him back. I can understand reluctance because of his personality but for me football is more important.
I never cared about his media persona, his grumpiness or even his embarrassing outbursts towards journalists. None of that mattered to me because it didn't take anything away from what he did behind the scenes and how he developed a team with a team spirit capable of overachieving.
I also think he will have learnt a few lessons from what happened and also what happened at Derby. I recall him questioning himself and his own methods when talking after Derby and he suggested he'd be looking at where he can improve. People can change when they get to the point where they don't like the way they behave and consciously do something to change it and Pearson is someone who is always looking to better himself.
If Pearson is willing to talk then I say man up let bygones be bygones and get back the man responsible for building the foundations for the last season's amazing achievement.
comment by DDDDhasleftthebuilding (U13248)
posted 4 minutes ago
I may buck the trend here but for me I wouldn't want him back for a third time. We as a club have moved on and, while appreciating everything he has previously achieved with us, I don't think he is the man to be given a 3 year contract and who will keep us up and stabilise our PL position.
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I'd be offering a short term deal until the end of the season and see what happens. No need to be committing to contracts now.
Haha never gonna happen but love to hear Nev's conspiracy theories spiral into orbit on this one.
Have we forgot that Pearson was completely useless for about 3/4 of the 14/15 season? People seem to remember the last 9 games but not the majority of the 29 before them.
For me, his performance at Derby shows he's on his way down and probably needs a lower Championship/ top of League One job to re-establish himself.
In all honesty, I'd rather have Alan Pardew. I don't think Pardew is a 'good' manager, but he's a streaky manager and one who generally hits the ground running. Look at his record with Newcastle and Palace - he started off well with both. It's the second season when things fall apart, but right now we need to stay up. I'm not sure Pearson can repeat the great escape. Pardew possibly could.
Stringer just pooed his pants...
Imagine Stringers face if it happens......
Foxy - I think what Pearson has, and what helped in the great escape, is the ability to motivate when it really matters. That backs against the wall fighting spirit was implemented by him, love or hate the guy, you have to acknowledge that
The reason Ranieri has failed so much for me this season is because he's unable to cultivate that kind of fight when the chips are down.
I wouldn't want Pearson on a long term contract, but I'm struggling to see who else can kick these players up the backside or put an arm around them.
I would never doubt that NP has good motivational skills. But if motivation is the only requirement, why not keep Shakespeare in charge until the end of the season? He has the added benefit of knowing all of the players in the squad and was part of both the Pearson and Ranieri eras.
I just don't think that NP is cut out for the Premier League. He was out of his depth for large parts of the 14/15 season. As a short term firefighter, he could keep us up but I think someone like Shakespeare, Pardew or even Mancini could do that. For me, the Pearson era is over, we need to move on.
comment by Foxello (U6985)
posted 39 minutes ago
Have we forgot that Pearson was completely useless for about 3/4 of the 14/15 season? People seem to remember the last 9 games but not the majority of the 29 before them.
For me, his performance at Derby shows he's on his way down and probably needs a lower Championship/ top of League One job to re-establish himself.
In all honesty, I'd rather have Alan Pardew. I don't think Pardew is a 'good' manager, but he's a streaky manager and one who generally hits the ground running. Look at his record with Newcastle and Palace - he started off well with both. It's the second season when things fall apart, but right now we need to stay up. I'm not sure Pearson can repeat the great escape. Pardew possibly could.
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No I've not forgotten but people also learn with experience, this is why managers usually get better as they get older. Pearson isn't someone who rests on his laurels and always looks to improve himself so why couldn't he learn from his past tactical errors? He can also learn now from working with Shakey again, who has no doubt learnt a lot from Ranieri and assist with tactics. Although some of Ranieri's tactics this season were questionable, what he did last season was what Shakey will bring to the party.
Would get Rowett in immediately ,think he is best option.
Rowett would be a sensible choice, but lets remember Smugkins last managerial recommendation to the board was Neil Lennon.
