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The Future..more Grimsby than Guardiola

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posted on 24/5/17

John, your comment there falls into three parts, so let me try to address each of them:

The first paragraph about Pearson: I mention him only because pretty much all of your articles throughout the last few years have gone back to him There's a jibe at him in every article you make, practically every comment that you do. That's why I can see he still matters to you - or at least the fact that so many people disagree with your perception of him. But also, your view has been strongly against everything that Pearson stood for - anything that people could credit Pearson with you've done your absolute utmost to take the opposite view: Ranieri's tactical expertise, his warmth with the media, good points and I'm no disagreeing with them, but hyped up so massively in your posts. Then when Ranieri got the chop you posted like it was a personal insult to your anti-Pearson rhetoric. And now, at the cusp of Pearson's trusty number 2 (and as such a justification of his regime) potentially becoming a permanent appointment, we end up here.

Second, the bulk of your comment. All a legitimate position. Not one that I necessarily agree with but I respect it. You want the best to progress for the club, snatching the opportunity while it's here. I think we're probably better off served progressing slower. Who's right? History suggests we don't know but it makes for an interesting debate if done without agenda.

But your last point: You're exercising your right not to be part of a short-sighted decision, by making a horribly short-sighted decision not to support the club any more? Well then what on earth were you supporting the club for all those years in the first place? When we went down to League 1? Did the club not matter to you then? Were you going through the motions? Is making a stand like this going to make absolutely any difference whatsoever aside from personally to you and yours being there or otherwise? Does the club really need your sort of ambition for you to support it, rather than maybe being frustrated at the direction of the club but carrying on regardless? Beyond everything you've written over the years I never, ever had you down as a quitter. Not like this. There forever, giving your view, but Leicester City was your club at the end of the day and nothing would change that. I must have been wrong. You really must see Leicester City differently to me.

posted on 24/5/17

Ranieri linked to the Watford and Palace jobs, you may find your new team to support soon.

posted on 24/5/17

You know, when I think about it I can't really say why I'm so bothered by this. I suppose I'm disappointed more than anything. Ultimately, if you feel you have to relinquish your support for the club, you're right - it's your choice, it's your decision. It's not something I could do, but so be it.

Coming back if and when the good times return could be an awkward moment though.

posted on 24/5/17

Dunge
Completely agree with your last comments, it is entirely Johns' decision but as you say, after supporting our club through everything we have been through over the last 25 years then throwing his toys out of the pram now really seems bizarre.
Hand on heart I cant think of any scenario where I soul stop going to games.
Each to their own, but as you say IF JG decides to return then I would imagine some thick skin will be required.

If this was a fan of another club giving up on their club after so many years I am sure JG soul have something to say about that.

UTF

posted on 24/5/17

JG
I think we all get the raesons why youve given up your season tickets, Is it to do with King Claudios sacking ?
Youve given many raesons for objecting to Claudios sacking. Think we all agree that it was done badly but you seem to miss one salient point. At that time we were on the verge of the relegation zone ( in fact we were in the relegation zone prior to Shakeys first game) We were on a one way ticket to the championship and had just lost to Milwall in the fa cup.
Think youve been watching football long enough to know how it works. Bad results/ form inevitably lead to managers betting the chop regardless of acheivements in previous seasons.
Just seems strange that after some of the things weve been through
Fank Mclintocks regime
Brian Hamilton/David Pleat eras (dark days)
Peter Failure era
Administration
The bland championship days pp (pre Pearson) culminating in relegation to L1

Yet you decide to give up support following a season of CLQF and mid table prem
The cynic in me tells me that youve posted this now to try and influence the owners impending managerial decision. You dont want Shakey , he's associated with the hated NP even if he is also associated with King Claudios era

And Nev differing opinions are surely what this board
is all about and long may it continue.I'll say one thing pesky gee has certainly got some responses some from posters who havent posted for a long while.
Ive been reading this site for a long while and was thinking about signing up and contributing JG nas finally convinced me to do it.

Keep posting on this site. Ive looked at other clubs sites and the lack of posts on many prem club sites is embarrasing compared to the Leicester site

UTF

posted on 24/5/17

No man is biggger than the club.

Except Johngee.

I can't believe the club chose continued success and protection of their investment over pleasing John.

Thinking about what they've done, I may have to hand my season ticket in. I could cope with the Ranieri decision, but how they've treated JG is beyond the pale.

Personally I think John just can't handle the fact he called it wrong. Therapy will help him come to terms with this.

comment by Vulpes (U6011)

posted on 24/5/17

Given the title of Dunge's article immediately below this, I'm disappointed that JG didn't title it 'Tough personal decisions'.

posted on 24/5/17

This topic reminds me of the bloke who lived in Wigston and used to call Radio Leicester all the while to moan. He eventually stopped suporting City and got a season ticket at Notts Forest because that offered him 'Better value for money'.

