comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 13 minutes ago
Aimed at whom?
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Brighton fans, for obvious reasons.
Storm in a teacup.
While we're at it we must stamp out any comments relating to the ref's parentage, and references to John Terry in any way resembling female genitalia should be avoided, no matter how appropriate.
Scousers must never be referred to as 'bin dippers,' for fear of offending tramps, Scottish players and fans should never be referred to as ' Jocks' ....... clearly racist behaviour, and on no account should West Ham fans ever be called 'irons' in case this is also misinterpreted as homophobia.
Let's all demonstrate how much we're enjoying the spectacle of the game by sitting in absolute silence until the end of the match before offering our appreciation with polite applause. Yes, that will work, and the PC brigade will be in raptures.
Then again we could all take up crown green bowls instead, and wait to die.
Didn't here anything myself at all so it must have been pretty localised.
A shame such a tiny minority can generate headlines like this and damage our reputation.
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If they think that's bad wait till they go to palace away.
That's gonna be far far worse.
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I understand the point Harry and I'm certainly not one for OTT political correctness. But racist and homophobic abuse is surely something we don't need to hear amid the "banter" between rival fans.
I would imagine that some fans would have expressed concern about sanitising the experience of being a football fan back in the eighties. But when I think back to some of the racist abuse that was commonplace in those days it makes me squirm. I can't imagine that anyone would want to return to those days - other than the sort who marched in Charlottesville Virginia recently.
comment by Harrys accountant (U1141)
posted 15 minutes ago
While we're at it we must stamp out any comments relating to the ref's parentage, and references to John Terry in any way resembling female genitalia should be avoided, no matter how appropriate.
Scousers must never be referred to as 'bin dippers,' for fear of offending tramps, Scottish players and fans should never be referred to as ' Jocks' ....... clearly racist behaviour, and on no account should West Ham fans ever be called 'irons' in case this is also misinterpreted as homophobia.
Let's all demonstrate how much we're enjoying the spectacle of the game by sitting in absolute silence until the end of the match before offering our appreciation with polite applause. Yes, that will work, and the PC brigade will be in raptures.
Then again we could all take up crown green bowls instead, and wait to die.
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Bravo Harry
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comment by Harrys accountant (U1141)
posted 59 minutes ago
While we're at it we must stamp out any comments relating to the ref's parentage, and references to John Terry in any way resembling female genitalia should be avoided, no matter how appropriate.
Scousers must never be referred to as 'bin dippers,' for fear of offending tramps, Scottish players and fans should never be referred to as ' Jocks' ....... clearly racist behaviour, and on no account should West Ham fans ever be called 'irons' in case this is also misinterpreted as homophobia.
Let's all demonstrate how much we're enjoying the spectacle of the game by sitting in absolute silence until the end of the match before offering our appreciation with polite applause. Yes, that will work, and the PC brigade will be in raptures.
Then again we could all take up crown green bowls instead, and wait to die.
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It's not PC to not be homophobic. Is that too hard for someone like you? Pathetic comment.
comment by West London Express (U5874)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by Harrys accountant (U1141)
posted 15 minutes ago
While we're at it we must stamp out any comments relating to the ref's parentage, and references to John Terry in any way resembling female genitalia should be avoided, no matter how appropriate.
Scousers must never be referred to as 'bin dippers,' for fear of offending tramps, Scottish players and fans should never be referred to as ' Jocks' ....... clearly racist behaviour, and on no account should West Ham fans ever be called 'irons' in case this is also misinterpreted as homophobia.
Let's all demonstrate how much we're enjoying the spectacle of the game by sitting in absolute silence until the end of the match before offering our appreciation with polite applause. Yes, that will work, and the PC brigade will be in raptures.
Then again we could all take up crown green bowls instead, and wait to die.
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Bravo Harry
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Are we condoning homophobic chants? I must've missed the memo that told us this was acceptable
Applause? Are you some kind of bigot m8?
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What a barrel of laughs you are!
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I didn't hear anything either. However this has been fairly well reported recently around Brighton fans and something they've suffered.
I'm also all for banter. I think it's something that is very special about football. Comedy is often on the edge as well, and I wouldn't have it any other way.
But when something is hurtful to someone or another group, and it isn't funny. Well, it has no place in football. Like homophobic chats.
Everyone welcome at the king power, except those not willing to accept everyone else.
Enjoy the Prem Brighton 👍
Apparantly we're just a town full of pak*s too
I am upset by homophobic chanting.
If you decide that first sentence makes me look like a dweeb, you can understand why many people would just stand there and say nothing rather than speak out against it.
I wouldn't deny that some jokes along those lines can be funny, but that's not an excuse for all homophobia not to be treated as severely as racism in the terraces. Perspectives are changing, and neither is acceptable any more. anyone who fights against that will ultimately just get left behind.
