comment by Be A Grizzly (U2206)
posted 4 minutes ago
To KFC & Afridi :

Whilst I feel for you having to defend your religion (which you seem to do very well btw) when idiots hijack it to justify whatever they want, I personally think it a bit naive of you both to say the verses in the Qura'an cannot be misinterpreted, when they quite clearly ARE being by many terrorist groups/individuals.

On a side note, I find it strange that Muslims always seem to put pbuh (Praise Be Unto Him) after mentioning Muhammed / The Prophet. It smacks of superstition, as if something awful will happen if they don't put pbuh, which is ludicrous in this day and age.
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There is a difference between misinterpreting something and purposefully manipulating text.

The rules around killing are as clear as day, only somebody who has never read anything to do with Islam would say others. The Quran is there to be read, you can't make assumptions about what you think it says or means.

(Pbuh) is a sign of respect not superstition.

When people write RIP it's a sign of respect, they're not being superstitious just in case they don't rest is in peace.

Adolfo care to answer my questions or is this just one way???

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comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 13 minutes ago
There's a lot of people who interpret it violenty, whether they're correct or not is pretty irrelevant if they're brainwashing thousands of peolpe and inspiring terrorists.
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You don't think people in this country are brain washed into allowing our government to illegally invade other countries?

This thread needs more RDD

comment by Adolf Wenger OUT! (U3245)
posted 33 seconds ago

what question?


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About Iraq.

comment by Robb Jimmy Hustle (U21234)
posted less than a minute ago
This thread needs more RDD
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Log out and log back in then............

comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 13 minutes ago
There's a lot of people who interpret it violenty, whether they're correct or not is pretty irrelevant if they're brainwashing thousands of peolpe and inspiring terrorists.
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You don't think people in this country are brain washed into allowing our government to illegally invade other countries?
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No, because the majority don't want to invade other countries

comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Robb Jimmy Hustle (U21234)
posted less than a minute ago
This thread needs more RDD
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Log out and log back in then............
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Between him, Hafi and VC I can't remember all my passwords

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 48 minutes ago
It's about power and control;
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Religion summed up nicely
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*Organised* religion can be used as a tool to secure and cement power and control, just as political and economic ideologies like nationalism, populism and libertarian capitalism can, yes.

comment by Robb Jimmy Hustle (U21234)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Robb Jimmy Hustle (U21234)
posted less than a minute ago
This thread needs more RDD
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Log out and log back in then............
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Between him, Hafi and VC I can't remember all my passwords
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If you were truly Hafi you'd have some kind of mathematical way of remembering.

comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by Robb Jimmy Hustle (U21234)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Robb Jimmy Hustle (U21234)
posted less than a minute ago
This thread needs more RDD
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Log out and log back in then............
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Between him, Hafi and VC I can't remember all my passwords
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If you were truly Hafi you'd have some kind of mathematical way of remembering.
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Statistically speaking you're right

comment by Robb Jimmy Hustle (U21234)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 13 minutes ago
There's a lot of people who interpret it violenty, whether they're correct or not is pretty irrelevant if they're brainwashing thousands of peolpe and inspiring terrorists.
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You don't think people in this country are brain washed into allowing our government to illegally invade other countries?
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No, because the majority don't want to invade other countries
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Don't want to or just can't be ar5ed caring?

comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Adolf Wenger OUT! (U3245)
posted 33 seconds ago

what question?


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About Iraq.
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Are you British KFC?

comment by Be A Grizzly (U2206)




posted 5 minutes ago



To KFC & Afridi :

Whilst I feel for you having to defend your religion (which you seem to do very well btw) when idiots hijack it to justify whatever they want, I personally think it a bit naive of you both to say the verses in the Qura'an cannot be misinterpreted, when they quite clearly ARE being by many terrorist groups/individuals.
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This is actually well put forward. We as Muslims do need to accept currently there are huge flaws in how the Islam is being interpreted by these mindless fools. There are these so called scholars who do hate preach and are able to manipulate minds like the idiot yesterday.

Just like Adolf they are using lines from the Quran to suit there agenda.

We do need to accept we have a problem with interpretation but the bigger issue lies with countries like Saudi, Qatar etc who are happy to let this problem continue and will not be held accountable.

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comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 13 minutes ago
There's a lot of people who interpret it violenty, whether they're correct or not is pretty irrelevant if they're brainwashing thousands of peolpe and inspiring terrorists.
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You don't think people in this country are brain washed into allowing our government to illegally invade other countries?
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We don't 'allow' our government to do this. There's never been a referendum on such things. So suggesting anyone has been brainwashed is a bit daft.

comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 13 minutes ago
There's a lot of people who interpret it violenty, whether they're correct or not is pretty irrelevant if they're brainwashing thousands of peolpe and inspiring terrorists.
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You don't think people in this country are brain washed into allowing our government to illegally invade other countries?
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Citizens aren't responsible for the governments actions, most people don't support these wars. in the case of the iraq war it was based on a lie and everyone knows that was a mess. Do you realise that the Iraqi government is asking US/UK and allies to help them fight against ISIS? or that the syrian government have killed more of their own people than the west have. I said this on another thread, if it's all about US/UK intervention then why do most of these attacks happen in the middle east against their own muslim people? This ideology has been around a long time before these wars started, and sunni/shiite have been killing each other for centuries and still do.

comment by Obers (U3904)
posted 1 hour, 17 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 13 minutes ago
and used as an excuse for psychos to kill and die for a cause.
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And if you abolished religion these Psychos would just disappear...Poof!....gone...No more

Utopian thinking.
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Did I say the psychos would disappear? I'm saying you remove the reason for them to have a sick purpose
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It's not a reason.