Thankfully the owners went for option number 2 - Claudio Ranieri
Have we forgot that Pearson was completely useless for about 3/4 of the 14/15 season? People seem to remember the last 9 games but not the majority of the 29 before them.
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I seem to remember that although we were not winning, we were matching other teams if not out playing them, just got an awful "rub of the green", until the last quarter of the season.
We ended the season on title winning form and it carried through to the following season.
Unlike the woeful performances for most of this season.
I have to go with what has been mentioned above-bring back Nigel Pearson for the remainder of this campaign.
Nigel Pearson is one of those typical english arrogant overated manager who talks a good game and his only quality is motivating players. You need more at the highest level than motivating. He is tactical clueless like most english managers. You need a foreign manager, look to Hull, they had Phelan who was clueless and now they have that portuguese geezer at the helm.
comment by The Mane Man (U19731)
posted 2 minutes ago
Nigel Pearson is one of those typical english arrogant overated manager who talks a good game and his only quality is motivating players. You need more at the highest level than motivating. He is tactical clueless like most english managers. You need a foreign manager, look to Hull, they had Phelan who was clueless and now they have that portuguese geezer at the helm.
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Most English managers are arrogant and overrated.......
What a ridiculously wide sweeping blinkered view, there are numerous managers from these shores that are tactically adept and confident in their abilities.
And I find it hard to take your comments seriously when your most successful managers have all been from these shores.
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comment by The Mane Man (U19731)
posted 3 minutes ago
Nigel Pearson is one of those typical english arrogant overated manager who talks a good game and his only quality is motivating players. You need more at the highest level than motivating. He is tactical clueless like most english managers. You need a foreign manager, look to Hull, they had Phelan who was clueless and now they have that portuguese geezer at the helm.
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That's precisely what he would brought back for-to motivate these players. We need someone who can quickly acquaint himself to the surroundings (and in his case-his former surroundings).
In the cold light of day CR has gone.
We are now left with Shakey and a team of players
who will go out on to the pitch knowing exactly
what they have to do tactically.
No more strange system changes etc.
Back to last years system but this time the
penny has dropped and the commitment
will be there.
Let's go to Saints away.
Marty James was on the team sheet and out on the
pitch warming up, when CR changed the team
and formation 3 at the back.
This had barely been rehearsed.
30 min into game he changed it back.
Then tried it against Chelsea.
Footballers can't cope with this.
I for one am now convinced we can come
good without a manager other than Shakey
who knows what's best for our players.
Marty didn't play by the way and a week later he is out on loan and getting man of match at Barnsley 😩
Matty... predictive text 😳🦊🦊🦊🦊
You should bring Pearson back, then if you escape relegation, sack him and replace with Ranieri.
Short term until end of season only.......
Craig Shakespeare
Nigel Pearson
Martin O'Neill
O'Neill would be a good shout on this basis, for him and us. A great motivator.
We can't keep on running back to Nigel Pearson whenever things go wrong. And let's not forget that he lost it a bit during our first season back in the Prem - although to be fair did keep spirit and fitness high to enable the great escape - before inspiring absolutely nothing from the Derby players. Has he recovered from his previous, increasingly erratic behaviour? If so then why hasn't he been on anyone else's radar?
I can't see that Pearson returning, either to the end of the season or otherwise, is the answer here. I'd much rather see Gary Rowett come in and everyone move on.
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posted on 26/2/17
I may buck the trend here but for me I wouldn't want him back for a third time. We as a club have moved on and, while appreciating everything he has previously achieved with us, I don't think he is the man to be given a 3 year contract and who will keep us up and stabilise our PL position.
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posted on 26/2/17
Gonna love watching JG and Nev on here if this happens.....talk about meltdown
I was no fan of Pearson for much of the 14/15 season where I thought he had us playing too safe for much of the year. His spell at Derby wasn't great either and further emphasised his tactical limitations.....but.....we need a firefighter. We could do worse.....