Firstly, I must say, I think I've read in the build up to this game articles about the plight of Brighton fans with regard to this and perhaps therefore there is a bit of propaganda involved in terms of the next game (at the KP) being the limelight and therefore even a 'minority' being used as an example. However, I don't cringe with it being at out stadium as it provided us, as a club, the opportunity to act and denounce it.
The most worrying thing for me is opinions, already aired in this particular thread as well, that it is either 'sit in silence and be boring' or 'have banter' <ergo : be offensive> (paraphrasing here). Why can't there be any other option or in between.
Participating in homophobic chants is homophobic. There isn't an argument that it isn't. Sure, argue that society shouldn't deem it so, but we (society) have. One, if people are happy to class it as banter, they should be happy to say to their employers, friends, family, children - from a social perspective I am classed as a homophobic, bigot, racist, etc. But this will rarely happen because people who engage in this are often caught up in mob culture and therefore disassociate themselves from it in their 'real life' away from football.
Secondly, to those who think it is banter - imagine something that you would find really offensive, hurtful, over the top, etc to hear. That is how some people may feel who you are 'bantering' with. If you are someone who can not think of anything that would hurt you and cannot empathise with those recipients of such chants - fine, although you may be a sociopath, you at least, from a personal rather than social perspective, have a point or at least stance regarding freedom of speech and the fact nothing is personal. If you are someone who may be deeply hurt by something...simply stop.
This may sound patronising and like I am addressing children - and that's because I do address children, as a teacher, with a slightly watered down version of this rhetoric. The difference? Children are CHILDREN!
Ps - DM is correct. To those hanging on to the 'old days', times are changing: people will still go to the football, let some bad language slip, have a beer, shout, cheer, stand up and be told to sit down (sorry :/), but we are refusing to accept that 'racism, homophobia, xenophobia, etc is all part of this culture. It isn't. Evolve or eventually be the old man in the corner who thinks he is 'bantering pre-match' but is simply making everyone else feel uncomfortable.
Sitting opposite i heard it and thought here we go again but the Brighton fans responce nailed and stopped the chanting ..."your not good looking enough to be gay".
It like the the your just a town of P..... which as most of Asia's community is from India Gujerat specifically just shows they don't know nothing.
Take the mick out or City etc but not the people now must remember not to leave my car around the ground when Liverpool come.
To be fair, Leicester is an absolute sh1thole.
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posted on 21/8/17
Aimed at whom?
posted on 21/8/17
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 13 minutes ago
Aimed at whom?
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Brighton fans, for obvious reasons.
Storm in a teacup.
posted on 21/8/17
While we're at it we must stamp out any comments relating to the ref's parentage, and references to John Terry in any way resembling female genitalia should be avoided, no matter how appropriate.
Scousers must never be referred to as 'bin dippers,' for fear of offending tramps, Scottish players and fans should never be referred to as ' Jocks' ....... clearly racist behaviour, and on no account should West Ham fans ever be called 'irons' in case this is also misinterpreted as homophobia.
Let's all demonstrate how much we're enjoying the spectacle of the game by sitting in absolute silence until the end of the match before offering our appreciation with polite applause. Yes, that will work, and the PC brigade will be in raptures.
Then again we could all take up crown green bowls instead, and wait to die.
posted on 21/8/17
Didn't here anything myself at all so it must have been pretty localised.
A shame such a tiny minority can generate headlines like this and damage our reputation.
posted on 21/8/17
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posted on 21/8/17
If they think that's bad wait till they go to palace away.
That's gonna be far far worse.
posted on 21/8/17
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 21/8/17
I understand the point Harry and I'm certainly not one for OTT political correctness. But racist and homophobic abuse is surely something we don't need to hear amid the "banter" between rival fans.
I would imagine that some fans would have expressed concern about sanitising the experience of being a football fan back in the eighties. But when I think back to some of the racist abuse that was commonplace in those days it makes me squirm. I can't imagine that anyone would want to return to those days - other than the sort who marched in Charlottesville Virginia recently.
posted on 21/8/17
comment by Harrys accountant (U1141)
posted 15 minutes ago
While we're at it we must stamp out any comments relating to the ref's parentage, and references to John Terry in any way resembling female genitalia should be avoided, no matter how appropriate.
Scousers must never be referred to as 'bin dippers,' for fear of offending tramps, Scottish players and fans should never be referred to as ' Jocks' ....... clearly racist behaviour, and on no account should West Ham fans ever be called 'irons' in case this is also misinterpreted as homophobia.
Let's all demonstrate how much we're enjoying the spectacle of the game by sitting in absolute silence until the end of the match before offering our appreciation with polite applause. Yes, that will work, and the PC brigade will be in raptures.
Then again we could all take up crown green bowls instead, and wait to die.
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Bravo Harry
posted on 21/8/17
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 21/8/17
comment by Harrys accountant (U1141)
posted 59 minutes ago
While we're at it we must stamp out any comments relating to the ref's parentage, and references to John Terry in any way resembling female genitalia should be avoided, no matter how appropriate.