Sociopathy and those with sociopathic tendencies can find a cause in an extremism attached to any religion, philosophy or political agenda.

A social maladjustment or vulnerability to sociopathic thought comes first; the attachment to an extremist ideology or indoctrination comes second.

comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 13 minutes ago
There's a lot of people who interpret it violenty, whether they're correct or not is pretty irrelevant if they're brainwashing thousands of peolpe and inspiring terrorists.
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You don't think people in this country are brain washed into allowing our government to illegally invade other countries?
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Citizens aren't responsible for the governments actions, most people don't support these wars. in the case of the iraq war it was based on a lie and everyone knows that was a mess. Do you realise that the Iraqi government is asking US/UK and allies to help them fight against ISIS? or that the syrian government have killed more of their own people than the west have. I said this on another thread, if it's all about US/UK intervention then why do most of these attacks happen in the middle east against their own muslim people? This ideology has been around a long time before these wars started, and sunni/shiite have been killing each other for centuries and still do.
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If KFC is British he's just as culpable for those attacks if he's somehow stupidly thinking the people of a country can control its government.

comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 2 minutes ago
Everyone knows it's just a minority of nutters but for every one who attacks people I'd imagine there's a lot more who believe in the ideology but aren't willing to commit murder for it. Whether they represent the religion or not, they do it in the name of religion and there's only one religion that has this problem. it's the elephant in the room where everyone knows it but mainstream PC society can't admit it.
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No it isn't only one religion which has this problem.

Buddhists are committing genocide in Burma as we speak.

Hindu Tamil Tigers are the pioneers of suicide bombings and to date have carried out the most suicide bombings in the world

Jewish settlers in the West Bank continuously kill women and children and innocent men because they claim God gave them that land.

George Bush said his illegal invasion of Iraq was something God told him to do and he killed millions.

You think it's only Muslims because your brain has been colonised by hate.

Also IF you do your research you will find that people like Bin Laden use foreign policy as an excuse to murder not religion.

Bin Laden him self is quoted as saying he accepts he can't kill people under religious but he'd do away with it because western countries kill people indiscrimatly as well.

Do you want me to get the quote? Just say the word.
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It's also not just religion.

People commit acts of terrorism in the name of political ideologies, animal rights, the environment, social justice, tribal beliefs, personal philosophies, sociocultural beliefs, etc. etc.

comment by (Kash) I'm the Mané, I'm the Mané - Justice4Gaza (U1108)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Be A Grizzly (U2206)




posted 5 minutes ago



To KFC & Afridi :

Whilst I feel for you having to defend your religion (which you seem to do very well btw) when idiots hijack it to justify whatever they want, I personally think it a bit naive of you both to say the verses in the Qura'an cannot be misinterpreted, when they quite clearly ARE being by many terrorist groups/individuals.
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This is actually well put forward. We as Muslims do need to accept currently there are huge flaws in how the Islam is being interpreted by these mindless fools. There are these so called scholars who do hate preach and are able to manipulate minds like the idiot yesterday.

Just like Adolf they are using lines from the Quran to suit there agenda.

We do need to accept we have a problem with interpretation but the bigger issue lies with countries like Saudi, Qatar etc who are happy to let this problem continue and will not be held accountable.
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Brilliant post you aren't burying your head like that idiot KFC.

Good to see someone educated with a proper grasp of what's going on, KFC is fingers in the ears laaaa laaaaa not listening attitude doesn't help people understand he comes across as a terrorist sympathiser to be honest.

Excellent post

comment by LQ (U6305)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 13 minutes ago
There's a lot of people who interpret it violenty, whether they're correct or not is pretty irrelevant if they're brainwashing thousands of peolpe and inspiring terrorists.
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You don't think people in this country are brain washed into allowing our government to illegally invade other countries?
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Citizens aren't responsible for the governments actions, most people don't support these wars. in the case of the iraq war it was based on a lie and everyone knows that was a mess. Do you realise that the Iraqi government is asking US/UK and allies to help them fight against ISIS? or that the syrian government have killed more of their own people than the west have. I said this on another thread, if it's all about US/UK intervention then why do most of these attacks happen in the middle east against their own muslim people? This ideology has been around a long time before these wars started, and sunni/shiite have been killing each other for centuries and still do.
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If KFC is British he's just as culpable for those attacks if he's somehow stupidly thinking the people of a country can control its government.
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Erm people are totally manipulating what I said!

I didn't say civilians are culpable not at all. Enough people have seen me comment on other threads to know I have never blamed a civilian population with the exception of Israeli settlers who are criminals under international law and are armed.

My point was about brain washing! As usual my point has been manipulated to mean something else.

he comes across as a terrorist sympathiser to be honest.
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Don't agree with that, he just seems defensive and unwilling to accept that people who were brought up to believe what he was can grow up to interpret the same information differently and use it to wage war.

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