Not confident, you? Must be bad as long as your within a goal from 1st leg I think you will sneak it
I fancy us to ease through to be honest. We destroyed Dortmund over two legs with a weaker team surely we can beat Hoffenheim under the same scenario.
We are facked if we keep giving away pens
You're stacked well and do score goals for fun upfront...
Though you need confidence and assurance at the back - a commanding GK (who looked shaky on Saturday), and a rejuvenated leading CB.
I think you should be high and dry in leg2 at Anfield
feck that. As I said earlier, if we can't comfortably spank a decidedly average team like Hoffenheim over 2 legs then we don't deserve to be in the CL anyway.
Liverpool are gonna get smashed
comment by ginodepotters (U21367)
posted 1 minute ago
Liverpool are gonna get smashed
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Are you really a Chelsea fan? I'm not sure a real Chelsea fan would have the nerve, the dedication to this constant wumming on every single Liverpool related article after being taken apart at home to Burnley. Surely it can't be?
I'll be cheering Liverpool on
If they lose I'll be happy also, but a highly competitive league and CL from all English clubs makes it a better season.
Except if Liverpool start getting near our perch.
Then I hope they die a slow painful Hodgson-mixed-with-Moyes-style-relegation-season death 💀
comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 11 seconds ago
I'll be cheering Liverpool on
If they lose I'll be happy also, but a highly competitive league and CL from all English clubs makes it a better season.
Except if Liverpool start getting near our perch.
Then I hope they die a slow painful Hodgson-mixed-with-Moyes-style-relegation-season death 💀
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Unless we keep Coutinho and/or sign quality like the two we tried, we won't be getting anywhere near your perch. I still see us doing well in Europe though if we can get through this sticky patch with the two big signings failing and the Coutinho transfer request.
Hoffenheim lost their 2 best players in the summer. Not the same team that shut out so many opponents last season. Would be embarrassing for Liverpool if they don't beat them
comment by 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆�... (U18355)
posted 1 minute ago
Hoffenheim lost their 2 best players in the summer. Not the same team that shut out so many opponents last season. Would be embarrassing for Liverpool if they don't beat them
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It would be embarrassing regardless of that. We were flying last season then fell apart when we had a few players missing in January going out of both cups and falling down the table, we then battled back to edge fourth and then still don't make the CL. That would be devastating to the players who no doubt are already rocked by Coutinho's transfer request.
Do you go into Europa qualifiers when you..... um.. IF you lose?
Not qualifiers we go straight into Europa group stage.
Klopp will set us up well for this..., so a win is likely.
Unless he is wanting to make a point about needing more players as he apparently alluded to yesterday in which case dangling risks to CL qualification in front of the owners might be a more obscure but effective strategy.
comment by 2 years and 2 months to go.. (U20035)
posted 1 minute ago
Klopp will set us up well for this..., so a win is likely.
Unless he is wanting to make a point about needing more players as he apparently alluded to yesterday in which case dangling risks to CL qualification in front of the owners might be a more obscure but effective strategy.
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Wow. Seriously?
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by 2 years and 2 months to go.. (U20035)
posted 1 minute ago
Klopp will set us up well for this..., so a win is likely.
Unless he is wanting to make a point about needing more players as he apparently alluded to yesterday in which case dangling risks to CL qualification in front of the owners might be a more obscure but effective strategy.
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Wow. Seriously?
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Why not, take an evenly balanced game back to Anfield, where our sieve of a defence will likely concede goals, probably ending FSG's already booked line of CL revenue, might be enough.
You can already see the "it's not me, it's with the owners" stance Klopp is taking, implying he too is getting frustrated with the lack of progress and wanting to frame accountability in those terms.
comment by 2 years and 2 months to go.. (U20035)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by 2 years and 2 months to go.. (U20035)
posted 1 minute ago
Klopp will set us up well for this..., so a win is likely.