Wonder if he still goes to the City Ground now or if he eventually crawled back to watch Leicester...?

posted on 24/5/17

"Leicester 'til I die"........and I suspect most on here will feel the same, even though we don't always agree with the club's actions. UTF

comment by Jobyfox (U4183)

posted on 24/5/17

"He (Pearson) has no bearing on decisions taken at King Power and therefore did not even enter my thinking."

Having had an anti-Pearson agenda all this time then, frankly, I don't believe you. The only thing that, in my view, would have given any credence or logic to your position would have been if you were objecting to Shakespeare given his past associations with Pearson - given your well documented stance. Shakespeare might ultimately be a bad call, but there is always an element of risk when appointing any manager.


"I have serious doubts about the ability of the Board Directors with specific football related responsibilities to bridge the gap between their relative parochial Belvoir Drive existence and experience and the drive and international knowhow which is necessary to succeed as a substantial player in the English Premier League and therefore on the European / International stage."

They won the Premier League and got to the QF's of the Champions League when only being promoted from the Championship in 2013/14. You could argue that they were ahead of schedule.


"However he (Ranieri) knew that to continue long term success changes in players, recruitment , player development and structures were necessary."

You could also argue that the Board of Directors also knew that relegation could have put us back years and curtailed any momentum built from the 2015/16 almost instantly.


"So we have a situation that we expect our ambitions and future to lie with an untried and inexperienced manager with no status and credibility coupled with an ex goalie coach /assistant manager."

Untried and inexperienced? Maybe. He certainly has more Premier League experience than the likes of Dyche, Howe and Clement when they first found themselves managers of PL teams - albeit, not as manager. He does remain something of an unknown, but I very much doubt that many people in the game would say that he has no "status or credibility".


We need to think about what sort of manager we want. We are still a million miles away from the likes of Manchester United and Chelsea and you could argue that we need a manager to help us build for the future. A future when we might be able to attract the likes of Conte, Guardiola and Mourinho.

There is a good argument to be had for questioning the appointment of Shakey against our longer term aspirations - I get that. But throwing away your support based on a decision to appoint him is nonsensical.







posted on 24/5/17

People are entitled to stop doing anything at any point.

What I'm wondering is why this was created as a thread for debate (particularly considering the follow up comment basically saying 'I'll do what I want to do' )- at best, it's a blog: expressing a rather mudane/5 month too late (notibly when our form has dipped slightly as oppose to when we were on a near unbeatable run since Shakespeare's appointment) opinion that has been expressed via an unsuitable medium...at worst, it's simply narcissistic ramblings. Like most things in life, I'm guessing it falls somewhere in between.

I wasn't aware supporting Leicester was an option, but maybe this gives some credence to the debate of a difference between a fan of something and a supporter.

I do hope you completely avoid watching/following Leicester at all to at least give your opinion some depth rather than just having a tantrum.

One question (and it is rhetorical; I don't need a 1000 word drivel filled response) - why didn't you post this immediately after Ranieri's sacking and at that point, announce (or just do!) your imminent MIA status from the King Power?

posted on 24/5/17

'People are entitled to stop doing anything at any point'

Apart from breathing... Don't do that. It's silly.

posted on 24/5/17

Slightly surprised and disappointed. I rarely agreed with you JG but this forum will be the lesser for your absence. It would be a pretty boring place if everybody agreed with each other all the time.

It's a pity that you've given up on your season tickets too, a move that may prove to be an overreaction and one you may regret in due course. I can understand your decision better if there is now an element of difficulty in getting to games. It's obviously down to individual choice anyway.

Just curious, we're you born an LCFC supporter or did you come to it later?

posted on 24/5/17

Seem to remember the same thing being said when Pearson got re appointed!

Nothing like a Liar to stir the natives up.

comment by Jobyfox (U4183)

posted on 25/5/17

Incidentally, did anyone else struggle with this article due to the mixed metaphors in the title?
Surely either of these would have been better:
1. The future - more Bury than Barcelona
2. The future – more Megson than Mourinho

Hmmm … perhaps it was just me.

posted on 25/5/17

Whereas the title should be

The Future - more Chelsea than JG

Our club is stabilising in the PL and ready to push on. JG can take his moral high ground and comfort himself with that as he sits in his armchair....

UTF

posted on 25/5/17

Joby, do you not know Mike Grimsby, famous small time manager of many Sunday league teams including Nuneaton and Wealdstone?

posted on 27/5/17

Should fortunes take a tumble then, I look forward to reading about the 'trials and tribulations' of johngrimsby.

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