Then again, we could do better as well
posted on 26/2/17
According to some reports a lot of the players want him back also according to other reports they are running the gig so we will see.
posted on 26/2/17
I was gutted when he left so I'd happily have him back. I can understand reluctance because of his personality but for me football is more important.
I never cared about his media persona, his grumpiness or even his embarrassing outbursts towards journalists. None of that mattered to me because it didn't take anything away from what he did behind the scenes and how he developed a team with a team spirit capable of overachieving.
I also think he will have learnt a few lessons from what happened and also what happened at Derby. I recall him questioning himself and his own methods when talking after Derby and he suggested he'd be looking at where he can improve. People can change when they get to the point where they don't like the way they behave and consciously do something to change it and Pearson is someone who is always looking to better himself.
If Pearson is willing to talk then I say man up let bygones be bygones and get back the man responsible for building the foundations for the last season's amazing achievement.
posted on 26/2/17
comment by DDDDhasleftthebuilding (U13248)
posted 4 minutes ago
I may buck the trend here but for me I wouldn't want him back for a third time. We as a club have moved on and, while appreciating everything he has previously achieved with us, I don't think he is the man to be given a 3 year contract and who will keep us up and stabilise our PL position.
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I'd be offering a short term deal until the end of the season and see what happens. No need to be committing to contracts now.
posted on 26/2/17
Haha never gonna happen but love to hear Nev's conspiracy theories spiral into orbit on this one.
posted on 26/2/17
Have we forgot that Pearson was completely useless for about 3/4 of the 14/15 season? People seem to remember the last 9 games but not the majority of the 29 before them.
For me, his performance at Derby shows he's on his way down and probably needs a lower Championship/ top of League One job to re-establish himself.
In all honesty, I'd rather have Alan Pardew. I don't think Pardew is a 'good' manager, but he's a streaky manager and one who generally hits the ground running. Look at his record with Newcastle and Palace - he started off well with both. It's the second season when things fall apart, but right now we need to stay up. I'm not sure Pearson can repeat the great escape. Pardew possibly could.
posted on 26/2/17
Stringer just pooed his pants...
posted on 26/2/17
Imagine Stringers face if it happens......
Foxy - I think what Pearson has, and what helped in the great escape, is the ability to motivate when it really matters. That backs against the wall fighting spirit was implemented by him, love or hate the guy, you have to acknowledge that
The reason Ranieri has failed so much for me this season is because he's unable to cultivate that kind of fight when the chips are down.
I wouldn't want Pearson on a long term contract, but I'm struggling to see who else can kick these players up the backside or put an arm around them.
posted on 26/2/17
I would never doubt that NP has good motivational skills. But if motivation is the only requirement, why not keep Shakespeare in charge until the end of the season? He has the added benefit of knowing all of the players in the squad and was part of both the Pearson and Ranieri eras.
I just don't think that NP is cut out for the Premier League. He was out of his depth for large parts of the 14/15 season. As a short term firefighter, he could keep us up but I think someone like Shakespeare, Pardew or even Mancini could do that. For me, the Pearson era is over, we need to move on.
posted on 26/2/17
comment by Foxello (U6985)
posted 39 minutes ago
Have we forgot that Pearson was completely useless for about 3/4 of the 14/15 season? People seem to remember the last 9 games but not the majority of the 29 before them.
For me, his performance at Derby shows he's on his way down and probably needs a lower Championship/ top of League One job to re-establish himself.
In all honesty, I'd rather have Alan Pardew. I don't think Pardew is a 'good' manager, but he's a streaky manager and one who generally hits the ground running. Look at his record with Newcastle and Palace - he started off well with both. It's the second season when things fall apart, but right now we need to stay up. I'm not sure Pearson can repeat the great escape. Pardew possibly could.
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No I've not forgotten but people also learn with experience, this is why managers usually get better as they get older. Pearson isn't someone who rests on his laurels and always looks to improve himself so why couldn't he learn from his past tactical errors? He can also learn now from working with Shakey again, who has no doubt learnt a lot from Ranieri and assist with tactics. Although some of Ranieri's tactics this season were questionable, what he did last season was what Shakey will bring to the party.
posted on 26/2/17
Would get Rowett in immediately ,think he is best option.
posted on 26/2/17
Rowett would be a sensible choice, but lets remember Smugkins last managerial recommendation to the board was Neil Lennon.
