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comment by JFDI (U1657)

posted on 23/8/17

I'm surprised vthevover all record is so close Sandy, I thought we may be trailing. It does illustrate just how good our recent record is against you. I believe that Sunday was our 49th or 50th meeting in the premier league of which you have won 5, mind you o got this statement from talk sport so who knows.

posted on 23/8/17

comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by CFC: FFP Champions (U20729)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 6 minutes ago
As a long time Spurs supporter of 60 plus years, sure the Chelsea game is a big London Derby, but it don`t come anywhere near the match with the North London Derby with Arsenal, even though Arsenal do actually come from South of the River. Just my opinion mind you.
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No Chelsea fan would contest that.

NLD is much bigger game around the world.

Spurs fans care about Chelsea a bit more now because of us owning you since 87 at Three Point Lane.

Owning since 90 at the Three Point Bridge

And now owning you at Three Point Wembley

Also, the success RA has bought, and our displacement of Spurs as London's second biggest club creates further resentment


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Just to add a bit of balance to the results in this fixture, and all this 3 point WHL and 3 point Wembley nonsense.

Of the 192 games played
Spurs 69 wins
Draws 46
Chelsea 77

Chelsea edge overall, but not overwhelmingly


Spurs home versus Chelsea
Spurs 37 wins
Draws 25
Chelsea 30 wins

So not really 3 point WHL as Spurs have more wins


Spurs away to Chelsea
Spurs wins 30
Draws 21
Chelsea 44

Chelsea more wins, although Spurs have won as many times at Stamford Bridge as Chelsea have at WHL, so shall we call it 3 point Bridge. Just a thought.

Wembley
Spurs 2 wins
Chelsea 3 wins

Overall, when you analyse the full picture, not that much difference in records home and away.



Long may the rivalry continue.
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Since the three point rule was introduced to the top tier, our record at 3PL is:

15 wins and 6 defeats.

And within that you did not beat us at the 3PL from 1987 to 2006, so I think that is where the Three Point Lane expression comes from.

posted on 23/8/17

comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 31 minutes ago
I'm surprised vthevover all record is so close Sandy, I thought we may be trailing. It does illustrate just how good our recent record is against you. I believe that Sunday was our 49th or 50th meeting in the premier league of which you have won 5, mind you o got this statement from talk sport so who knows.
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I have to admit Spurs record against Chelsea past 25 years has been pretty dismal, but as the overall records show Chelsea must themselves had a pretty shocking record against Spurs prior to the past 25 years or so. Spurs record at Stamford Bridge is very, very poor last 30 years, and to think Spurs have actually won 30 games at Stamford Bridge prior to the bad run. Things have a way of evening themselves up.

Mind you nothing compared to Spurs shocking record at Anfield, where I can only remember Spurs winning perhaps three or four games in 100 years.

posted on 23/8/17

Mind you nothing compared to Spurs shocking record at Anfield, where I can only remember Spurs winning perhaps three or four games in 100 years.
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Ironically during the same period Sandy our record at Anfield was always equally atrocious. Although we have fared a bit better there in recent times.

Spurs and Chelsea were two Clubs that I always noticed out of the London ones that always had decades of failure at Anfield, such as our 1970 Cup Winning team getting mullered 4-1 the opening day of that season there and Spurs having a 7-0 reverse in 1978 (if memory serves).

Arsenal however used to fare better up there I believe, but for the rest of London it used to seem to be a graveyard.

Good to see you posting again Sandy on general matters, will you be resuming your wumming duties or have you retired from that?

posted on 23/8/17

'Pity' is a strong & emotive word....as is hate..

But it works where $pudders are concerned...& yes...I know you shouldn't pick on the little clubs...but there it is

posted on 23/8/17

comment by Chelsea_since_summer_1969 ✯ (U1561)
posted 38 minutes ago
Mind you nothing compared to Spurs shocking record at Anfield, where I can only remember Spurs winning perhaps three or four games in 100 years.
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Ironically during the same period Sandy our record at Anfield was always equally atrocious. Although we have fared a bit better there in recent times.

Spurs and Chelsea were two Clubs that I always noticed out of the London ones that always had decades of failure at Anfield, such as our 1970 Cup Winning team getting mullered 4-1 the opening day of that season there and Spurs having a 7-0 reverse in 1978 (if memory serves).

Arsenal however used to fare better up there I believe, but for the rest of London it used to seem to be a graveyard.

