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Why are the left against Brexit

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posted on 30/4/17

comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 2 minutes ago
Just Shoot

Unfortunately under funding and cuts are self inflicted. Was discussed on Marr this morning with May, and when he pointed out that nurse's pay hasn't changed in 14 years, was met with the usual meaningless soundbites.

He also raised the point that many nurses are having to use food banks. Which May again glossed over.

The government aren't even looking after existing staff never mind investing in training.
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Bloody disgusting if you ask me.

I've been quite fortunate, in that I have travelled quite a lot and lived in two other countries, and the thing that stands out to me the most is health and education. We are so lucky in that it is free, but we really should be investing heavily in to it.

I don't necessarily think it needs a huge amount of extra investment, just wiser investment. Both sectors seem to waste money on things that aren't really necessary or become obsolete quickly. Shame.

Whenever I'm speaking to colleagues around the world and banter starts with regard to 'what country is better'. I just bring up, 'A society cannot be civilised if health and education are for the privileged'. End of discussion.
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UK debt is now up to 89% of GDP.

With the inevitable eye watering costs, and long term implications of brexit, the government will be forced into making more public spending cuts. Currently up to 3 & 6%.

We're all going to be paying for this mess for many years to come.

posted on 30/4/17

comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
TBAB

I did. The clue is in the name. "Union"

Of course the EU is going to look out for it's members. The point he was making was the guise that this election gives May a stronger mandate. More nonsense.

The Tories could have every single seat in Westminster and it wouldn't have any relevance to a50 negotiatons.

It took the EU27 less than four minutes to agree their negotiating position, as thanks to the UK government's incompetence, May revealed their intentions during her speech at the Tory party conference last year.

The UK now subject to a process they can't control, in an impossible timeline. Facing an opponent who are larger, stronger, and have less to lose than us.

Still keep believing in those fairies and unicorns
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OK

Do you just ignore the leave vote altogether, like lib dems and Blair want, and demand a second vote?

If we get a poor deal from the Eu, do you back a vote on that......by the way, can the UK vote remain or back in sometime?
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Whatever trade deal is eventually struck, it will not be able to replicate membership. No FTA ever could.

Sadly there are too many people in the country who (1) want out, (2) suits the wealthy utilising tax avoidance schemes, and (3) have been duped by 40+yrs of misinformation.

At least the EU27 are mindful of the implications to northern Ireland, placing a resolution front and centre. Whilst the Tories couldn't care less. As evidenced by the solitary paragraph dedicated to NI on the very last page of their Brexit white paper.

posted on 30/4/17

My union Nipsa is far broad left, and backed brexit as did some leftist activists, and dissident republicans.

Eamon McCann and PBP voted leave too, so not al! About little England, or the right.

posted on 30/4/17

Plenty of Euroscepticism from all sides of the political spectrum.

Just that in the UK, anti EU sentiment has been driven by Ukip, and right wing elements within the conservative party, and associated press.

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