Unless he is wanting to make a point about needing more players as he apparently alluded to yesterday in which case dangling risks to CL qualification in front of the owners might be a more obscure but effective strategy.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Wow. Seriously?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why not, take an evenly balanced game back to Anfield, where our sieve of a defence will likely concede goals, probably ending FSG's already booked line of CL revenue, might be enough.
You can already see the "it's not me, it's with the owners" stance Klopp is taking, implying he too is getting frustrated with the lack of progress and wanting to frame accountability in those terms.
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Can you? I guess if you try your hardest in order to give yourself justification for finding fault with the owners despite all the evidence to the contrary, you can.
No doubt if Klopp didn't want to sell Coutinho and the owners did, the stance would be that of no ambition. You'd then think that doing the opposite would bring praise but no, that's wrong also.
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by 2 years and 2 months to go.. (U20035)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by 2 years and 2 months to go.. (U20035)
posted 1 minute ago
Klopp will set us up well for this..., so a win is likely.
Unless he is wanting to make a point about needing more players as he apparently alluded to yesterday in which case dangling risks to CL qualification in front of the owners might be a more obscure but effective strategy.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Wow. Seriously?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why not, take an evenly balanced game back to Anfield, where our sieve of a defence will likely concede goals, probably ending FSG's already booked line of CL revenue, might be enough.
You can already see the "it's not me, it's with the owners" stance Klopp is taking, implying he too is getting frustrated with the lack of progress and wanting to frame accountability in those terms.
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Can you? I guess if you try your hardest in order to give yourself justification for finding fault with the owners despite all the evidence to the contrary, you can.
No doubt if Klopp didn't want to sell Coutinho and the owners did, the stance would be that of no ambition. You'd then think that doing the opposite would bring praise but no, that's wrong also.
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Well it is true we're both formulating a position without the corollary evidence. FSG have entered into a transaction with the club during their tenure, benefitting from a significant pecuniary advantage of buying a club at a market low price in a closed bid, and apart from an investment in infrastructure (partial stadium expansion) have not made the investments in players that would be seen as commensurate with our ambitions. Time and time again we've made the right noises in the market, stressed the need to gain CL in order to attract players of the right calibre and each time (barring a few exceptions) something inevitably breaks in the negotiations. Some might way an overt nievity in 'transfer matters and culture' is to blame and it might be, I believe it goes deeper than that.
FSG are no strangers to investing deeply in squads.
Take a look for yourself at their SEC filings in respect of last financial year, a certain Boston club clearly did not suffer from a lack of player transfer activity, at a not inconsiderable cost.
You'd be better off in the Ropey League. Absolutely no chance of winning the CL with that back line and Jordan Henderson as your captain and central midfielder.
Yeah like we had no chance with Biscan and Traore.
comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 40 minutes ago
You'd be better off in the Ropey League. Absolutely no chance of winning the CL with that back line and Jordan Henderson as your captain and central midfielder.
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Idiot.
comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
You'd be better off in the Ropey League. Absolutely no chance of winning the CL with that back line and Jordan Henderson as your captain and central midfielder.
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comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 40 minutes ago
You'd be better off in the Ropey League. Absolutely no chance of winning the CL with that back line and Jordan Henderson as your captain and central midfielder.
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Idiot.
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I think you're doing a disservice to idiots to be fair.
comment by 2 years and 2 months to go.. (U20035)
posted 2 hours, 59 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by 2 years and 2 months to go.. (U20035)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by 2 years and 2 months to go.. (U20035)
posted 1 minute ago
Klopp will set us up well for this..., so a win is likely.
Unless he is wanting to make a point about needing more players as he apparently alluded to yesterday in which case dangling risks to CL qualification in front of the owners might be a more obscure but effective strategy.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Wow. Seriously?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why not, take an evenly balanced game back to Anfield, where our sieve of a defence will likely concede goals, probably ending FSG's already booked line of CL revenue, might be enough.