Good to see you posting again Sandy on general matters, will you be resuming your wumming duties or have you retired from that?
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Summer 1969, no I am retired from all the wind-ups, although I may participate in a bit of general banter. Even I was finding it pretty tiresome. I want to stick to the footie bit, and will happily chat to any supporter from any club that wants to chat yesteryear, rather than just the modern day stuff.

posted on 23/8/17

Fair enough mate.

comment by JFDI (U1657)

posted on 23/8/17

Good to hear Sandy. Don't get sucked into the wind ups, at least not all of them, it's okay now and again of course but as you found out it can be tiresome, boring as well.

posted on 23/8/17

comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 3 hours, 3 minutes ago
comment by Chelsea_since_summer_1969 ✯ (U1561)
posted 38 minutes ago
Mind you nothing compared to Spurs shocking record at Anfield, where I can only remember Spurs winning perhaps three or four games in 100 years.
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Ironically during the same period Sandy our record at Anfield was always equally atrocious. Although we have fared a bit better there in recent times.

Spurs and Chelsea were two Clubs that I always noticed out of the London ones that always had decades of failure at Anfield, such as our 1970 Cup Winning team getting mullered 4-1 the opening day of that season there and Spurs having a 7-0 reverse in 1978 (if memory serves).

Arsenal however used to fare better up there I believe, but for the rest of London it used to seem to be a graveyard.

Good to see you posting again Sandy on general matters, will you be resuming your wumming duties or have you retired from that?
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Summer 1969, no I am retired from all the wind-ups, although I may participate in a bit of general banter. Even I was finding it pretty tiresome. I want to stick to the footie bit, and will happily chat to any supporter from any club that wants to chat yesteryear, rather than just the modern day stuff.
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You have a great historical knowledge of football, Sandy.

Good you can share it with us. Please continue.

On current footballing matters, we will probably disagree!!

What's the most away fans you have ever seen at the Lane?

comment by Devil (U6522)

posted on 23/8/17

I've never hated Spurs as a club, I've always quite liked them in fact. They remind me of the Chelsea I grew up on in the late 90's/early 2000's, and as of last year managed to go to that next level we couldn't until 2003. Their fans can be hard to deal with sometimes but they honesty have put up with a ton of frustration for a very long time - it's understandable.

I could see why we irritate them certainly, no matter what the state of both clubs at any given time since I've been a fan of football we just have a nack of beating them when it counts. The only exception I can think of is the League Cup Final when Grant was our manager.

posted on 23/8/17

I think Hasselbaink's Anfield winner in 2003 was our first there for nearly 80 year's or something equally horrendous. I don't think Liverpool's record at The Bridge is anything to shout about either.

Away form in Chelsea vs Liverpool clashes from both ends has vastly improved since Roman's takeover.

posted on 23/8/17

Chelsea won at Anfield in the League in 1935. The next League win for us there was 1992.

I knew it was bad but that's the official stats. It makes the Chelsea v Spurs record at the Bridge since 1990 look like a juvenile.

posted on 23/8/17

Im sure the 92 win was in the cup, i actually think the league barron run was 35 to 03 which is mental.

We have been making up for it since though.

posted on 23/8/17

No 92 was in the League (remember it well with Wise and Vinny scoring) but we did have an FA Cup win there in 1966. The link is here.

https://www.11v11.com/teams/liverpool/tab/opposingTeams/opposition/Chelsea/

posted on 23/8/17

Ive literally just checked the same site haha but my bad 92 was the league, i was born in 1989 so only really started remembering stuff around 94/95.

One of my earliest memories was Mark Hughes's winner vs Arsenal, little did i know i was going to have to wait until i left school until we beat them in the league again

posted on 23/8/17

Wasn't that the game when Spackman punched Keown and got sent off?

posted on 23/8/17

Haha, i think so.

posted on 24/8/17

comment by Chelsea_since_summer_1969 ✯ (U1561)
posted 7 hours, 23 minutes ago
Chelsea won at Anfield in the League in 1935. The next League win for us there was 1992.

I knew it was bad but that's the official stats. It makes the Chelsea v Spurs record at the Bridge since 1990 look like a juvenile.
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Summer, Spurs won at Anfield in 1912 and then didn't win there again until I think 1985, when Garth Crooks scored the only goal. 73 years!!!!!!!!

posted on 24/8/17

comment by CFC: FFP Champions (U20729)
posted 8 hours, 43 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 3 hours, 3 minutes ago
comment by Chelsea_since_summer_1969 ✯ (U1561)
posted 38 minutes ago
Mind you nothing compared to Spurs shocking record at Anfield, where I can only remember Spurs winning perhaps three or four games in 100 years.
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Ironically during the same period Sandy our record at Anfield was always equally atrocious. Although we have fared a bit better there in recent times.