Thankfully the owners went for option number 2 - Claudio Ranieri
posted on 26/2/17
Have we forgot that Pearson was completely useless for about 3/4 of the 14/15 season? People seem to remember the last 9 games but not the majority of the 29 before them.
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I seem to remember that although we were not winning, we were matching other teams if not out playing them, just got an awful "rub of the green", until the last quarter of the season.
We ended the season on title winning form and it carried through to the following season.
Unlike the woeful performances for most of this season.
posted on 26/2/17
I have to go with what has been mentioned above-bring back Nigel Pearson for the remainder of this campaign.
posted on 26/2/17
Nigel Pearson is one of those typical english arrogant overated manager who talks a good game and his only quality is motivating players. You need more at the highest level than motivating. He is tactical clueless like most english managers. You need a foreign manager, look to Hull, they had Phelan who was clueless and now they have that portuguese geezer at the helm.
posted on 26/2/17
comment by The Mane Man (U19731)
posted 2 minutes ago
Nigel Pearson is one of those typical english arrogant overated manager who talks a good game and his only quality is motivating players. You need more at the highest level than motivating. He is tactical clueless like most english managers. You need a foreign manager, look to Hull, they had Phelan who was clueless and now they have that portuguese geezer at the helm.
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Most English managers are arrogant and overrated.......
What a ridiculously wide sweeping blinkered view, there are numerous managers from these shores that are tactically adept and confident in their abilities.
And I find it hard to take your comments seriously when your most successful managers have all been from these shores.
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posted on 26/2/17
comment by The Mane Man (U19731)
posted 3 minutes ago
Nigel Pearson is one of those typical english arrogant overated manager who talks a good game and his only quality is motivating players. You need more at the highest level than motivating. He is tactical clueless like most english managers. You need a foreign manager, look to Hull, they had Phelan who was clueless and now they have that portuguese geezer at the helm.
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That's precisely what he would brought back for-to motivate these players. We need someone who can quickly acquaint himself to the surroundings (and in his case-his former surroundings).
posted on 26/2/17
In the cold light of day CR has gone.
We are now left with Shakey and a team of players
who will go out on to the pitch knowing exactly
what they have to do tactically.
No more strange system changes etc.
Back to last years system but this time the
penny has dropped and the commitment
will be there.
Let's go to Saints away.
Marty James was on the team sheet and out on the
pitch warming up, when CR changed the team
and formation 3 at the back.
This had barely been rehearsed.
30 min into game he changed it back.
Then tried it against Chelsea.
Footballers can't cope with this.
I for one am now convinced we can come
good without a manager other than Shakey
who knows what's best for our players.
posted on 26/2/17
Marty didn't play by the way and a week later he is out on loan and getting man of match at Barnsley 😩
posted on 26/2/17
Matty... predictive text 😳🦊🦊🦊🦊
posted on 26/2/17
You should bring Pearson back, then if you escape relegation, sack him and replace with Ranieri.
posted on 26/2/17
Woy now clear second fav
posted on 26/2/17
Short term until end of season only.......
Craig Shakespeare
Nigel Pearson
Martin O'Neill
O'Neill would be a good shout on this basis, for him and us. A great motivator.
posted on 26/2/17
We can't keep on running back to Nigel Pearson whenever things go wrong. And let's not forget that he lost it a bit during our first season back in the Prem - although to be fair did keep spirit and fitness high to enable the great escape - before inspiring absolutely nothing from the Derby players. Has he recovered from his previous, increasingly erratic behaviour? If so then why hasn't he been on anyone else's radar?
I can't see that Pearson returning, either to the end of the season or otherwise, is the answer here. I'd much rather see Gary Rowett come in and everyone move on.
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