You can already see the "it's not me, it's with the owners" stance Klopp is taking, implying he too is getting frustrated with the lack of progress and wanting to frame accountability in those terms.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Can you? I guess if you try your hardest in order to give yourself justification for finding fault with the owners despite all the evidence to the contrary, you can.
No doubt if Klopp didn't want to sell Coutinho and the owners did, the stance would be that of no ambition. You'd then think that doing the opposite would bring praise but no, that's wrong also.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well it is true we're both formulating a position without the corollary evidence. FSG have entered into a transaction with the club during their tenure, benefitting from a significant pecuniary advantage of buying a club at a market low price in a closed bid, and apart from an investment in infrastructure (partial stadium expansion) have not made the investments in players that would be seen as commensurate with our ambitions. Time and time again we've made the right noises in the market, stressed the need to gain CL in order to attract players of the right calibre and each time (barring a few exceptions) something inevitably breaks in the negotiations. Some might way an overt nievity in 'transfer matters and culture' is to blame and it might be, I believe it goes deeper than that.
FSG are no strangers to investing deeply in squads.
Take a look for yourself at their SEC filings in respect of last financial year, a certain Boston club clearly did not suffer from a lack of player transfer activity, at a not inconsiderable cost.
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They've spent hundreds of millions. I'm not sure why you think they should be spending more. They are a business, not a rich billionaire with a play thing. They are in it to make money. To do so they have to invest in the squad and the infrastructure and increase global appeal and quality in the squad. Which they've done. I really don't understand the issue.
"Some might way an overt nievity in 'transfer matters and culture' is to blame and it might be, I believe it goes deeper than that"
I believe it goes deeper also. Like players preferring to join other more successful clubs and clubs not wanting to sell the one's we want, even with bids of £70m.
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posted on 13/8/17
Not confident, you? Must be bad as long as your within a goal from 1st leg I think you will sneak it
posted on 13/8/17
I fancy us to ease through to be honest. We destroyed Dortmund over two legs with a weaker team surely we can beat Hoffenheim under the same scenario.
posted on 13/8/17
We are facked if we keep giving away pens
posted on 13/8/17
Sorry freekicks
posted on 13/8/17
You're stacked well and do score goals for fun upfront...
Though you need confidence and assurance at the back - a commanding GK (who looked shaky on Saturday), and a rejuvenated leading CB.
I think you should be high and dry in leg2 at Anfield
posted on 13/8/17
feck that. As I said earlier, if we can't comfortably spank a decidedly average team like Hoffenheim over 2 legs then we don't deserve to be in the CL anyway.
posted on 13/8/17
Liverpool are gonna get smashed
posted on 13/8/17
comment by ginodepotters (U21367)
posted 1 minute ago
Liverpool are gonna get smashed
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Are you really a Chelsea fan? I'm not sure a real Chelsea fan would have the nerve, the dedication to this constant wumming on every single Liverpool related article after being taken apart at home to Burnley. Surely it can't be?
posted on 13/8/17
I'll be cheering Liverpool on
If they lose I'll be happy also, but a highly competitive league and CL from all English clubs makes it a better season.
Except if Liverpool start getting near our perch.
Then I hope they die a slow painful Hodgson-mixed-with-Moyes-style-relegation-season death 💀
posted on 13/8/17
comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 11 seconds ago
I'll be cheering Liverpool on
If they lose I'll be happy also, but a highly competitive league and CL from all English clubs makes it a better season.
Except if Liverpool start getting near our perch.