Spurs and Chelsea were two Clubs that I always noticed out of the London ones that always had decades of failure at Anfield, such as our 1970 Cup Winning team getting mullered 4-1 the opening day of that season there and Spurs having a 7-0 reverse in 1978 (if memory serves).

Arsenal however used to fare better up there I believe, but for the rest of London it used to seem to be a graveyard.

Good to see you posting again Sandy on general matters, will you be resuming your wumming duties or have you retired from that?
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Summer 1969, no I am retired from all the wind-ups, although I may participate in a bit of general banter. Even I was finding it pretty tiresome. I want to stick to the footie bit, and will happily chat to any supporter from any club that wants to chat yesteryear, rather than just the modern day stuff.
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You have a great historical knowledge of football, Sandy.

Good you can share it with us. Please continue.

On current footballing matters, we will probably disagree!!

What's the most away fans you have ever seen at the Lane?
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CFP, bit hard to say really what the largest number of away supporters at WHL was, as back in the day as you know there was no segregation, and I have been there when the crowds were from 65,000+, I guess it would probably be against Arsenal. I remember being at the Sunderland cup game in 1961, where there seemed to be lots of Sunderland fans all around the ground.

posted on 24/8/17

Sandy, yeah I knew Spurs had experienced the same long-running problems that we had at Anfield.

posted on 24/8/17

comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 3 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by CFC: FFP Champions (U20729)
posted 8 hours, 43 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 3 hours, 3 minutes ago
comment by Chelsea_since_summer_1969 ✯ (U1561)
posted 38 minutes ago
Mind you nothing compared to Spurs shocking record at Anfield, where I can only remember Spurs winning perhaps three or four games in 100 years.
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Ironically during the same period Sandy our record at Anfield was always equally atrocious. Although we have fared a bit better there in recent times.

Spurs and Chelsea were two Clubs that I always noticed out of the London ones that always had decades of failure at Anfield, such as our 1970 Cup Winning team getting mullered 4-1 the opening day of that season there and Spurs having a 7-0 reverse in 1978 (if memory serves).

Arsenal however used to fare better up there I believe, but for the rest of London it used to seem to be a graveyard.

Good to see you posting again Sandy on general matters, will you be resuming your wumming duties or have you retired from that?
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Summer 1969, no I am retired from all the wind-ups, although I may participate in a bit of general banter. Even I was finding it pretty tiresome. I want to stick to the footie bit, and will happily chat to any supporter from any club that wants to chat yesteryear, rather than just the modern day stuff.
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You have a great historical knowledge of football, Sandy.

Good you can share it with us. Please continue.

On current footballing matters, we will probably disagree!!

What's the most away fans you have ever seen at the Lane?
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CFP, bit hard to say really what the largest number of away supporters at WHL was, as back in the day as you know there was no segregation, and I have been there when the crowds were from 65,000+, I guess it would probably be against Arsenal. I remember being at the Sunderland cup game in 1961, where there seemed to be lots of Sunderland fans all around the ground.
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Cheers Sandy. You guys turned out in force at ours in 79 and 82

posted on 24/8/17

comment by Chelsea_since_summer_1969 ✯ (U1561)
posted 31 minutes ago
Sandy, yeah I knew Spurs had experienced the same long-running problems that we had at Anfield.
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As did most away fans. Old bill always giving us grief. Bouncers. Fans. Scallies. We stupidly went to Quadrant Park in late 80s raving after a match, Wasn't exactly peace and love!!!

posted on 24/8/17

This was not my expectation of this article But it is a great conversation guys well done.

I remember going to anfield in the 90s and just being filled with dread, even when we were the better team, they'd get a late pen, or a last minute winner or something.

Remember patrick berger scoring a hat trick against us.

It's why I was seething when they scored a late equaliser there a few years back after eden had one of his best games for us and tore them apart.
Because a win up there is such a rare feat.

posted on 24/8/17

i'll also never forget gudjohnsens miss there during the ghost goal game, right at the end, we dominated that match and just couldn't get the goal. Carragher even speaks of it, how they won that game was a miracle.

posted on 24/8/17

Sorry for the off-topic reminiscing Nick, we just get carried away at times.

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