Scousers must never be referred to as 'bin dippers,' for fear of offending tramps, Scottish players and fans should never be referred to as ' Jocks' ....... clearly racist behaviour, and on no account should West Ham fans ever be called 'irons' in case this is also misinterpreted as homophobia.
Let's all demonstrate how much we're enjoying the spectacle of the game by sitting in absolute silence until the end of the match before offering our appreciation with polite applause. Yes, that will work, and the PC brigade will be in raptures.
Then again we could all take up crown green bowls instead, and wait to die.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's not PC to not be homophobic. Is that too hard for someone like you? Pathetic comment.
posted on 21/8/17
comment by West London Express (U5874)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by Harrys accountant (U1141)
posted 15 minutes ago
While we're at it we must stamp out any comments relating to the ref's parentage, and references to John Terry in any way resembling female genitalia should be avoided, no matter how appropriate.
Scousers must never be referred to as 'bin dippers,' for fear of offending tramps, Scottish players and fans should never be referred to as ' Jocks' ....... clearly racist behaviour, and on no account should West Ham fans ever be called 'irons' in case this is also misinterpreted as homophobia.
Let's all demonstrate how much we're enjoying the spectacle of the game by sitting in absolute silence until the end of the match before offering our appreciation with polite applause. Yes, that will work, and the PC brigade will be in raptures.
Then again we could all take up crown green bowls instead, and wait to die.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Bravo Harry
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Are we condoning homophobic chants? I must've missed the memo that told us this was acceptable
posted on 21/8/17
Applause? Are you some kind of bigot m8?
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What a barrel of laughs you are!
posted on 21/8/17
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posted on 22/8/17
I didn't hear anything either. However this has been fairly well reported recently around Brighton fans and something they've suffered.
I'm also all for banter. I think it's something that is very special about football. Comedy is often on the edge as well, and I wouldn't have it any other way.
But when something is hurtful to someone or another group, and it isn't funny. Well, it has no place in football. Like homophobic chats.
Everyone welcome at the king power, except those not willing to accept everyone else.
Enjoy the Prem Brighton 👍
posted on 22/8/17
Apparantly we're just a town full of pak*s too
posted on 22/8/17
I am upset by homophobic chanting.
If you decide that first sentence makes me look like a dweeb, you can understand why many people would just stand there and say nothing rather than speak out against it.
I wouldn't deny that some jokes along those lines can be funny, but that's not an excuse for all homophobia not to be treated as severely as racism in the terraces. Perspectives are changing, and neither is acceptable any more. anyone who fights against that will ultimately just get left behind.
posted on 22/8/17
Firstly, I must say, I think I've read in the build up to this game articles about the plight of Brighton fans with regard to this and perhaps therefore there is a bit of propaganda involved in terms of the next game (at the KP) being the limelight and therefore even a 'minority' being used as an example. However, I don't cringe with it being at out stadium as it provided us, as a club, the opportunity to act and denounce it.
The most worrying thing for me is opinions, already aired in this particular thread as well, that it is either 'sit in silence and be boring' or 'have banter' <ergo : be offensive> (paraphrasing here). Why can't there be any other option or in between.
Participating in homophobic chants is homophobic. There isn't an argument that it isn't. Sure, argue that society shouldn't deem it so, but we (society) have. One, if people are happy to class it as banter, they should be happy to say to their employers, friends, family, children - from a social perspective I am classed as a homophobic, bigot, racist, etc. But this will rarely happen because people who engage in this are often caught up in mob culture and therefore disassociate themselves from it in their 'real life' away from football.
Secondly, to those who think it is banter - imagine something that you would find really offensive, hurtful, over the top, etc to hear. That is how some people may feel who you are 'bantering' with. If you are someone who can not think of anything that would hurt you and cannot empathise with those recipients of such chants - fine, although you may be a sociopath, you at least, from a personal rather than social perspective, have a point or at least stance regarding freedom of speech and the fact nothing is personal. If you are someone who may be deeply hurt by something...simply stop.
This may sound patronising and like I am addressing children - and that's because I do address children, as a teacher, with a slightly watered down version of this rhetoric. The difference? Children are CHILDREN!
posted on 22/8/17
Ps - DM is correct. To those hanging on to the 'old days', times are changing: people will still go to the football, let some bad language slip, have a beer, shout, cheer, stand up and be told to sit down (sorry :/), but we are refusing to accept that 'racism, homophobia, xenophobia, etc is all part of this culture. It isn't. Evolve or eventually be the old man in the corner who thinks he is 'bantering pre-match' but is simply making everyone else feel uncomfortable.
posted on 22/8/17
Sitting opposite i heard it and thought here we go again but the Brighton fans responce nailed and stopped the chanting ..."your not good looking enough to be gay".
It like the the your just a town of P..... which as most of Asia's community is from India Gujerat specifically just shows they don't know nothing.
Take the mick out or City etc but not the people now must remember not to leave my car around the ground when Liverpool come.
posted on 22/8/17
She said "No" Ched....
posted on 24/8/17
To be fair, Leicester is an absolute sh1thole.
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