Then I hope they die a slow painful Hodgson-mixed-with-Moyes-style-relegation-season death 💀
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Unless we keep Coutinho and/or sign quality like the two we tried, we won't be getting anywhere near your perch. I still see us doing well in Europe though if we can get through this sticky patch with the two big signings failing and the Coutinho transfer request.
posted on 13/8/17
Hoffenheim lost their 2 best players in the summer. Not the same team that shut out so many opponents last season. Would be embarrassing for Liverpool if they don't beat them
posted on 13/8/17
comment by 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆�... (U18355)
posted 1 minute ago
Hoffenheim lost their 2 best players in the summer. Not the same team that shut out so many opponents last season. Would be embarrassing for Liverpool if they don't beat them
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It would be embarrassing regardless of that. We were flying last season then fell apart when we had a few players missing in January going out of both cups and falling down the table, we then battled back to edge fourth and then still don't make the CL. That would be devastating to the players who no doubt are already rocked by Coutinho's transfer request.
posted on 14/8/17
Do you go into Europa qualifiers when you..... um.. IF you lose?
posted on 14/8/17
Not qualifiers we go straight into Europa group stage.
posted on 14/8/17
Klopp will set us up well for this..., so a win is likely.
Unless he is wanting to make a point about needing more players as he apparently alluded to yesterday in which case dangling risks to CL qualification in front of the owners might be a more obscure but effective strategy.
posted on 14/8/17
comment by 2 years and 2 months to go.. (U20035)
posted 1 minute ago
Klopp will set us up well for this..., so a win is likely.
Unless he is wanting to make a point about needing more players as he apparently alluded to yesterday in which case dangling risks to CL qualification in front of the owners might be a more obscure but effective strategy.
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Wow. Seriously?
posted on 14/8/17
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by 2 years and 2 months to go.. (U20035)
posted 1 minute ago
Klopp will set us up well for this..., so a win is likely.
Unless he is wanting to make a point about needing more players as he apparently alluded to yesterday in which case dangling risks to CL qualification in front of the owners might be a more obscure but effective strategy.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Wow. Seriously?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why not, take an evenly balanced game back to Anfield, where our sieve of a defence will likely concede goals, probably ending FSG's already booked line of CL revenue, might be enough.
You can already see the "it's not me, it's with the owners" stance Klopp is taking, implying he too is getting frustrated with the lack of progress and wanting to frame accountability in those terms.
posted on 14/8/17
comment by 2 years and 2 months to go.. (U20035)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by 2 years and 2 months to go.. (U20035)
posted 1 minute ago
Klopp will set us up well for this..., so a win is likely.
Unless he is wanting to make a point about needing more players as he apparently alluded to yesterday in which case dangling risks to CL qualification in front of the owners might be a more obscure but effective strategy.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Wow. Seriously?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why not, take an evenly balanced game back to Anfield, where our sieve of a defence will likely concede goals, probably ending FSG's already booked line of CL revenue, might be enough.
You can already see the "it's not me, it's with the owners" stance Klopp is taking, implying he too is getting frustrated with the lack of progress and wanting to frame accountability in those terms.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Can you? I guess if you try your hardest in order to give yourself justification for finding fault with the owners despite all the evidence to the contrary, you can.
No doubt if Klopp didn't want to sell Coutinho and the owners did, the stance would be that of no ambition. You'd then think that doing the opposite would bring praise but no, that's wrong also.
posted on 14/8/17
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by 2 years and 2 months to go.. (U20035)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by 2 years and 2 months to go.. (U20035)
posted 1 minute ago
Klopp will set us up well for this..., so a win is likely.
Unless he is wanting to make a point about needing more players as he apparently alluded to yesterday in which case dangling risks to CL qualification in front of the owners might be a more obscure but effective strategy.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Wow. Seriously?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why not, take an evenly balanced game back to Anfield, where our sieve of a defence will likely concede goals, probably ending FSG's already booked line of CL revenue, might be enough.
You can already see the "it's not me, it's with the owners" stance Klopp is taking, implying he too is getting frustrated with the lack of progress and wanting to frame accountability in those terms.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Can you? I guess if you try your hardest in order to give yourself justification for finding fault with the owners despite all the evidence to the contrary, you can.
No doubt if Klopp didn't want to sell Coutinho and the owners did, the stance would be that of no ambition. You'd then think that doing the opposite would bring praise but no, that's wrong also.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well it is true we're both formulating a position without the corollary evidence. FSG have entered into a transaction with the club during their tenure, benefitting from a significant pecuniary advantage of buying a club at a market low price in a closed bid, and apart from an investment in infrastructure (partial stadium expansion) have not made the investments in players that would be seen as commensurate with our ambitions. Time and time again we've made the right noises in the market, stressed the need to gain CL in order to attract players of the right calibre and each time (barring a few exceptions) something inevitably breaks in the negotiations. Some might way an overt nievity in 'transfer matters and culture' is to blame and it might be, I believe it goes deeper than that.
FSG are no strangers to investing deeply in squads.
Take a look for yourself at their SEC filings in respect of last financial year, a certain Boston club clearly did not suffer from a lack of player transfer activity, at a not inconsiderable cost.
posted on 14/8/17
You'd be better off in the Ropey League. Absolutely no chance of winning the CL with that back line and Jordan Henderson as your captain and central midfielder.
posted on 14/8/17
Yeah like we had no chance with Biscan and Traore.
posted on 14/8/17
comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 40 minutes ago
You'd be better off in the Ropey League. Absolutely no chance of winning the CL with that back line and Jordan Henderson as your captain and central midfielder.
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Idiot.
posted on 14/8/17
comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
You'd be better off in the Ropey League. Absolutely no chance of winning the CL with that back line and Jordan Henderson as your captain and central midfielder.
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posted on 14/8/17
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 40 minutes ago
You'd be better off in the Ropey League. Absolutely no chance of winning the CL with that back line and Jordan Henderson as your captain and central midfielder.
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Idiot.
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I think you're doing a disservice to idiots to be fair.
posted on 14/8/17
comment by 2 years and 2 months to go.. (U20035)
posted 2 hours, 59 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by 2 years and 2 months to go.. (U20035)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by 2 years and 2 months to go.. (U20035)
posted 1 minute ago
Klopp will set us up well for this..., so a win is likely.
Unless he is wanting to make a point about needing more players as he apparently alluded to yesterday in which case dangling risks to CL qualification in front of the owners might be a more obscure but effective strategy.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Wow. Seriously?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why not, take an evenly balanced game back to Anfield, where our sieve of a defence will likely concede goals, probably ending FSG's already booked line of CL revenue, might be enough.
You can already see the "it's not me, it's with the owners" stance Klopp is taking, implying he too is getting frustrated with the lack of progress and wanting to frame accountability in those terms.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Can you? I guess if you try your hardest in order to give yourself justification for finding fault with the owners despite all the evidence to the contrary, you can.
No doubt if Klopp didn't want to sell Coutinho and the owners did, the stance would be that of no ambition. You'd then think that doing the opposite would bring praise but no, that's wrong also.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well it is true we're both formulating a position without the corollary evidence. FSG have entered into a transaction with the club during their tenure, benefitting from a significant pecuniary advantage of buying a club at a market low price in a closed bid, and apart from an investment in infrastructure (partial stadium expansion) have not made the investments in players that would be seen as commensurate with our ambitions. Time and time again we've made the right noises in the market, stressed the need to gain CL in order to attract players of the right calibre and each time (barring a few exceptions) something inevitably breaks in the negotiations. Some might way an overt nievity in 'transfer matters and culture' is to blame and it might be, I believe it goes deeper than that.
FSG are no strangers to investing deeply in squads.
Take a look for yourself at their SEC filings in respect of last financial year, a certain Boston club clearly did not suffer from a lack of player transfer activity, at a not inconsiderable cost.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They've spent hundreds of millions. I'm not sure why you think they should be spending more. They are a business, not a rich billionaire with a play thing. They are in it to make money. To do so they have to invest in the squad and the infrastructure and increase global appeal and quality in the squad. Which they've done. I really don't understand the issue.
"Some might way an overt nievity in 'transfer matters and culture' is to blame and it might be, I believe it goes deeper than that"
I believe it goes deeper also. Like players preferring to join other more successful clubs and clubs not wanting to sell the one's we want, even with bids of £70m.
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